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New member Username: RegizzlePost Number: 1 Registered: Jun-09 | Hey guys, this is my first post and im pretttyyyy new to the sound scene so i dont know anything by code or acronym. I recently bought 2 L7 12's for 100 bucks from a family friend, at which point i thought was a steal. but only problem is that one has a slight cut in it from moving to his new house but he told me i could easily fix that with 5200 silicon. if it was possible to fix as i hope it is. will it mess my quality up and do i have to be weary of how loud i turn my system up? What amp can i buy that would be affordable to make my system quad and power my subs to their full capabilities. i currently own a 1988 jeep Cherokee, so i would like to know if i need to upgrade anything in the car like battery or alternator or anything of that nature? do i need a capacitor? and what size power cables should i run? and what radio should i buy? forgive me for my questions if they seem dumb cuz im new and dont know anything lol. Thanks ! |
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Gold Member Username: StnorrisFully Loaded BL 15?, IA US Post Number: 2261 Registered: Apr-06 | First you must firgure out what ohms the subs are. The kicker L7s are probably either DUAL 2 OHM or DUAL 4 OHM. Then they can be matched to an amp. Yes your sub can be siliconed, depending on the size of the rip. If its smaller and just on the rubber, the sub should be able to be patched very easily, maybe a patch and silicone, or just the silicone, DK. If youre running more power like 1500rms (750rms each), which would be needed to fully power those, you must run 0 gauge wiring. You may possibly need an electrical upgrade, depending on the amp you choose for the subs. DO NOT buy a capacitor. Cd Player: check out pioneers and alpines for a start. the've got some great models available. |
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New member Username: RegizzlePost Number: 2 Registered: Jun-09 | cool cool, ok let me check my subs. also, my subs are encased in a specialty box for a honda civic. should i sell that box and buy a new one? |
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Gold Member Username: StnorrisFully Loaded BL 15?, IA US Post Number: 2267 Registered: Apr-06 | Ya no doubt, sell that box. The box for a honda civic would be very insufficient for a JEEP. The best, cheapest route for you would be to build a box yourself, using a box calculator or a program. Your subs should be DUAL 4 OHM. Meaning you can wire them together and present a 1 OHM load on the amp. This means you need an amp that does 1500rms @ 1 ohm to full power these subs. |
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New member Username: RegizzlePost Number: 3 Registered: Jun-09 | 1st question is why don't i wanna get a capacitor? when i turned the system up to around 17/34 (with only one sub woofer currently working) the overhead light was dimming. isn't that an issue? wont my headlights dim as well? to add, in the 0 gauge wiring department this is what i have. this is my wiring ATM >_< http://img507.imageshack.us/i/photo0230.jpg/ http://img526.imageshack.us/i/photo0231c.jpg/ http://img194.imageshack.us/i/photo0232p.jpg/ Radio, subs, box. http://img507.imageshack.us/i/photo0233.jpg/ http://img507.imageshack.us/i/photo0234.jpg/ http://img41.imageshack.us/i/photo0235.jpg/ also this amp is 3000 watts and doesn't break the bank ( at least for me ) can i get this? http://www.antonline.com/p_PLA-2230-NX_282957.htm and here is a video of a single L7 powered by a bridged Jensen 600w 4chan amp.. bridged to 2 chan. please dont flame me. >_< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fxiE4r3csI&feature=channel |
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Silver Member Username: Purplehase_bongBC Canada Post Number: 342 Registered: Apr-04 | fail. |
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Silver Member Username: Vivi2000Owosso, Mi Post Number: 213 Registered: Aug-07 | From what i can tell that power wire you are using does not look even close to true 0 gauge. Looks to me like 8 or a little bigger. Most wire should have writing on the insulation jacket that might say the gauge it is. The amp you posted, I would not bother. It is 3000w peak power, which is useless. You want the RMS power. It says it does 1500x1, but does not specify at what ohm. Also if your power/ground wires are to small, then that can cause dimming too. I had 4 guage with my amp, and it dimmed the lights at very high volumes. I upgraded to 0 gauge and added another amp and my dimming is gone. What is your total budget for this? |
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New member Username: RegizzlePost Number: 4 Registered: Jun-09 | id say about 500, and as the posts have been going i need: 0 gauge wiring Amp that can pump out 1500 RMS new radio My cousin also offered me 2 6x9 pioneers that he bought for his truck but never used for $10 and the current speakers in my jeep are 4" i think. is it a big deal to make the space larger. ( the speakers currently in my jeep are stock.. yes stock.) |
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Silver Member Username: Vivi2000Owosso, Mi Post Number: 214 Registered: Aug-07 | So $500 for amp, box, wiring and new headunit. Are you able to build a box yourself? You can make a good one for just about $30(a sheet of 3/4" MDF screws and glue) if you have the tools already. I get all my wiring at www.knukonceptz.com I have never had a problem with it and many people use them and have not had a problem, great prices. Is there any kind of stereo you would prefer? any special features you want? |
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New member Username: RegizzlePost Number: 5 Registered: Jun-09 | im probably going to get a pioneer. as for box im going to leave it as is for now. |
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Bronze Member Username: Simple_smithLapeer, Michigan United States Post Number: 30 Registered: Dec-08 | AudioQue 1200d makes 1200 watts @ 1 Ohm and for $250 brand new it'll run your subs good and won't break the bank. Pioneer makes very good head units and they're generally around $80-180. Mine was like $135 and I'm really satisfied with it |
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New member Username: RegizzlePost Number: 6 Registered: Jun-09 | i dont understand tho, can my subs run 1 Ohm cuz people say theyre 4 Ohm and 2 Ohm i dont understand the difference in the Ohm's. |
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Silver Member Username: Vivi2000Owosso, Mi Post Number: 215 Registered: Aug-07 | I have a pioneer deh3000IB, i am very satisfied with it, it can be had for around $90 new i believe. Has good ipod support(although no iphone/ipod touch charging) and the filters on the HU are nice for the price it is. To find out what ohm your subs are, take them out and there might be a sticker that says. If there is not and you have a DMM(Digital Multi Meter) set it to 20ohms and probe one coil, record the results. If your subs are 2 ohm DVC then you can run them at either 2 or 4 ohms. If they are 4 ohm DVC then they can be ran at 1 or 4 ohms. |
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New member Username: RegizzlePost Number: 7 Registered: Jun-09 | i dont have a DMM GGGRRRRR, but ok let me attempt to remove one of my subs =P |
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New member Username: RegizzlePost Number: 8 Registered: Jun-09 | i removed one and it says 2ohms which is bad i assume because the way the amps work the lower the ohm the high the wattage right? >_> |
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New member Username: RegizzlePost Number: 9 Registered: Jun-09 | bump GOGOGO |
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Bronze Member Username: Simple_smithLapeer, Michigan United States Post Number: 31 Registered: Dec-08 | I'm no expert at wiring so I'm not going to say anything that may not be right, but an AudioQue 2200d is $389 new on their website |
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New member Username: RegizzlePost Number: 10 Registered: Jun-09 | bump |
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Bronze Member Username: RegizzlePost Number: 11 Registered: Jun-09 | bump |
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Bronze Member Username: TedsprogzNunya, Florida US Post Number: 67 Registered: Aug-05 | you need an 2 ohm stable amp...i would take out the other sub and make sure its a dual 2 ohm also.you can use a 1 ohm stable amp but only get about 50 percent of the power. |
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Bronze Member Username: RegizzlePost Number: 12 Registered: Jun-09 | damn they were bought as a pair i would assume but ok ill remove the other to make sure its a 2ohm as well. as your saying i can run a 2ohm subwoofer at 1ohm? i dont understand the amplifier to subwoofer ratio thing with ohms yet. someone give a detailed explanation please =) |
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Gold Member Username: StnorrisFully Loaded BL 15?, IA US Post Number: 2277 Registered: Apr-06 | TWO Dual voice coil 2 ohms subs can be wired to 2 ohms. TWO Dual voice coil 4 ohm subs can be wired to 4 ohms or 1 ohm. http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/woofer_configurations.asp Check that site out, it will easily help you. You will most likely need an amp that does 1500rms @ 2 ohms or whatever rms you like, just must be two ohms. Yes, this could mean that the amp you buy will probably be more expensive because of this. Dont keep bumping the thread, just do a google search or wait a bit. Good luck. |
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Bronze Member Username: RegizzlePost Number: 13 Registered: Jun-09 | THANK YOU! steve, ill repost some pics n such once i have everything i need although i have a low budget. once again thank you to every1! |
