Decision on AQ or Sundown
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 975 Registered: Oct-05 | I have a AQ2200D amp and this guy wants to trade me his SAZ1500 for it and not sure if thats a good deal or not. Im prety sure the AQ puts out more power i think but also heard lots of good things about sundown amps he also said he would throw in a kinectick 2400 battery with the amp for my AQ2200D. Is this a good trade or will the AQ2200D overpower the sundown |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI United States Post Number: 1230 Registered: Oct-07 | 2200 for a sundown and kinetic. hell yeah do the trade. |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 976 Registered: Oct-05 | do u think i would notice a big loss of sound if i trade for a lower rms amp tho. i heard from a lot of ppl AQ doesnt do rated power anyways tho but it sounds good to me just wish there was somebody that heard both amps hooked up and could hear any difference |
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Silver Member Username: Imalik15 SI Mag9.1=Boom, New Jersey Jerzee Playa Post Number: 624 Registered: May-06 | According to Kevin Holden the AQ 2200 is a bit overrated, He said the sundown was louder to the ear |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5588 Registered: Nov-05 | either way go with the sundown |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 977 Registered: Oct-05 | So im assuming i probably won't hear much of a difference between the amps and plus be getting a kinetick 2400 on top of that? |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI United States Post Number: 1232 Registered: Oct-07 | yeah. you are definitely getting the better deal on that trade. |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1201 Registered: Nov-07 | no question - i would take that trade all day long |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1394 Registered: May-07 | do it or BAN! lol |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 978 Registered: Oct-05 | lol alright would i hear any difference between the 2 amps? or sound basically the same thats my main concern |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1397 Registered: May-07 | that question has already been answered! |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 149.5 DBsTrinidad & T... Post Number: 14180 Registered: Jul-05 | but what sub\s will either amp be powering ? ..... |
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Gold Member Username: Stateprop486PA Post Number: 1656 Registered: Jan-08 | 15" audiopulse revo. |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 149.5 DBsTrinidad & T... Post Number: 14182 Registered: Jul-05 | havent been around AQ but i have seen a few sundown 1500 in action even up to yesterday & they def deliver the goods well that sub is 1500wrms so u would be giving rec power MHO ; ask the guy to let u try his amp on ur sub in ur car ,only then will u know for sure ... |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 149.5 DBsTrinidad & T... Post Number: 14183 Registered: Jul-05 | id say keep ur AQ since u would have the headroom on ur amp - i rather have extra head room power than giving rated & yes i know the SD is underrated ... |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 980 Registered: Oct-05 | i been running the aq2200d on the sub wit no problems and sounds great but the thing is wit the guy that wants to trade is from caraudio.com and its hard to trust people on trades online i wish i could just ask him to let me try the amp but that won't work. Just pretty much wanna know if im wasting my time tryin to do this trade since the amps are pretty close in rated power but the good thing is he said he including the battery |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 149.5 DBsTrinidad & T... Post Number: 14184 Registered: Jul-05 | well let some more ppl give more opinions b4 u decide ...but if u dont need that batt then keep what u got ... |
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Gold Member Username: Philly306If it werent for box r... Post Number: 1313 Registered: Apr-07 | I was going to say yes take the trade(thinking it was local) until i read it was with a ca.com member. To me it's not worth it if you are happy with what you have. There has been too many trade scams on ca lately to take that chance when it won't change much. My advice: Stay with what you have. CA.com is just to risky. One question did the ca.com member contact you about the trade or did you contact him? |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 981 Registered: Oct-05 | the battery would be nice tho since im usin everything stock sumthin just seems suspicious about this guy cuz idk why he wanna give me a saz1500 and a battery which right there cost like 700 bucks and my amp only cost 389 unless he dont kno the price of the AQ its basically if i can trust this guy or not |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 982 Registered: Oct-05 | the guy contacted me he found my sn on CA and messaged me today about if i would be interested in a trade |
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Gold Member Username: BernymacCambodia Post Number: 4328 Registered: Sep-04 | profile of the guy on ca.com? |
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Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan1315 Mag USA Post Number: 10379 Registered: Jul-06 | ^Word, who is it? |
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Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 4334 Registered: Mar-06 | I have an aq2200 and I am very happy with it. If you need a bateery, just buy one. The time and effort put into a trade is not worth it imo.. |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 983 Registered: Oct-05 | i actully found out the guy works for SSA whatever that is i think it deals with sundown and other subs and amps. He said he could hook me up with dealer prices he said he used to work for ROE so i might go threw wit that trade since sounds a little more trustworthy |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Es DEALER, GA USA Post Number: 2349 Registered: Mar-06 | Do the deal! Trust me. Kevin |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 984 Registered: Oct-05 | kevin i heard u actully heard both amps in action so ur sayin the sundown actully seems louder even tho they are like 700 watts apart |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Es DEALER, GA USA Post Number: 2352 Registered: Mar-06 | I am not the only one. There are a couple of folks with the same opinion as well. I also seen where someone mention that a Kicker 1000 seemed louder to the ear than a 1200D. Could be true, maybe not, but I would perfer the sundown 1500d over the 2200d IMO. Kevin |
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Gold Member Username: Stateprop486PA Post Number: 1657 Registered: Jan-08 | ^yep i had swapped out a zx1000.1 to run aq1200d and ended up putting the zx1000.1 back in because it was def louder. lol |
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Silver Member Username: CozcePost Number: 283 Registered: Mar-08 | I'd rather have the Sundown, at 12.5 volts and 14.4 volts. |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 985 Registered: Oct-05 | I'm gonna go through with the trade im just hoping i won't be dissapointed and think the AQ sounded louder then the sundown but i wanna belive kevin's word since he actully heard both amps |
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Gold Member Username: BernymacCambodia Post Number: 4330 Registered: Sep-04 | So are you shipping first or what? Because IMO, the deal sounds so good that I would be very cautious. |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 986 Registered: Oct-05 | we are actully gonna ship at the same time he gave me his phone number and address and he also works for SSA so i think I can trust him |
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Gold Member Username: BernymacCambodia Post Number: 4331 Registered: Sep-04 | Did you investigate to see if he really works for SSA? Because I would hate to see you complain a month from now about how you got scammed. |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 987 Registered: Oct-05 | I have not i wouldnt know how to find out if he really works for them but I did actully see pics of everything he saying he really just wants a more powerful amp so he wants my aq2200d and he has a bnib kinetic2400 he'll include wit it. I mean it does seem like a really good deal to me but he also sayin to me if he can actully trust shipping to me because 99% of the time he saying he only likes to deal with SAS members because of people scamming so he making everything sounds legit unless he just playing it off really good |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1399 Registered: May-07 | what is his username on CA? |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 988 Registered: Oct-05 | he says he barly ever goes on there but i belive his name is livin' loud and i know is aim sn is zx livin loud zx |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 6532 Registered: Feb-06 | pm denim over there and ask him if this guy actually works for ssa. and is this guys name livin loud21? if so i'd be careful due to the fact he just joined this month, has only a couple posts, and no refs anywhere in his sig. have you searched this guys name over there, especially in the buyer/seller feedback section? |
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Gold Member Username: BernymacCambodia Post Number: 4332 Registered: Sep-04 | "i belive his name is livin' loud" You really need to know so we can help you out, or else your going to get scammed. Because I bet, if none of us were to chime in, you probaly would of went with the deal. You probaly would of shipped first, and then he would say something to the effect of, I didn't get to ship it out today. Bam, scammed. Do you really think its going to be that cheap to ship a battery of that size. Its just idiotic imo. |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI United States Post Number: 1234 Registered: Oct-07 | I found a Livin' Loud over at caraudio.com and it says he's banned. http://ww.caraudio.com/forum/member.php?u=57695 |
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Gold Member Username: BernymacCambodia Post Number: 4333 Registered: Sep-04 | And you should check this thread. http://ww.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=345127&page=8 You can thank Ecoustics for saving you. Took us 2 times to ask who he was until you gave us a reply. |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1208 Registered: Nov-07 | wow what a scamfuck |
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Silver Member Username: DenimSoundSolutionsAudio.com, MD USA Post Number: 794 Registered: Nov-06 | There are only 2 people who "work for SSA". One being me, the other being Mark. Neither of us have/own/or have a need for anything Audioque. Plus it makes no sense for us to trade for Sundown. |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI United States Post Number: 1237 Registered: Oct-07 | yeah definitely don't do the trade now. |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Es DEALER, GA USA Post Number: 2355 Registered: Mar-06 | Yea, I was fixing to say, only 2 peeps actually work SSA, so that was going to go bad all around. Step down off that. What is up with the scams on CA.com lately? Everywhere I look over there, someone is being scammed, even by known members. Economy is bad, but come on. Kevin |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22452 Registered: Oct-05 | kevin holden doesn't even respond to my text no more. |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1Es DEALER, GA USA Post Number: 2356 Registered: Mar-06 | I got no text RESEND!! Kevin |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 2008 Registered: May-07 | "^yep i had swapped out a zx1000.1 to run aq1200d and ended up putting the zx1000.1 back in because it was def louder. lol" Maybe because your amp puts out more power @ 2 ohms than the AQ @ 2 ohms  . Did you ever put the the HDC and the Alpha on the AQ1200D? |
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Gold Member Username: Stateprop486PA Post Number: 1658 Registered: Jan-08 | lol nah i ran the aq1200d at full power 1ohm on rd alpha 15"...i ran a hdc315 on the zx1000.1...lol so def a difference of loudness. i also hooked up my friends 15" AP to the aq1200d and it was barely nothing to me. lol |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 2009 Registered: May-07 | Your comparing apples to oranges, figuring you underpowered the Alpha. What ohm did you run the Revo at on the AQ? |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 989 Registered: Oct-05 | wow yea i dont think i should actully do the trade now i actully took everything out of my car to wtf. and the address he wants me to ship to is oklahoma and he says he lives in oklahoma where he works with SSA which i know SSA is located in maryland which makes no sense to me now. his profile on CA also has his name as Jake and the shippin address is James its like he had a big setup i have a feeling he's gonna probably talk me into it tonight again. I did notice he did buy a lot of stuff on CA tho but thanks for the look out guys i was about to go ship this today now i know not to |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 990 Registered: Oct-05 | Your comparing apples to oranges, figuring you underpowered the Alpha. What ohm did you run the Revo at on the AQ? We ran my AP at 1ohm on the AQ1200D and it was barley any power at all. I def think the AQ amps are Overated which is why i got the AQ2200D instead which seems to be perfect for my AP prob not giving the full 2200rms but prob at least getting 1700-1800rms which is great. |
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Gold Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 3819 Registered: Sep-06 | Why would someone sell SAZ-1500D and a Kinetik 2400 for a AQ2200D. When he could sell them for more and buy a NEW AQ2200D and have money left over. Something to think about.^^^^^  |
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Silver Member Username: Cplaya280Pennsylvania USA Post Number: 991 Registered: Oct-05 | yea i was thinking that to unless he really didn't know the actull prices of the amps but i know its not that hard to look up a brand new AQ so yeah that was something to think about |
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Silver Member Username: Chevyfan502AQ HDC315Elemental De... Post Number: 147 Registered: May-06 | or maybe the hdc315 is just louder than the alpha...its very efficient because of its strong motor. i had my hdc315 hooked up to my nine.1 and my friend has an aq1200d and we hooked that up to my hdc315 also and they seem close to exactly the same. I know own the aq2200 and even on stock charging it is much louder than my nine.1. i was definitely impressed with the AQ. |
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Silver Member Username: Chevyfan502AQ HDC315Elemental De... Post Number: 148 Registered: May-06 | now own* |
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Gold Member Username: LoudonPost Number: 2715 Registered: Jun-04 | the alpha dominates the hdc3 .. better sq and gets louder had both in the same enclosure with about 1800 watts.. and the alpha put the hdc3 to bed |
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Silver Member Username: Chevyfan502AQ HDC315Elemental De... Post Number: 151 Registered: May-06 | how big of box and tuned to what?.. |
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Gold Member Username: LoudonPost Number: 2716 Registered: Jun-04 | 3.5 cubes to 32 hz ... 60 inchs of port |
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Silver Member Username: Chevyfan502AQ HDC315Elemental De... Post Number: 152 Registered: May-06 | well theres one reason...ive had some dd's tuned around there....tune to around 36-40hz and 4cubes. it has a strong motor and suspension therefore u can tune higher and still get the low end with a lot harder hitting mid range. sub has recommended 40hz tuning just like dd's. |
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Gold Member Username: LoudonPost Number: 2717 Registered: Jun-04 | the low end is weak on the audioque sub even at 40hz ... the sub is no where near its first version ... although it still has great output ... its not the same .. the alpha is a more versatile driver |
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Gold Member Username: Stateprop486PA Post Number: 1659 Registered: Jan-08 | hdc3's is not made for low ends thats why but i still love mine n it gets loud  .....but i didnt mean to bring up the AQ vs. Alpha. lol i was just sayin the aq1200d doesnt feel like it does rated power compared to my zx1000.1. its all good now i got a clarion dpx11550 1500 @ 2ohms or 1ohm |
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Gold Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 3820 Registered: Sep-06 | A friend of mine just got a clarion DPX11550 for his two RE SE 15's. 8cf. at 34z  |
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