Kicker l7 ???? wut are they god for? spl,sql?
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1034 Registered: Aug-06 | i heard they were for spl only and can get pretty dam loud. |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1178 Registered: Aug-07 | spl... NO SQ to them. if you want loud bass then you got the right sub, if you wanted something more sql, then i would look else where |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1035 Registered: Aug-06 | nah i like to switch up allot.cant decide on what to stick with im 18 and have had about 8 different systems, but prolly 15 different amps. but right now i do want spl lol. thanx. |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewskyPrince george, British colu... Canada Post Number: 98 Registered: Aug-08 | for every L7 you have burp on like 1100-1200 rms and they do good |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 8338 Registered: Jul-06 | Good for SPL but they sound like azz on music |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1978 Registered: May-07 | "Good for SPL but they sound like azz on music" x2 |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1036 Registered: Aug-06 | really! damm. so just daily driving and bumping to rap they suck? a guy at our last comp had one and the kicker sx amps it was an all sq setup he said . anyways.... so these subs will not sound good on music at all>? |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1204 Registered: Aug-07 | " an all sq setup" WHAAAAT??? they are known to have ZERO sound quality to them. they are meant for numbers but dont have the best build quality. theres better for the money. i would DEFINATELY recommend looking at a different sub. how much r you looking to spend and how much power can you run? |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1982 Registered: May-07 | It would be OK on rap, but under any sort of transition in the frequency or choppy bass hits it will sound bad. This is coming from my experience in a sealed alignment, I don't know how it would sound ported. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 8344 Registered: Jul-06 | ^^^^ just as bad. But a lot louder. |
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Gold Member Username: Loc_outSOCAL2 RE 15 XXX Post Number: 2449 Registered: Feb-05 | "a guy at our last comp had one and the kicker sx amps it was an all sq setup he said" Thanks for the laugh |
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Silver Member Username: Imi4tth3wSan Antonio, Texas USA Post Number: 206 Registered: Feb-07 | i've got a ported 15" L5. had it for almost 2 years now. unclear as hell but will get pretty loud |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1037 Registered: Aug-06 | willing to spend 300 on subs.maybe a little more. going for 12's... and i am running stock alt right now but upgrading my battery next pay check. what a good battery but kinda on the cheap side. |
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Bronze Member Username: BrewskyPrince george, British colu... Canada Post Number: 100 Registered: Aug-08 | at low levels they might sound ok but the sub itself has sort of a lingy noise  lol some with kicker components they dont sound the best a L7 is going to set u back almost asmuch as a nice sql 15 or 18 kicker subs dont seem to last aslong either there spiders seem to wear out quick |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1246 Registered: May-07 | If ya gotta have keeker.. Go CVX |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1044 Registered: Aug-06 | how are the cvx? any good? do the power? |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1984 Registered: May-07 | They can be had for cheap on ebay. Haven't looked in a while, but you could pick up refurbished ones for $130-150 shipped range. I haven't heard a CVX, but are suppose to sound WAY better than solobarics. |
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Silver Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 595 Registered: Aug-07 | sorry yall but i gotta do this yall are morons, if you put a L7 in a proper box they sound pretty dam good, hell maybe its jus im a good box builder and got lucky cause at one of my comps the SQ judge sat in my car, the sat in my teammates truck with 2 JL 13.5w7 and 2 1000/1...... guess whos sounded better???? also used 2 L7 15's for my SQ comps the whole season and guess whos in the running for world finals this year FYI??? |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1986 Registered: May-07 | So what sub would you compare the SQ of your L7's to? I've heard 15"s on 500w and 1000w, both in small sealed and large sealed, and was not impressed at all. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 8378 Registered: Jul-06 | So you're right and everyone else is wrong. Sure....... |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5516 Registered: Nov-05 | paperweight or doorstop? also can be used as a weight for deep sea fishing or to anchor a john boat  |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 8382 Registered: Jul-06 | haha   |
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Gold Member Username: Naledge503Portland, Or Post Number: 4160 Registered: Jun-06 | I want to know why L7's have won so many SQ competitions if they sound like crap? Gary Biggs won SQ comps with 2 18" Solo X's and a 10" L7 in the same install. So what makes them sound so inherently sh!tty compared to other subwoofers? If you say its in the install, well isnt SPL all in the install as well? So we can come to the conclusion that all subwoofers sound shitty and will sound good in a great install. And all subwoofers are not that loud but will get loud in a great install. |
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Silver Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 596 Registered: Aug-07 | no everyone is not wrong, just most of yall probably didnt hear it in a proper setup, you know i look up to you M.S. im just saying not bragging but my L7 15's off 1000 watts each, in a 4.5 cube box each tuned to 40 sounded dam good |
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Silver Member Username: Tiki89Post Number: 286 Registered: Oct-06 | Keep in mind most of the people who said they sound like straight azz have never heard one..... And if they did it was some noob with a crappy box and amp. |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1103 Registered: Nov-07 | i have had 3 different 15 L7s i dont think they sound terrible but i dont consider them sq either keep in mind that i was one of those people who had noobcake boxes though  |
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Diamond Member Username: BestmankindPost Number: 22263 Registered: Oct-05 | this argument has been around since the stone ages. lol. some like the L7 and some don't like the L7. alot of times the ones that don't like the L7's are the ones that read the forums and copy what others are saying. i have heard awesome installs with L7. but i guess to each his own. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 8385 Registered: Jul-06 | Well I've prob heard about 20 systems with L7s and not a single one had good SQ..... hard to believe they were all bad installs |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rI compensate... Post Number: 8680 Registered: Jul-06 | Everyone has their own opinion sounds good and what doesn't. Some like over powering, inaccurate bass and others like mellow but accurate bass from a sub stage. M.S., what were these L7 systems tuned to? Ever hear an L7 setup tuned to 30hz? Probably not? 32? Still probably haven't. "you know i look up to you M.S. :-) " That's sad, why in the world would you look up to him? |
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Gold Member Username: LoudonPost Number: 2678 Registered: Jun-04 | i loved my l7s ... ran strong for over a year got stupid loud and sounded good enough for me |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 8390 Registered: Jul-06 | I couldn't say what they were tuned to....... some of them were in the Kicker boxes, some were prefab boxes, and a few were custom. But regardless of tuning they didn't sound good even in the higher bass frequencies. |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1047 Registered: Aug-06 | well are they good with lows? cuz i see someone said have they been in a 30 and 32 hz tuned box. i guess he means helll no. lol. and the kicker boxes. are they any good? or are they prefab |
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Silver Member Username: Purplehase_bongBC Canada Post Number: 295 Registered: Apr-04 | Ive had many systems. Sq and SPL. I however run 2 12" solobaric L7's in a 3.0cf sealed custom box, despite the haters, i honestly have to say that the L7 is not the worst is sq, It actually sounds very good is the right spec box, it really depends on the setup. Any sub can preform good under the right application. As for SPL its pretty damn good and can hang with the best. |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1049 Registered: Aug-06 | so my ? is the kicker box it is in are they any good? it seems pretty big for one sub at least 3-4 cu ft. its ported the slot is on the right but not in front on the back right side. never seen a port right there. is it worth $225? i might soon if i did choose to get it get another one . but would the ssx treo be better? |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 8399 Registered: Jul-06 | Theres a ton of subs better than a L7 including the SSX |
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Silver Member Username: Purplehase_bongBC Canada Post Number: 296 Registered: Apr-04 | michael if u want shear bass that rattles ur brain then get the kicker, you wont be dissapointed. |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1055 Registered: Aug-06 | ok but i want it to sound good and hit hard but also i want the lows. i listen to all rap so i love lows. im sick of the system i have now that only hits highs...and hardly any lows without sounding sh.tty. but yea everyone says h kicker sound like sh.t and only god for spl then others say no that's wrong. so im stuck not knowing what to do i can get a ssx from daniel for the same price but not enough power to even power it half way lol. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 8405 Registered: Jul-06 | Even so the SSX is the better sub..... and later on you could throw more power on it for even more output |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audible Insanity]- Post Number: 2210 Registered: Mar-07 |
Have you ever heard a even decent SQ setup? I'm sorry, but the L7s would not even sound half as good. They are made strictly for SPL, and they do a good job at that. I lost count of how many different boxes I have made for an L7.
Wrong. Some subs just suck completely. But not Funky pups
The people that hate have actually heard SQ setups, SQL setups, and SPL setups. My setup sounds GREAT for a SPL setup. But in no way would I call it a sound quality setup, or even compare it to one. There is a huge difference in "sounding good" and "sound quality" Many people get confused on that. |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1057 Registered: Aug-06 | ok so daniel is the ssx still for sale? or have u sold it? do u have a box i can buy that is ported? |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1058 Registered: Aug-06 | bumppp |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 8407 Registered: Jul-06 | Wow I agree with Nick V on something finally |
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Silver Member Username: Purplehase_bongBC Canada Post Number: 297 Registered: Apr-04 | ok you want lows, that means you want a spl setup, the L7 hits lows very nice.! No sh!t theres better subs on the market, but the kickers are not even close to being a Crappy sub. They take a beating. If you want sound quality strictly then go buy some JL audio W7's which costs 3-4 times more then the L7. What im understanding from you is that u want lots of bass, sq is not meant for that, its meant to hit every single note. |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audible Insanity]- Post Number: 2215 Registered: Mar-07 |
Man, that is nowhere close to being right. SPL setups are generally made to hit one note, and usually it is a HIGHER note because most peak frequencies of vehicles are high. The higher note your vehicle likes to peak at, the better (in most cases.) SQL setups are made to do more of what he is wanting to do. And I'm sorry, but a L7 sounding good on low notes? Maybe 38-40hz, and that isn't considered "lows"
The build quality on them are horrible. They have the worst failure rate of any sub. How is that "taking a beating?"
Once again, that is bad advice man. I'm glad you are trying to help, but you need to read a little more before answering questions like this. The W7 has always been more of a SQL sub for the installs I've seen it in. It is a very nice sub, but I wouldn't call it strictly sound quality. Why are you even comparing an L7 to it? The JL's build quality is 1000x better anyday. And in car audio, you get what you pay for.
You can have lots of bass that does hit every note. It's 80% install, and 20% equipment. In fact, at USACI shows, your SQ install has to hit as least 130db on the TL. |
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Gold Member Username: LoudonPost Number: 2682 Registered: Jun-04 | nickky boy ... i will say this .. ive dealt with manyyyy solobarics in my day used to sell them at the shop i worked at .. and i will say this ... those subs while being very good budget spl woofers and daily street beaters arent built like a dd/rd/dc/aq woofer ... obviously mass producing drivers ... that would take forever ... kickers marketing is the exact oppostie quanity over quality... while still retaining a solid customer base with an above average product |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 8412 Registered: Jul-06 | Above avergage product? They have one of the highest failure rates in the business..... |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audible Insanity]- Post Number: 2216 Registered: Mar-07 | Hey Mikey lol I'm not calling them a horrible sub. But they are not so much budget.. Lets look at retail prices here (ebay prices aside) Kicker 15" Solo-Baric L7 = $549 Now, a few brands you compared it to that has a better build quality: Digital Designs 3515 = $400-$450 RD Alpha v2 15" = $559.00 (of course, that is MSRP and you can call a dealer and get it alot cheaper) DC doesn't have any of their prices listed. AQ HDC315 = $249 AQ HDC315-A = $330 Now, the subs I listed go used on Ebay all the time. And recones are extremely cheap. They also compare to the L7 as far as power and use of install go. Great subs that have a lower retail price than the L7, with recones available at all times...OR....The L7 itself. Anyone ever talked to anyone that is big in the kicker corporation? The owners of most of the the companys I listed are members of this forum, and many other car audio forums. It's your choice. |
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Gold Member Username: LoudonPost Number: 2683 Registered: Jun-04 | not gonna disagree with you at all M.S ... but take a look at the thousands people who are satisfied with their solos .. and the competitors that put up serious numbers with the l7/solo x ... nick i agree with u there bud i really do ... my shop sold them for 3-400 any they sold like wildfire .. local customers who just want loud .. are the main buyers for this sub ... i know for a fact they paid my bills lol .. but all in all .. i would say they are an above average woofer ... having seen soo many happy customers with these woofers .. regardless of the 10-20 people that have come back with issues ...there is no way i could classify these subs in a negative manner and ur right about the big audio companies .. no one knows who runs them and thats that the way anything is thats mass produced ... no one knows who runs the sharp aquos division ... just the way of the world |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audible Insanity]- Post Number: 2217 Registered: Mar-07 | Alot of the locals just think kicker is the best stuff ever. The shops around here make a killing off selling kicker and memphis to everyone that walks through the door lol. They are above average in SPL. The advantage in cone area is something that no one can disagree with for single sub setups. Of course, I could get two 12" subs for the price of one 15" solobaric and put them on the same power, and have more cone area. Yeah, that's just the way the world works sometimes Beer for everyone involved in the debate  |
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Gold Member Username: LoudonPost Number: 2684 Registered: Jun-04 | my old shop owner has 4 04 l7 8s hes gonna sell me for a 100 bucks .. should be pretty loud in my winter beater |
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Gold Member Username: Andrew571Stillwater/Edmond, Oklahoma USA Post Number: 1991 Registered: Oct-05 | o snaps just saw this thread. Am I the only one who didn't know L7s were God!?!?!?!?!?!?! Does God put out 200 deebeez? |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1061 Registered: Aug-06 | ok this thread is going no wear! SO F.CK the l7 then ok ive herd to many BAD THINGS ABOUT THEM. anyways. ok so no i dont want an spl setup cuz of one of u saying its meant to hit one high not ethat peaks. no i want my system to sound good on mostly lows and some highs. i mean young jeezy isn't his lows on hi ssongs like 38-45hz? ok i love his lows on his music thats not to low but stil i want something that will at least get low enough to feel and yes i want some highs im not asking for the best dam sql setup i know there is one for at least 600 bucks. a single 15 or 2 twelves. dont care just something that if i build a good ported box its going to get louddd and sound decent.ok i have a budget. 300 for the sub or subs.there has to be something in my range that will do good. and nick young jeexy sounds low but isn't his music again only 30 something to 40 hertz?i want something that sounds good with those songs and maybe get a little lower for some songs. |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 6503 Registered: Feb-06 | mach5 ixl. |
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Silver Member Username: Purplehase_bongBC Canada Post Number: 300 Registered: Apr-04 | despite wat people say about the L7's i stand by it, and i will be competing sept 21 for both spl and SQ, so for all the haters i will post my marks. with my current setup im hitting insain lows, whole car flex's. I will be competing against few of my buddies. they have type r's, Treo's, DD's and premier spl series. |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1130 Registered: Nov-07 | yep i will still sell it michael just let me know |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1131 Registered: Nov-07 | i do have a box but i am not sure if i want to sell it right now |
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New member Username: CanyoufeelthebasePittsburghUS Post Number: 1 Registered: Sep-08 | I dont know what u talking about that kicker in right box is good for anything Even though they are overrated and too expensive |
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Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 18195 Registered: Jun-06 | I can't help but giggle when anyone puts DD in the same zip code with a Kicker L anything. Not hatin', it's just a different world here in the underground.  |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audible Insanity]- Post Number: 2231 Registered: Mar-07 |
How do you compete in SPL and SQ with the same setup? I'd love to see your "marks" and exactly who is the competition in the SQ department?
Lol. I see why most of the regulars stopped posting. |
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Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan1315 Mag USA Post Number: 10309 Registered: Jul-06 | "DC doesn't have any of their prices listed. " When I exchanged emails with Rusty, I got prices on the Level 4's and they were about the price of the HDC3s I believe....but prices could have gone up cause this was like 8 months ago lol. |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1063 Registered: Aug-06 | no i just wanted to know if the kicker boxes were good. and ok daniel ill let u know when i want it witch is soon. butt i need to know how to make pay pal? |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1135 Registered: Nov-07 | you can go to the site www.paypal.com or send check/money order whatever is easiest for you |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1064 Registered: Aug-06 | ok so i could send u a check in an envelope in the mail?how long does it usually take to get to someone? |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5544 Registered: Nov-05 |  |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1139 Registered: Nov-07 | for work i send checks from michigan to south carolina and it usually takes about 3 days just a regular 42 cent stamp |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1065 Registered: Aug-06 | ok but if i sent a check can i put it on hold til you send the sub then ok it? or because of safety u want it to be cashed b4 u send it? i just dont want to be ripped off.. not that u would |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1142 Registered: Nov-07 | i would prefer having the check clear prior to sending it out i have dealt with BCS ,Polo,Chad Lee,Daniel Cournier i sent andrew capps an amp this week do you have any refs? |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1068 Registered: Aug-06 | ok that's fine since you dealt with them i heard good things. and no i been here allot but never bought or sold anything . i will wait till it clears then u can send it its cool. but give me a week or 2 . if not u don't want to wait and sum1 else wasn't it that's fine i don't want u to wait. |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1150 Registered: Nov-07 | i can hold it for you |
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Gold Member Username: Mike_16Reedsburg, Wisconsin Us Post Number: 1071 Registered: Aug-06 | ok sweet!!!! im excited. and i heard this l7 i hooke dup to my blaupunkt amp only supposed to do 500 at2 ohms but i have it wired to 1 ohm load and it was clearer than my 3 jl wo's .... and somewhat louder on certain songs its ported in the kicker box. the jl's are sealed . but the kicker only hit better lower notes and sucked on highs the jl's suck in lows prooly cuz of sealed and hit really high highs. |
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Silver Member Username: Purplehase_bongBC Canada Post Number: 301 Registered: Apr-04 | Well, i just got back from the IASCA comp. I got 1st place in my class, what do you know about that haha . and at the db drag i got 3rd cause they kinda paired me up unevenly, o well im stoked. |
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Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 4313 Registered: Mar-06 | Yesterday, A wall of 4-15" L7's ported. a 148 or something. 2-FI 10"s 149.2 |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 8461 Registered: Jul-06 | Wow that wall had to of been a terrible install lol. |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1159 Registered: Nov-07 | ^thats what i was thinking |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1995 Registered: May-07 | Marc, do you happen to remember what hz that was at? JW. |
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Silver Member Username: Purplehase_bongBC Canada Post Number: 302 Registered: Apr-04 | buddy up in kamloops hit 151.3 with 2 kicker L7 15's in a huge box. so the guys with the 4 15's probly had a bad run or messed up his setup. |
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Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 4314 Registered: Mar-06 | not sure what hertz. This was the Kicker car. And a few other pics.   These bikes were so insane, turbo & N02 'Busa's  And those crazy Brazillian's with those crazy horn set ups. This one did like 132 on horns.  |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 2001 Registered: May-07 | Sweet pics mark! I'm intreuged by that kicker amp setup, wonder what ohm they're running them at? |
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