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B&W 685 vs. Nola Boxer Bookshelf Speakers

 

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Username: Mordecai

Fort Worth, Texas

Post Number: 489
Registered: Jan-09
I'm demoing a pair of B&W 685's. I wanted to compare them to my Nola's. I was curious about the sound of an aluminum tweeter comparied to a soft dome. They need to be run in for about 30 hours. We'll see who wins the shootout. Both are well reveiwed and highly recommended in their price range.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 15486
Registered: Feb-05
Mordecai, those Nola's are one of the best speakers in the world at their price and their price is more than double the B&W. You have fantastic speakers. Even if you like the B&W's keep them both...you'll be sorry if you don't. We could have used you feedback at AK where a fella was trying to decide what contemporary speakers he should buy...here is a link just in case you feel like contributing.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=426869

He just bought the Boxer's so perhaps you could share your experience with them so far.
 

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Username: Mordecai

Fort Worth, Texas

Post Number: 490
Registered: Jan-09
Art, I'm just trying them out. I don't have any intentions of keeping them, but I was curious. I can keep them for 45 days then renturn them to Best Buy. I do understand what I have with the Nola's.

I will hop over to Audiokarma.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 15488
Registered: Feb-05
Thanks, Mord. Just saw your post over at AK. MWalt is a nice fella and I'm sure he will appreciate the feedback.
 

Gold Member
Username: Dmitchell

Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 4943
Registered: Feb-07
You can buy B&W speakers at Best Buy? Man, what is the world coming to?
 

Platinum Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 15500
Registered: Feb-05
Yep, the 600 series has been available for a while at Best Buy...not a bad thing really. Perhaps more folks will become familar with good sound....nah...
 

Gold Member
Username: Dmitchell

Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 4944
Registered: Feb-07
In my experience, the people that shop at BB are not the least bit interested in good sound, only in getting the cheapest sh!t possible.
 

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Username: Mordecai

Fort Worth, Texas

Post Number: 491
Registered: Jan-09
In my experience, the people that shop at BB are not the least bit interested in good sound, only in getting the cheapest sh!t possible.

That would be me David lol.}
 

Gold Member
Username: Superjazzyjames

Post Number: 1804
Registered: Oct-10
Yes Dave, BB sells B&W now. Some of us who shop there DO care about good sound. The problem is that the only other store in my area that sells audio doesn't sell everything I want. I buy what I can from the other store since it's an independent dealer and their sales staff cares about customer satisfaction. BB somehow manages (believe it or not) to pick up where the other store leaves off. The trick is to know more than BB employees (which isn't hard at all) and politely ignore what they say (pretend you're listening to them) while exploring their merchandise. They're very helpful when you do that. They think they sold you something while you walk out with what you picked out on your own. WIN, WIN!
 

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Username: Dmitchell

Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 4946
Registered: Feb-07
Yeah, my response (as usual) was mostly tongue-in-cheek.

I think it actually is a good thing if the unknowing masses get exposed to stuff other than the utter crap that they usualyl sell at big-box stores.

Here in Canada, we have 2 leading big-box stores: Best Buy and Future Shop. FS is actually owned by BB, and caters to the more "savvy" electronics buyer (hilarious). BB is the bottom rung, and mostly just sells junk.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 15501
Registered: Feb-05
I'm actually considering the 685 or Epos Epic 2 for the living room. It's my "summer listening in the back yard with my windows open" system. One of those 2 speakers would replace the Wharfedale Diamond 9.1's in that setup...that is if they could unseat my Pinnacle AC650's for the summer duty.
 

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Username: Mordecai

Fort Worth, Texas

Post Number: 492
Registered: Jan-09
I like what I'm hearing so far. They are easy to listen too. That said, they are not better than the Nola's. I have put about 30 hours on them so they might open further with more time. The aluminum tweeter isn't has bright or forward as I expected. The detail isn't as good as the Nola's and they are not as airy. I could live with them though. They are a good value.

It is really sad that a metro area the size of Dallas/Fort Worth doesn't have any high fidelity stores. Most of the stores around here are primarily home theater driven. Sadly, I had to buy these to listen to them. I have 45 days to return them however. The guy in The Magnolia store doesn;t think i'll return them. Of course he's never heard of any brand outside of what they sell. I told them they are up against some really speakers.
 

Gold Member
Username: Illuminator

USA

Post Number: 5626
Registered: Apr-05
I had the 685's at one point, gently used and broken in (which I don't believe in, but since some believe in it, I'll mention it anyway ).

Was not a huge fan of them. Though they were good. The midrange was rather good and guitar strings sounded quite detailed, but they seemed a bit warm/flavored. Still a great speaker, though I'd argue the slightly smaller 686 is a better deal overall as they're quite a bit cheaper and sound almost nearly as good as the 685's.

And yeah Best Buy carries the 600 and CM series as well as a few others like the MM1's--all are made in China. I was fortunate to get one of the last CM1 models that were made in England with the rare maple finish. Although I can't speak to the longevity of the new made-in-China B&W speakers, they seemed to be built well and ostensibly live up to B&W's desire to keep production standards just as high as over in England. Still a disappointment to see such a high quality manufacturer move some of its production over to China and even into Best Buy. But as mentioned, I agree that it spreads the B&W image to a wider audience, as well as fit B&W's new marketing strategy since boutique shops are slowly dissipating.

One thing I will always love about B&W speakers is the resale value. Although incredible speakers, brands such as Mission, Dynaudio etc. lose value quickly and must be sold in a niche community for the most return (AudiogoN). B&W speakers can be put up on ebay and sell easily at high prices. I'm shocked to see how much B&W speakers from the 80's and 90's still sell for, such as the CDM series.
 

Gold Member
Username: Dmitchell

Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 4947
Registered: Feb-07
I agree, they are pretty warm sounding speakers. Pair them up with the right amp, and they sound great. My 840A is a good match with them.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 15515
Registered: Feb-05
Wonder how the B&W's stack up against the Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 or 10.2.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 15518
Registered: Feb-05
David, do you have your speakers bi wired or single wired and to which terminals?

I'm giving the 685's serious consideration for the living room.
 

Gold Member
Username: Dmitchell

Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 4950
Registered: Feb-07
Just single wired. But as usual, with all my speakers, I ditch the cheap brass jumpers and use 10 or 12 AWG speaker cable for jumpers.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 15520
Registered: Feb-05
To which terminals?

One review I read stated that they sound better single wired...interesting as I have experienced that with a couple of others as well.
 

Gold Member
Username: Dmitchell

Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 4951
Registered: Feb-07
I can't recall. Most likely the bottom ones?
 

Platinum Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 15534
Registered: Feb-05
Think I'm going to go with Wharfedale Diamond 10.1's and the matching center and save a few bucks. Put that money aside for that statement speaker somewhere down the line.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mordecai

Fort Worth, Texas

Post Number: 502
Registered: Jan-09
The 685's go back tomorrow. I listened to them for two weeks. They have about 30 hours on them. I just put the Nola's on the standmounts and all I can say is wow! Art, you were right. There really is no comparison. The Nola's are better in every category. I found myself this week missing their sound. I planned on keeping the 685's for a month. I learned that I already have high end speakers. No need to look further. Besides, i'll never spend the money to move up dramatically in sound quality. Damn! The Nola's sound so much bigger then the 685's. This is exactly why I wanted to listen to different speakers.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 15549
Registered: Feb-05
I had an extensive listen to the Nola Boxer's yesterday, Mord. They do sound very good and for what you paid for your mini's they are a steal.

I did hear a speaker that made me p my pants however. Just unreal and absolutely creamed the Nola's. Sounded just as big and with more of everything good with none of the weaknesses of the Nola's.

The PMC TB2i Signature...awesome baby!
 

New member
Username: Honeymonster

Post Number: 3
Registered: Mar-12
I agree the B&W 685 speakers are great sounding standmounts, and their top end does not aggravate the slightly harsh tone of budget electronics which is really important in my systemhttp://www.hifigear.co.uk/b-w-685-stereo-loudspeakers.html
 

Platinum Member
Username: Glasswolf

Columbia, South Carolina America

Post Number: 14670
Registered: Dec-03
BB (Magnolia stores) carry some very good gear. Samsung top of the line televisions (8000/9000 series), Onkyo's flagship AVRs (ie, TX-NR5009), B&W and MartinLogan electrostatics.

I actually used Magnolia to see the NR5009 in person prior to purchasing one, and nearly went to them for my 8000 series Samsung plasma.

Breaking in the speaker mainly loosens up the spider on the drivers. Once that's done, which you can do in a day or two at moderate volume playing continuously, give them a comparison.

As for BB returns, you have 30 days from point of purchase. After that, it's hit or miss if you'll have any luck returning anything. They have gotten very prickly lately about sticking to the letter of the law on returns now.
 

Gold Member
Username: Magfan

USA

Post Number: 2768
Registered: Oct-07
Yeah, and people buying a TV a week before superbowl and returning it on Monday probably didn't help.

I think the crossover caps need as much 'forming' as the spider does flexing. At least the caps worked that way on my panels.....
 

Gold Member
Username: Dmitchell

Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 4962
Registered: Feb-07
I'm still diggin' the 685's in my system, even after almost 6 months, which may actually be a record for me.

But I do have a pair of LSA-1's coming in to try out.
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