RE SX 15
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New member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 8 Registered: Dec-08 | After reading your threads I just purchased the RE SX15 sub and found a perfect ported 4^3 box. Now I need an amp. I am looking at the MA Audio HK2000D, Hifonics or Boss. Any feedback is appreciated. Need to stay in the $300-$400 range. |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 1606 Registered: Nov-07 | what is the VC config of the sub? |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaHoughton and/or Macomb, MI United States Post Number: 913 Registered: Jan-08 | If it is 2ohm DVC go with the Audioque1200D...Cant beat it for the price. |
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Silver Member Username: DlavanteD&L Designs, Daniel USA Post Number: 138 Registered: Feb-07 | x2 |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3D&L DesignsDustin Post Number: 4877 Registered: Oct-05 | you already posted this in the amp section |
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New member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 9 Registered: Dec-08 | The one I purchased is a 2 ohm DVC. Here are add. specs. Electrical Q Value -Qes: 0.38 Mechanical Q Value -Qms: 4.7 Total Speaker Q Value -Qts: 0.38 Free Air Resonance -Fs: 27.8 Hz Equivalent Compliance -Vas: 126.3 liters One-Way, Linear Excursion -Xmax: 22 mm Efficiency -SPL 1W/1m: 90.4 dB SPL Effective Piston Area -Sd: 810 cm^2 DC Resistance -Re: 1.9 ohm Nominal Impedance -Znom: Dual 2/4 ohm Thermal Power Handling -Pe: 1000 W Force Factor -Bl: 21 The ported box I bought is 3/4 inch MDF with 4^3 tuned at 34 hz. |
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New member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 10 Registered: Dec-08 | I posted in amp section, but no one is home, so I moved here. thanks for any help. |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 1607 Registered: Nov-07 | Nominal Impedance -Znom: Dual 2/4 ohm we need to know if its 2 or 4 if you want amp suggestions |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3D&L DesignsDustin Post Number: 4878 Registered: Oct-05 | i was home in the amp section lol |
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Silver Member Username: DlavanteD&L Designs, Daniel USA Post Number: 139 Registered: Feb-07 | its dual 2 |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 11 Registered: Dec-08 | Yes, it has dual 2ohm voice coils. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1894 Registered: May-07 | AQ1200D http://www.audioque.com/aq/AQamps.htm $249 shipped.... please never mention Boss and MA Audio again, lol |
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Gold Member Username: Loc_outTeam RE XXX Post Number: 2695 Registered: Feb-05 | " please never mention Boss and MA Audio again, lol " I second that. |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 13 Registered: Dec-08 | All good information, thanks. The RE SX 15 is rated for 1000rms or 2000max. Do you think the audioque AQ2200D would be better than the AQ1200D? Or should we go with a Hifonics in the same power range? |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1896 Registered: May-07 | NEVER GO BY MAX RATINGS.. THEY ARE USLESS!! No that amp would smoke that sub unless you wired it to 4ohm which would be redundant. Plus you would need electrical upgrades with thye AQ2200. The AQ1200D is more than enough for that sub... Please don't mention "Hifonics in the same power range" with the AQ2200D. LMAO |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaHoughton and/or Macomb, MI United States Post Number: 918 Registered: Jan-08 | I would suggest The AQ 1200D. |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 14 Registered: Dec-08 | So, even though I have read differing opinions, comparing the AQ1200D to the hifonics bxi 1606d, you like the AQ. At rms the AQ provides 750watts the bxi delivers 1000. Will that make a drastic difference based on the specs of the RE SX 15 sub? Sub is rated for 1000rms and 2000 max. Pardon my redundancy; however, this is a sizeable investment for my son and want to get it right this time. We are now going to sell his current system, which is almost new. |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 1609 Registered: Nov-07 | the AQ1200D does 1200 RMS @ 1 ohm im not sure where you get 750 from |
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Silver Member Username: DuckaHoughton and/or Macomb, MI United States Post Number: 919 Registered: Jan-08 | Trust us. You want the AQ. |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 15 Registered: Dec-08 | I was basing the rms off the respective web sites at 2ohm not 1 ohmn. the sub is has a dual 2ohm vc. I will bother you later as to the most efficient hook up between the sub and amp. I read alot about series and parlell wiring. |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 1610 Registered: Nov-07 | AQ1200D 510X1 @ 4 ohm 870X1 @ 2 ohm 1200X1 @1 ohm follow link below and look at option 1 - this shows you how to wire the sub to 1 ohm http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/woofer_configurations.asp?Q=1&I=22 |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1911 Registered: May-07 | We will not steer you wrong, Brewski.. The AQ1200 puts out 1200+ @ 1ohm... The hifonics is a decent "overrated" budget amp... Of all of the lower quality amps mentioned, the Hifonics wins... Kinda like saying hifonics wins the special ed race 100 meter dash..... Without ever leaving the starting line. The Aq1200 is a perfect match with that sub and costs as litttle as the "lesser quality" amps. Customer service with AQ is also outstanding. |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 16 Registered: Dec-08 | In the diagram, wiring the sub to 1 ohm uses the paralell method, correct. Now the amp you recommend has a left and right, 2 + and 2 - terminals. Do you just twist the two + and connect to the + of one vc and twist the two - and twist to the - of the other vc? Then bridge the + and - terminal to each other on the sub? The diagram only shows the amp haveing one + and one - lead, not 2 of each. Also, would it not be better to wire it at 2ohm since the sub is 2ohm as well. The AQ2200 at 2ohm puts out 1300 at 2 ohm. |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 17 Registered: Dec-08 | I do respect your opinions and have read most of the topics on www.bcae site to gain a better understanding of the setups. Does wiring the sub to a one ohn put too much on the amp or sub? I thought the higher the ohm the more efficient and cleaner sound. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1922 Registered: May-07 | run a jumper wire from one positive(on sub) to the other positive (on sub) same with neg's then run one positive from v.c1 to either positive output on amp and 1 negative from v.c.1 to either negative output on amp. check impendance with DMM. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1923 Registered: May-07 | you can also run 2 sets or wires out of the box... run each pos to a pos on amp .. same with neg's.. The sub outputs on amp are internally paralleled. Other way is easier. i suggest 10-8 ga. wire for subs. but 12 ga. will do if that's all you have |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 18 Registered: Dec-08 | I understand that's how I wire it to get to 1 ohm. Last question, hopefully. If I want to run it in a series pattern, which would leave it a 2 ohm; would the AQ2200 be better than the 1200. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1925 Registered: May-07 | if you wired it in series than you would achieve a 4 ohm load. As far as trying to talk yourself out of the aq1200.. I wouldn't worry about it's effiency or the sound that it will produce.. You should be very happy with that setup. It will be loud and fairly clear.. That is RE's spl based sub but it has good SQ considering.. |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 19 Registered: Dec-08 | gottcha. the diagram shows how to wire for a one or four ohm load. how about a 2 ohm load. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1926 Registered: May-07 | not possible with that sub. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1927 Registered: May-07 | you would need a dual 1 or 4 ohm voice coil configuration to achieve a 2 ohm load. |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 20 Registered: Dec-08 | I'm getting there. Which do you think is better for the sub and amp; 1 ohm or 4 ohm setup or does it matter? I thought I read the 4 ohm setup is easier on the components. 1200 puts out 510 at 4ohms the 2200 puts out 870 at 4 ohms. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1932 Registered: May-07 | lol.... you are thinking... which is a rarity for most people new to E.. But your components and amp will be just fine @ 1 ohm, because that is what the amp was designed to do... The sub dont care what ohm it is wired too. It only wants recommended power no matter what ohm it recieves it. Hope that makes sense. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 9189 Registered: Jul-06 | Agreed with everything mark has said here. Run it at 1 ohm, the amp is meant for it. |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 21 Registered: Dec-08 | Got it. Thanks for the info. I do tend to ask alot of questions; however, I like to research a little and learn something well before i proceed. An AQ1200 it will be, run at 1 ohm. That BCAE site is amazing, quite informative. Hope the RE SX 15, AQ 1200 in a 4^3 box tuned to 34hz does it. Just hope I don't need to change out the altinator. Any idea how much the Ho Alt's cost? Approx. I would rather do this right then half way. don't need my son't lights dimming, or battery not charging properly. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1936 Registered: May-07 | I paid $499 on sale for mine.... Mybest investment. I got mine from Mechman. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 9197 Registered: Jul-06 | you might want to try and on the stock alt first and see how it does. |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 22 Registered: Dec-08 | In the discussion above, you reference that at 1 ohm the aq1200 puts out 1200 watts. What is the RMS and Max output at 1 ohm? I have been under the impression I should look for a decent amp that puts out 1000 watts RMS. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 9198 Registered: Jul-06 | 1200w RMS. it is always good to have more power than you need. Don't look at max/peak it means nothing. |
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Gold Member Username: Livin_loudCOD4 Addict Post Number: 2809 Registered: Jan-06 | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_handling the 1200wrms is what it will put out continually. generally the "max" out put is around double that, but still meaningless. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6001 Registered: Nov-05 | selling my DLS A3 for $250 + actual shipping does 1200+rms @ 1 ohm Great match for that sub |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 1861 Registered: Oct-07 | get the AQ Brewzky. |
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Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1629 Registered: Aug-06 | I wish you were my dad Brewzky! |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 23 Registered: Dec-08 | I am getting the AQ. Looks like everything will be here for Xmas. Thanks for all the help. I'll have my son mail yall a thank you card. |
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Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1631 Registered: Aug-06 | just post up a vid when its all done, so we can see it in action. |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 24 Registered: Dec-08 | Will do. I'll give you a before shot with the sub, amp and box under the tree and an after shot of it in action in his durango. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1945 Registered: May-07 |
Send pic's of mom, maybe can be arranged lol.. j/p Mark S. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 9200 Registered: Jul-06 | ^^^ lmao |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 25 Registered: Dec-08 | I don't know, I bought her something from Vic. Secret. |
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Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1633 Registered: Aug-06 | there she is, can we get this done!  |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 26 Registered: Dec-08 | Is she on ebay? |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rI compensate... Post Number: 9078 Registered: Jul-06 | Damn, that girl is gorgeous. |
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Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1637 Registered: Aug-06 | ^^^ hey thats my mom your talking about. |
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Gold Member Username: JkidderWorlds gunna end, In 2012 Post Number: 3874 Registered: Nov-05 | you're a very smart person brewzky. most people would have looked on ebay or just ran out to the local car audio place and most likely made a wrong decision. going to bcae1 and coming on this forum asking for advice is truly the best thing to do. your son now has a great system that falls together just right. keep in mind, however, the install is just as important as the equip. used. 1/0g wire is required from the battery to amp and from amp to ground. try to keep the ground wire as short as possible. another cheap and simple upgrade is the big 3. it is simply adding bigger wires (1/0 or 0g, same thing)to replace key connections. first is the alternator positive to the battery positive. second is the battery negative to chassis. last, engine block to chassis. a good ground connection is very important. sanding down a piece of the chassis and using a rust-free bolt is the best option. that's a fairly simple upgrade that creates better current flow. as for speaker wire, anything from 12 to 16g is just fine. don't hesitate to ask questions... |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 28 Registered: Dec-08 | If she were my mom, I'd still be breat feeding. Cisco, thanks for the info and I will more than likely be back on here once everything comes in, hopefully before Xmas, as this is a surprise for my son. But when it's time to start running wire and the like, I'm sure between this site and bcae1, I will get it done the right way. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6009 Registered: Nov-05 | running wire is the easy part.. taking apart the car might not be so easy haha invest in lots of zip ties btw.. always zip tie the wires to pre-existing wire.. its also easier to tape your wire together as a harness before running it.. makes it easier to run 1 harness of wiring vs 3+ wires.. in my case i know i at least have 6+ on each side going to the trunk |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 6010 Registered: Nov-05 | on the comment of the AQ 2200d smoking the SX.. only if you did something wrong.. I've ran more power to mine with no issues.. but considering the case.. i'd stick with a lower rated amp |
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Gold Member Username: JkidderWorlds gunna end, In 2012 Post Number: 3885 Registered: Nov-05 | i had to tape wire to a long stick and poke the stick under my backseat into the trunk where i could then pull the stick and coincidentally pull the wire through as well. |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewzkyPost Number: 29 Registered: Dec-08 | Luckily my son already has a system installed 8 months ago. He got shafted and paid $750 for dual Kicker CVR124's in a sealed box and a 400 watt Audio Planet amp. It sounds okay, but is probably worth half of that. Now he hears all of his friends sytems and knows he should have done a little homework. The audio store did do a good job wiring his Durango. I can basically take out what he has and replace with the above system; which better sound quite a bit better than his current one. He wants to sell the above system for $300. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 9232 Registered: Jul-06 | Wow he did get burned.... he will be lucky if he even gets $300 for that stuff |
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