4 Fi Audio IB3 18's walled off 15Hz tune in a VAN BUILD LOG

 

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Most likely a Buick Rendezevous... like last year, I'll set out tomorrow and may have one by the end of the day... but last time I ended up with an Aztek... we will see how it goes this time. I currently have 4 Adire Audio Extremis 6.4's, 2 CSS FR125S's, and 2 Vifa XT25TG30 ring radiators. I have a Kicker KX850.4 with a bad crossover on 1 channel for the 6.4's, a KX350.4 to be bridged 8ohm on the 4" full rangers, and a KX200.2 thats blown for the tweets. I can send the amps in to Kicker for repair, but I might just buy all new ZX series..IDK yet.

I'll be getting some SHURiKEN SK-BT80 batteries from SicAudio, a HO alt, and proably some audiopipe ap3000d's... Alpine W200 w/ Alpine PXA-H701.

I'll wall off the van with a few layers of MDF, 14" sonotube port in the center of the quad 18's... but no enclosure on the back side. I know I know... owell. After stripping it nekid, I'll use expanding foam to fill in everything I can then try to get a large quantity of resin to coat everything. Make it as air tight and rigid as possible. How sweet to pull up in the lanes and pop open the hatch and burp... unless I get more port gain with the hatch shut. This should be interesting, as the wall will divide the van into 2 chambers... the port connecting the 2... windows up IDK. Windows down, 6th order to the world. Will there be two tunings? a double impedance saddle? 2 low excursion points? we will have to see.

I'm also doing an HT build calling them the Twin Towers... dual 128 cubic foot enclosures each with an IB3 18" with a 12" sonotube port starting with a 6.5Hz tune and working my way up to 15Hz. Another learning/experimenting project.
 

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pix?
 

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Look what I picked up today!
 

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Username: Deadrabit

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i can't wait to see what u do. idk if tuning to 15 will be that great. but it will move some air
 

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Audiopipe AP30001D or Audiopipe AQX3500.1 buying 4 today

What batteries... I was planning 3 SHURiKEN-BT80's... but IDK

http://www.caraudiodeals.com/audiopipe-ap30001d-p-1453.html

http://www.caraudiodeals.com/audiopipe-aqx35001-p-2811.html
 

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idk about that amp... it says its a 2 channel
 

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I guess that amp is 2ohm.. Fi got back, I can get dual 4 so that I have a 4 layer coil instead of a 2 layer coil with a S2.
 

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I would take AQ over AP.
 

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quote:

I'm also doing an HT build calling them the Twin Towers... dual 128 cubic foot enclosures each with an IB3 18" with a 12" sonotube port starting with a 6.5Hz tune and working my way up to 15Hz. Another learning/experimenting project.






This I HAVE to see.
 

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most people test on a TL mic, this guy will be using the Richter scale
 

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^^ i laughed my @ss off
 

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Username: Kryptonitewhite

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just purchased 6 Fi Audio IB3 18's custom dual 4 ohm. Why? cuz it's double the coil in the gap. Double the wire to split the current flow.
 

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http://remybattery.com/Products/Deka-Intimidator-Battery---9A31__9A31.aspx

or

http://www.amazon.com/Shuriken-SK-BT80-80ah-Battery/dp/B0024ONCSW

and WHY?
 

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The Samsung Blu-Rey player I got let me down.. it's loud, sounds like an old printer. If you take the disc out it forgets where it was at and starts over. It can't read any of my burnt CDs, DVDs, or... other material. Sometimes the words don't match the faces on screen. This is compared to the last 2 DVD players I've owned over the years that each cost 30 bucks. So I bought the $100 Blu-Rey .. Magnavox.. so I could give the Samsung to my mother who won't care about all that and wants Netflix live stream. This one is the same... can't read burnt CDs or..other material. Forgets where it was at.

I had $35 of best buy rewards to use up...I figured about $20-$40 for a pair of RCA to XLR cables... they were 99c a piece! So I bought the last 5 they had! So then I had $35 rewards to still burn up, so I got a 100ft spool of Monster Cable :-( I HATE them. Walmart years ago had 50ft spools of yellow 12gauge for 10 bucks. I still have 1 or 2 left cuz I bought like 6 of them 6 or 7 years ago.

Bought rear drums and shoes for the van, as well as plugs, air and oil filter, and oil. The AC clutch is the fan noise problem. I may just pull the entire AC system like I did on my Accent GT and put the HO alt in it's place? Good idea?

I went to Sears today.. $190 for DieHard platinum. $805 for 4 of them. What ya'll think? get those tomorrow morning or order the Shuriken or Delta?

HT receiver and EP4000's shipped yesterday.


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this thread makes no sense... and will ultimately end in fail
 

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I just bought an IVA-W505 and a PXA-H701 today, now I'm working on batteries and HO alt.

I'm pulling my AC and either gonna drop a 2nd used alt and a AD244 stocker, or, a HO alt with the AD244 stocker.DC power , Ohio gen , APS is who missinglinkaudio recommended. nathan of ecessive can do a 200 amp for $345 shipped.
 

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I'll believe it when I see it.
 

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Started tear down on the van , going to get wood tomorrow... build in the towers first.

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So it appears all I have to do is :

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f27/how-to-high-output-ad244-alternator-for-80-a-3 76788/

I guess I should have a CS130D, find a AD244, and swap?
 

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This has potential...
 

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Username: Kryptonitewhite

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4 18's gonna move air no matter what... im kinda scared of poppin a window out, not breakin em
 

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Username: Glasswolf

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why are you tuning @ 15Hz?
It's below audible range, it's below the Fs of the drivers, and it's a very inefficient point for tuning. Especially if your goal is (obviously) SPL.
 

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Username: Kryptonitewhite

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no 20Hz is not the "cut off" as there is no "cut off" for hearing. It is a roll off, just like enclosures...ask Tom Danely. The lower it is the louder it has to be to hear it. But I like it, I love it... so I wont debate it :-) I already have it and I simply want more.

driver Fs has nothing to do with it :-)

inefficient compared to what? If I ran them sealed and I wanted to EQ to get the same responce.. doubt it. Yes the lower you tune the smaller that peak... ya I could tune to 45Hz and make it easy and be like everyone else...thats not what I want

SPL is NOT my goal
 

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Any more pix?

Build log on those towers is going to be very interesting.
 

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Username: Glasswolf

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Study transfer point, cabin gain, and the response curve of an enclosure. Also research what happens when a speaker unloads in a ported enclosure under a lot of power. I've been building IASCA winning systems and competing for over two decades. I'm vaguely familiar with this stuff. You have to be to pass the testing for gold level MECP certification.

20Hz is *approximately* the lower range of audible human hearing. Sure you can "feel" it lower, but musically you're not going to get much. Besides, music CDs have a filter that cuts off at 20Hz when they are mastered and put on disc. They also filter above 20KHz. That was a part of the Sony-Philips spec for redbook CD audio.

"How sweet to pull up in the lanes and pop open the hatch and burp"

I thought you weren't going for SPL? Which is it?
 

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hey uh, Jordan... just so you know.. GW is pretty much the most knowledgeable person on here. lol.
 

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I was being fecisious lol... I hear the same arguments over and over.. i'll assume no offence was taken.. I thought I was being obviouse enough :D
 

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just because I pull into the lanes a couple times and get my @$$ handed to my due to my low tuning and poo$$y subs, doesn't mean I'm going for SPL. Who else is gonna pull up and do 130s-140s from 10Hz-20Hz? it's all in fun. I enjoy subsonics. I do NOT enjoy super loud higher tuned monsters. I don't mind going to a show and watching a couple bad boys do a couple burps. But several hours a day at several meets every year of burps? gimme a break. I'm installing a DVD player so when I get bored of loud I can go pop Star Trek in my van and warp speed ahead. HULK. WOTW's. I like subsonics that can only be felt. I wouldn't be "wasting" 1000s and 1000s of dollars if I didn't. I could have gotten 4 BTLs and tuned to 45Hz and had a HUGE port area. nope. not for me. thanks. (yes I know it takes more than big subs big power and a high tune.. the point is, I wouldn't have what I have if I wanted what you guys want)
 

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its hard to tell.. you know, the lack of inflection in type and all. never too sure what someone is trying to convey.

Anyway it looks sharp so far. I hope it does well. I was just curious about tuning it that low. Have you tried tuning to various frequencies to see how it affects response, and what you think of the changes?

Sometimes it's fun just to make a few ports and swap them out to see the results with various tuned freqs.

FWIW, I rewrote my response above about 6 or 7 times to keep it polite and to simmer down.. lol I had to keep reminding myself not to get all defensive.
 

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^^ make an ask glasswolf thread
 

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oh no please don't
 

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to late lol
 

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it's always nice when Glasswolf comes around, but I see why he leaves.
 

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Wolf, I'm sorry if i was rude. I am always getting attacked from all angles in both home theater and car audio because I have an obesession for home theater drivers put into giant boxes with super low tunings for both home and car. So, people that are out right rude I try to ignore, but people who sincerely seem confused but want to help, I try to repond without being too defensive myself. I do appreciate your responses! I know I'm a different sort and there is always a select few that get it, or at least try to, and it's really fun when people dig it! We'll see how this thing turns out. :-)
 

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BTW I always make my ports longer and tune lower than I intend to for my target... That way I can do exactly what you are saying.... My home theater box will accomodate a whole 48" sonotube if I stick it out 1' as I already planned so that I have two free ends... that results in a 6.5Hz tune, but my target it going to be somewhere around 10 to 15Hz. If I end up cutting it down to 15, but I liked 10, then I will cut the port out, put a new one in, and retune to 10. Same thing with the van, I'm starting with the maximum length, subtracting one port diameter from the back, which results in a 10Hz tune, but I project that I will end up with a 15Hz tune.


I'm always learning and always playing.... it never stops.
 

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nice.

my concern was simply that tuning below the Fs of the driver can cause the driver to unload at high power, and damage the sub. If you're not having problems with that, then great.

For home audio, I'm just using a krell KSA-200 to drive a pair of MartinLogan electrostats (Vantage) and a pair of KEF Reference series 104/2 mains from circa 1991 (one of the last pair off the line before they were discontinued) my stuff is linked from my profile though, so no reason to list it all out.
 

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why not update your car audio link on your homepage glasswolf. i see no fi Q
 

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look uner automobiles > charger

the system is listed with the car specs
same with the jeep, although all I did in that was throw in a basslink with the factory infinity system using a PAC OEM1 adapter
 

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quote:

just because I pull into the lanes a couple times and get my @$$ handed to my due to my low tuning and poo$$y subs, doesn't mean I'm going for SPL. Who else is gonna pull up and do 130s-140s from 10Hz-20Hz?





Um...does 148.x @ 20hz count?
 

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nope, cuz he said 130-140, and you're clearly above that...
 

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148.x @ 20hz has got to be absolutely redonkulous.

Vids?
 

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Im pretty sure with our new friend on the way. We can touch a 150.x or more @20hz. Hopefully will see by april or may. Then scrapin here we come.
 

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tune to 65Hz and run it through the lanes. I just want to see what it hits. haha
 

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The PXA-H701 came a cpl days ago

Alpine IVA-W505 dvd player on it's way

I have 1 Fi IB3 18, 6 more on the way... 4 for the VAN, 2 for the HT until the 22's come out, and a spair

Going to get dual AD244 alts and maybe a modulator for them

Going to get 4 of those batteries pictured above

Need to get some 12 gauge power wire ;)

Going to order 4 AP30001D's when they are back in stock

I have a pair ( 3... a spair) Vifa XT25TG30 1" Ring Radiators to be run with the Kicker KX200.2

2 CSS FR125S full range 4.5's to be run bridged 8 ohms off the KX350.4

4 Adire Audio Extremis 6.4's off a KX850.4



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had a rust spot i knocked out today for a dollar. paint dont even match but i dont care its better than rust

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whats more fun tha chicks doing your work for you? (OK, helping..but they never take pics of you doin stuff, but you can't stop yourself from taking pics of them..so it appears that way!)

NOTHING!

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this dude at my local shop told me to disconnect this blue plug from it's blue connector sceen in these pics since the AC clutch went out.

I have 2 side effects now that don't make sense...any guesses?

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Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 127
Registered: Jun-04
alright IDK if I want to pull those heater cores out so i can fill in with foam later or just tape them off and leave them...cuz I dont want to deal with hoses

those electric boxes..idk what they are


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Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 128
Registered: Jun-04
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Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 129
Registered: Jun-04
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Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 130
Registered: Jun-04
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Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 131
Registered: Jun-04
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Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 132
Registered: Jun-04
[IMG]http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx180/kryptonitewhite22/001/0331001410.j pg[/IMG]

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I got BUSTED!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-JxL7G5DGU[/url]

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Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 133
Registered: Jun-04
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Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 134
Registered: Jun-04
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Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 135
Registered: Jun-04
did i use enough caulk?

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Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 136
Registered: Jun-04
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Silver Member
Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 137
Registered: Jun-04
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Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 138
Registered: Jun-04
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Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 139
Registered: Jun-04
I'm attempting something similar to my old front stage, but nothing near as elaborate.

there's a lot of available airspace, it's just that its so shallow and wide.... it's basically the width of the van, the depth from the front of the roof back to the wall...well, actually there's a roof support that cut's it in 1/2 before the wall... but it can only come down so far before it will obstruct my view or make the roof too low.

when I made my 1st front stage, the speakers were about 1.5 feet below eye level so I aimed them 1.5 feet above eye level to make them appear at eye level. Also, all 8 speakers were mounted on separate baffles, each speaker was aimed at exactly the same point on the roof.

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Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 140
Registered: Jun-04
so I have a problem. I spray painted the 1st side's windows black so it just looks like dark tint. but I didn't spray paint the other side. Good thing. For the 1st few days it looked pretty cool... all the different layers of foam that all looked cured a different way.

Today, I can see it all collapsed!
 

Silver Member
Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 141
Registered: Jun-04
so here you can see the outside edges where the foam was exposed to air turned out, you can also see I did some touching up this morning..some fresh foam in a few places, a few more cans hanging...but over all, very well


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some patch work

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see the dark yellow? thats old foam not yet cured... as I peel the duct tape away, foam not yet exposed to air is all gooey and starts to run and bubble when it gets air, so I try to press the tape back and let it cure more now that it has more air

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AND THE FAILURE. COLLAPSED. no air? now what do I do?

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the glass makes for terrible reflection I know...sorry

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Username: Ducka

Shelby Twp., MI United States

Post Number: 1396
Registered: Jan-08
No one is going to look at all of those, I know it takes a little bit of time to embed the pics, but atleast make a link rather than making it so that people have to copy and paste to see each picture. It's a PITA. Also, I only looked at the last picture to see if it was anything interesting, because i dont feel like checking all of them and it was... a picture of glass? wtf?
 

Silver Member
Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 142
Registered: Jun-04
what is the easiest way to embed. I post on 6 forums so its a lot of work taking the pics, uploading to PC, uploading to photobucket, making a thread of it, then posting to 5 other forums...some of those forums not showing the pics (this one) some of the forums only showing 7 or 8 photos at a time requiring multiple posts, in which case then you have to wait 60 seconds between posts to prevent flooding, in which case you have to keep track where you left off with the last post.


It is a pick through the glass of the collapsed foam. The last 4 pics were the hardest to see due to reflection...but I want people to see what I am talking about. "collapsed foam" is the best I could describe it.
 

Gold Member
Username: Hittin1

TEAM REVOLUTION, La. Lake Charles...

Post Number: 4368
Registered: May-07
get a free photo batch resize program (Faststone Photo resizer) and resize all of them at once... 600x450 usually works. They have to be 100 Kb or smaller and 600x600 or smaller to be uploaded. Once they are resized you can upload all of them in 1 post.
 

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Username: Wingmanalive

Www.stainles... .ecrater.com

Post Number: 22609
Registered: Jun-06
Use the upload image button down next to the preview/post message below. Image has to be 600 X 600 max with a 100k file size limit so you may have to resize them to post.
 

Diamond Member
Username: Wingmanalive

Www.stainles... .ecrater.com

Post Number: 22610
Registered: Jun-06
Er, yeah, what Mark said lol.
 

Gold Member
Username: Frkkevin

Team DLSSuperNatural...

Post Number: 7562
Registered: Nov-05
man i want to see the build log but don't want to click a bunch of links :P

i sent you an email btw jordan.. its the email specified in your profile here
 

Silver Member
Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 146
Registered: Jun-04
the email is a much easier way of doing this :D

sorry guys... thats just so much more work than I already have to do to try and share! can the forum be updated or modified so that it's like the other ones that it works for copy/paste? jw...
 

Silver Member
Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 148
Registered: Jun-04
Kicker is fixing 2 of my 4channels for $115!

KX200.2 used to blow fuses immidiately. someone started repair, now green light but no sound

KX850.4 crossover on 1 channel doesn't function properly
 

Silver Member
Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 153
Registered: Jun-04
so, the foam did cure, it did collapse so to speak...more like it left giant voids. But it also left a huge skeleton structure... it looks like an under ground tunnel labrynth by moles and the like. Some of it is very concentrated and sturdy looking. I think this is a blessing in disguise.

I'm just gonna drill and fill.

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Gold Member
Username: Deadrabit

Marionville, MO

Post Number: 2349
Registered: Jun-07
ur pix dont work man.. i want to see
 

Silver Member
Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 155
Registered: Jun-04
im on the fence here guys... IDK why I can't just copy/paste here.. would be a lot easier, as 6 of the other 7 or maybe its 5 of the other 6 forums I dont have to do this... and 1 other forum that the pics dont show up for, no one has replied there for a while so i just stop posting there.

I'll post these here... if you guys want me to.. but IDK about resizing them all the time, ya know? There's got to be an easier way...
 

Silver Member
Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 156
Registered: Jun-04
ya so... when i was looking for power wire, I couldn't get a definitive on AP30001D terminal size, but i think it is 0. So I looked for 0. Then, the guy I bought the amps from was selling 50ft spools for $100. But i found some cheap crap for $65. Sure, it wasn't pure copper, and he couldn't tell me if his was when he said "sorry I don't get generic so i can't go less than a bill" or something to that effect. But i figured Ive never ran bigger than 4 gauge.. i dont care what anyone says, screw internal resistence and volatge drop and all that talk. I had 6 red tops off 4 gauge and I was fine, so if I get cheap 0 gauge it still has to be better than the best 4 gauge.

Another angle: The junk was $50, $65 shipped. The "good stuff" was $100... IDK how much shipping would tag on, but let's just say the cost was double. There's no way that the copper only wire is gonna be twice as good as the junk wire. So screw it!

BUT, I got it today, and you can literally see a fraction of the strands are aluminum! OK, so i was thinking I would have to pay double to get some 99.98% pure copper wire or some crazy number vs maybe 80%-90% copper...but wow, this is like 60%-80% maybe? IDK...

And, it sure doesn't look huge. It resembles the 4 gauge I've been working with..but the packing says 0 gauge..so whatever.


So then I had to look for terminal rings, and IDK the terminal size on my AGM batts...so i just get the biggest I can order... and of course its a touch small, so I have to use a drill and shave the holes to get them to fit my battery terminals.

Oh well! No crying here. I got a badass system in progress. I'm not letting some collapsed foam in my way! Slow me down? ya. But it will get done!


So as for foam, I drilled 2 holes in 2 separate pockets and sprayed just 1 can in each. It looked normal at first, but later it looks like it's just melting into the rest of the blob. I'll look again tomorrow in new light.

I got some cheap paint and painted the caulk from the window..looks a lot better.

I'ma keep on movin! ALT and AMPS should be here soon.

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Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 157
Registered: Jun-04
The wire nor anything else is a huge issue. Here is an end pic to show jacket thickness.

[IMG]http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/kryptonitewhite222s/0410000006.jpg [/IMG]

if I am competing to get every last drop of SPL, that last .01dB..OK. If I'm competing in SQ and I just gotta have it perfect...fine.

But 99% of the time I'm going to be using 20% or less of the power I have on tap. Those IB drivers aren't going to be getting 3000 watts RMS! Those 1" tweets aren't going to be getting 200 watts RMS! I am over building so that I can coast rather than redline
 

Silver Member
Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 158
Registered: Jun-04
ok nevermind! my old 4 to my new 0... big difference

[IMG]http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/kryptonitewhite222s/00001/04100000 24.jpg[/IMG]
 

Gold Member
Username: Ducka

Shelby Twp., MI United States

Post Number: 1400
Registered: Jan-08
Dude! Stop it! Seriously take a break. Stop making stupid posts with one hundred links that dont work. Please.
 

Silver Member
Username: Kryptonitewhite

Luverne, MN USA

Post Number: 159
Registered: Jun-04
done. not a prob. this forum is erased.
 

Bronze Member
Username: 410inchl7s

BROOKLYN , NEW YORK NEW...

Post Number: 68
Registered: Apr-10
jus right click on the pic and hit open with.. then choose paint..then go to image on top and then stretch skew and resize it in half where its says 100% jus put in 50 and save it--then ur done
now post pics..easy
 

Gold Member
Username: Deadrabit

Marionville, MO

Post Number: 2380
Registered: Jun-07
hahaha it really does not work
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