Speaker Placement question + AA Emma comments
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Bronze Member Username: Raj_pEvanston, IL USA Post Number: 11 Registered: Oct-05 | I just got a pair of Tim's Emma speakers and because of my current living situation they must sit on a desk. Is there anything I can do to make the desk behave more like speaker stands or am I just doomed to slightly hindered performance? I havent had too much chance to listen to these Emmas but MAN do they pack a punch. I had to check my sub switch 3 times (i kid you not). The highs are sharp and detailed, the lows hit you like a fist in the stomach and the mids seem to be just right. I'm not quite used to the diffuse sound the Planar tweeter puts out but its nice not needing to toe my speakers in so much, it seems that the off-axis response is quite nice. |
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Silver Member Username: Timn8terSeattle, WA USA Post Number: 599 Registered: Dec-03 | Tip toes? It may also be the surface of the desk extending out in front of the speakers causing a very early reflection. Perhaps placing the speakers at the edge of the desk OR put something in front of the speakers to reduce the reflection (a blanket, piece of foam, etc.). I should've pointed out to you that the speakers do not need to be toed in, but you figured that out yourself. |
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Bronze Member Username: Raj_pEvanston, IL USA Post Number: 12 Registered: Oct-05 | While I'm not done analyzing these speakers, I can safely say that anyone looking to get real full range performance in a small package for a good price, look no further than the Emma. |
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Silver Member Username: Timn8terSeattle, WA USA Post Number: 600 Registered: Dec-03 | Thanks Raj! |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1145 Registered: Jun-05 | They seem impressive Tim,I would deffinetly like to hear them. |
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Silver Member Username: Timn8terSeattle, WA USA Post Number: 601 Registered: Dec-03 | Thanks TW. Raj got the only pair I had in stock. I've got my poor cabinet guy running in circles right now. Should have more soon. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1147 Registered: Jun-05 | Are you gonna let a few of us do a review on them?Im sure your gonna have more buyers this round from your reviewers. |
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Silver Member Username: NuckParkhill, Ontario Canada Post Number: 215 Registered: Dec-04 | Timmer, send emm my way when you know when. Meantime check out my page, hope you laff! greatwhitena.blogspot.com Had a laff doing it and thanks to you and Jan have a full time laff. enjoy Jamie ps,,spread it around if you laff Jamie |
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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 6444 Registered: May-04 | The Tweeter appears just in time for the Goldfinch season! |
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Silver Member Username: Timn8terSeattle, WA USA Post Number: 604 Registered: Dec-03 | Another tweeter. http://www.timn8er.com/NWDIY04.htm |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 2144 Registered: Feb-05 | American or Lesser. |
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Bronze Member Username: Raj_pEvanston, IL USA Post Number: 16 Registered: Oct-05 | Do Planars generally settle down in time? |
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Silver Member Username: Timn8terSeattle, WA USA Post Number: 605 Registered: Dec-03 | I'm not aware of a "break-in" period for planars. What you have is an extremely low mass suspended diaphram driven by rows of Neo magnets. There is no cone, spider or surround like a typical pistonic transducer. The planar "sound" can be a bit unexpected though, mostly due, IMO, to our being conditioned to expect the "sound" of dome tweeters. |
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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 6449 Registered: May-04 | OK, then, from your picture, Tim, I need to know if the goldfinch on top of the speaker column is there for mass damping or have you trained it to fly into the port on low bass notes for a "more restricted terminus"? |
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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 6450 Registered: May-04 | RP - What is the problem you're having with the tweeters? Too much information? Too fast? Un balanced? Planars do sound quite different than cone or dome type tweeters, however, most people have either an immediate love or hate for the design. |
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Silver Member Username: Timn8terSeattle, WA USA Post Number: 606 Registered: Dec-03 | The goldfinch is trained to fly about the room and sing at the appropriate time to increase the "ambience" of the recording. |
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Bronze Member Username: Raj_pEvanston, IL USA Post Number: 17 Registered: Oct-05 | I am not having a problem with them I'm just really not used to it. Initially I thought they were going to cause me to be fatigued but I feel like that was just me being way too used to domes. I am just curious about Planars in general since I've never had a speaker with one before. |
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Bronze Member Username: Raj_pEvanston, IL USA Post Number: 18 Registered: Oct-05 | For some reason be it me getting used to it or somehow the tweeter magically changing, it already sounds different to me than the first time I played these speaks (good thing). |
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Silver Member Username: Timn8terSeattle, WA USA Post Number: 607 Registered: Dec-03 | I suppose it's possible there could be some changes as the unit is played. We are still talking about a suspended diaphram on material that is somewhat "stiff", albeit, low mass. These two components could, theroetically, "loosen up" along with changes occuring due to heating and cooling of the unit. |
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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 6452 Registered: May-04 | I would undoubtedly attribute this change to an atmospheric pressure change and an alteration in the humidity inside the room. Being an "extremely low mass suspended diaphram driven by rows of Neo magnets" where "there is no cone, spider or surround like a typical pistonic transducer", the above referenced conditions are quite well recognized in their ability to influence such designs. Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket!!!! (Actually, I'm only partially kidding.) |
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Silver Member Username: Timn8terSeattle, WA USA Post Number: 608 Registered: Dec-03 | I don't want to get going about how temp and humidity changes room acoustics either. Then, there's always the late night "bloom". Stop now. |
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Silver Member Username: NuckParkhill, Ontario Canada Post Number: 233 Registered: Dec-04 | 'Late night bloom' Kindly put. And they LOOK better as the night progresses as well Imagine that |
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Bronze Member Username: Raj_pEvanston, IL USA Post Number: 19 Registered: Oct-05 | Oh my  |
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Silver Member Username: Timn8terSeattle, WA USA Post Number: 614 Registered: Dec-03 | Well, yeah that was kinda fun but I was referring to what some audiophiles call "the magic hour". Occurring at some point in the very early hours, say between 1am and 3am, it is said that stereos sound better when played during this time. A great deal of speculation and of course scoffing has surrounded this claim. What is it? The ionosphere? The earth's magnetic field, humidity, temperature or cleaner power because there are fewer appliances tapped into the grid? Is it even real? Who knows? It's all Jan's fault anyway. |
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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 6470 Registered: May-04 | HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! An evil smile is seen somewhere in the ionosphere! |
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Silver Member Username: NuckParkhill, Ontario Canada Post Number: 254 Registered: Dec-04 | That's when my electrostat is timed to turn on, without all those annoying toaster ovens and curling irons going. Or it's pinky and the brain trying to take over the world! MBW OOO OOO HHHA |
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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 6471 Registered: May-04 | What're we gonna do tonight, Brain? |
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Silver Member Username: NuckParkhill, Ontario Canada Post Number: 255 Registered: Dec-04 | WooHoo new post an the greatwhite blog. www.greatwhitena.blogspot.com |
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