I accidentally posted this on a thread, sorry for the double-up. I intended to start my own thread with details in title.
I have been reading these posts for quite a while, and am debating on getting a CD player. I have NEVER REALLY OWNED ONE. I just play CD's on my $40 Best Buy DVD player.
I have Pioneer MS2 and CX2 amp and preamp, and KLIPSCH RF5 speakers. I use Monster Cable (big) for the speakers, and $100 super big Monster Cable between amp and preamp.
I was thinking of spending $1200 for a CD player. At this price point (please no higher, maybe $50 over), what would some good options be? I can head to stereo stores to listen, but if I don't have an idea of what I'm looking at, I'll be intimidated out of even starting to compare.
PS a big issue here -- do you think a $1200 CD player would be wasted on my system? My concern is that the signal will be better than my system can reproduce, and my money would be spent on too good a CD player. Thanks, Ricker
I read STEREO REVIEW on the APOLLO and think that looks great. $1200 on the nose, too. Not to stray too much from the original topic, but if I burnt mp3s to play on this REGA, what bitrate should I use for best sound quality? Is 256 enough? That would be a great way to play longer while cooking etc.
Not to stray, as I said -- my biggest concern is high quality CD sound for my system, period. The MP3 deal is just an afterthought. If I wanted low quality MP3 sound, I wouldn't want a $1200 CD player. :-)
NAD C542 is $500. Rega Apollo is $1200. Am I going to hear an improvement on my system if I buy the Apollo vs. the NAD? I might hear a difference on the store's equipment, but how about on my quality of amplification and speakers? Thank you!!!
Hey Rick- I would think you would hear a difference. Bring them both home and see what you think. Return the loser. Think about where your system is going to be in the future. Have a plan. If the Apollo fits this plan then it is well worth the extra 700 dollars. I had a NAD cd player, great for the money, but the Apollo brought a nicer sound to my music for sure. Or at least matched my needs and plan. If your willing to spend the 1200 also look at the 1000 dollar Arcam cd player as well, ask your dealer to have a listen. Very nice sounding cd player too. Depends on your likes and needs that will decide which one you like best.
You guys got me curious about the high end models that are not usually sold at Big Box retailers. I think I may check out some models at a nearby shop and see if I can notice the difference on a completely high end system whereas I'm used to simply hearing things on a 16 year old receiver with 20 year old 3-way speakers with 15" subs.
THANKS for the advice thus far! I would like to slowly upgrade my system -- starting with the CD player, then preamp, then amp, etc. I don't want to take little steps and rebuy everything over and over again. That's why I want the REGA over the NAD if its potential is much better.
RG, I still side with Stu in listening to a complete system, and Rega would come right to mind. No mind blowing nunbers, in price or specs. Just go and have a listen, make it a day trip or something, but go and listen. You might like or not, but for a solid deal, you get the PRaT very well. Especially on vinyl. like a new P3-24....
Rick G. Don't forget that buying a good CD only player will pretty much commit you to upgrading everything else, too. Make it a multi-year project to upgrade every piece in your system. Keeping all your equipment 'on the same page', what is usually called 'synergy' will be more difficult than doing the whole enchilada in one go, but it can be done.
Me too, Nick, but the 1072 does have it's own qualities. The player is very fast, I use it for RnR. The 1072 is also accurate, digging out detail that the Apollo does not(to me).
All around, the Apollo is superior, but I have had the chance to listen to both, along with the Classe trans/dac and a puter feed to the dac, and I find the Rotel more fun for John Mellencamp, Kiss and Rush. I much prefer the Apollo for all else, excepting classical, which the Classe handles with aplomb(after new caps after only 7 years...one shorted, 32 in the array.)
But what will the 1072 sound like through the rest of his system ? Through the Pioneer and Klipsch's, I'd be a little concerned that the overall effect might be a bit brash ? Hard to predict these things though, and it depends entirely on preference.
You may also want to consider the Onix CD-5SE from av 123. Looks beautiful, very solidly built, weighs about 20lbs. "Solid high quality, beefy power supply, Philips ultra-stable transport mechanism 24 bit/192K Burr-Brown 1738 DAC". Price is $399 with a 3yr warranty. Ok now the drawback, they are not in stock right now. But if you were not in the market immediately it is something to consider.
With those speakers, you will need a player that tones down the high end or your system will sound shrill. That probably means you won't be able to use an accurate player like the 1072. That's why I don't like Klipsch. I've never heard a pair that weren't too bright for my taste.
It's more than "a bit drastic" it's just plain wrong. But given his audio setup (maybe he also has Klipsch) that is what he might hear. Numerous professional reviewers would generally disagree with his assessment. I own the unit and it is not strident as Gavin claims.
I agree that pairing the 1072 with Klipsch might not be the greatest idea. Klipsh has a tendency to exaggerate high frequencies-you might call it their signature sound. But the player is very accurate despite Gavin's observations to the contrary.
Jimmy/John - The 1072 is a nice cd player. But of course it does fall under the typical sound of Rotel, which to some can come off as a bit on the bright side. Not so to everyone that is. Most like the Rotel presentation. If Rotel equipment is paired with the proper speakers, room and such, it is very nice gear. The fact that the 1072 would not be a good match for Rick's system would probably mean we can stop talking about it, and get back to what Rick has listened to in the past few days. Anything yet Rick? Don't leave us hanging dude.