Whats Better Than a 10w7?

 

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What 10" Sub will beat a w7 in Sq AND SPL, or beat in one and match in one, with less than 750 watts??
 

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Depends on enclosure but I have a few :-)

Kevin
 

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What are they?
 

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RD Sonance, RD Alpha (single spyder), and the Phoenix Gold RSD's aren't bad at 500 rms a piece.

Kevin
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Kevin I didnt know you carried Phoenix Gold. Do you have the new PG subs? If so how are they? They look nice.
 

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W7 > PG...

Kevin I sent you an e-mail a few days ago. Did you not get it?
 

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RD Audio
 

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Yeah RD audio

alot of stuff better than W7s
 

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www.rdaudio.net
www.soundsplinter.com
 

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I wouldn't say better, I would say comparable. but yeah RD Audio makes a great product
 

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Fi car audio
Treo engineering
Audioque
Digital Designs
shocker audio
SI
Atomic
 

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audioque, dd, and shocker dont have a driver that compares in SQ to the w7 for around the same money. i pretty much rule out the 9100 as an option for anyone.

fi probably doesnt have anything as good either, its just cheaper... si definitely doesnt and atomics sq driver wont have near the output of the dumb 7... and the ssi would be the closest thing to a dub7 and the dub7>>>>>ssi
 

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LMAO
have you heard every single driver from AQ, DD, Shocker???? dont think so
Have you heard all treo subs???? The F-ing SSX is wayyy better then the W7 the W7 isnt an SQ woofer ...its a street beater its a woofer some nub can get throw power to it and it wont blow....
that was the main objective when they designed it...and to put down every single company that i just stated shows how much you actually know....W7 is there HIGH END woofer....why dont you compare the companys HIGH END woofers against it....W7 not W6

my Thoughts

treo ssx > W7
DD 9500f > W7
Atomic APX> W7
Fi Q > W7
AQ HD3 < W7
Si Mag < W7
 

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You obviously haven't heard a W7 in a good install...

I have heard the SSX, the 3512, and 9515. I'm assuming that the HD3 sounds similar to the 9515 and It doesn't even compare. The SSX gets louder, but what do you expect? The APX is an SPL woofer. Maybe you just have a strange taste for... i don't even think we can call what you like SQ.
 

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lol 3 woofers, and yet your able to say whats better then the other.....ive herd plenty of W7 installs maybe your problem is that you havent heard the ssx in a good install (obviously b/c you built the box)
9500 runs circles around the W7, the only thing the W7 has over the 9500 is low end other then that the 9500s bass is more accurate. i hope you think just bc a woofer has a lowend it means it has SQ :-\
APX eh id have to say its SQ isnt up to par...altough it has some its not like a solo X persay...

The Q is better then the W7 which apparently you neither disagreed nor agreed so nothing to argue there.

And honestly im about to contradict my last post the MAG hands down (older one for i am unfamiliar with the neww one) has much better sq then the W7 and ive heard PLENTY of mags in trunk cars and SUVs. they all seem to dominate the W7 in all aspects...


the funny thing reece is that you didnt even read the first post where he says and i qoute:
"What 10" Sub will beat a w7 in Sq AND SPL"


ROFL so yeah keep thinking we are only talking about SQ....
 

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dave, is the fi q really better than the mag? you may just have answered berny's question.
 

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"is the fi q really better than the mag"

is this a question???
i never remember saying that statement...
in my opinion its to close to call
 

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because i havent heard subs from shocker (spl company) and the atomic apx i cant have an opinion? i personally like low end and thats a big consideration for me when i buy a sub. haveing good low end is a good start to having a nice sounding sub. am i saying thats all SQ entails? did i EVER say that? didn't think so. i havent heard a fi.q so thats why i didn't comment on it. i think we have the second coming of M.S. forming in dave...

not to mention you've contradicted yourself 3 times in 2 posts...

"Atomic APX> W7"
"APX eh id have to say its SQ isnt up to par"

"The Q is better then the W7"
""is the fi q really better than the mag"

is this a question???
i never remember saying that statement... "

hahaha
 

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"Fi Q > W7
AQ HD3 < W7
Si Mag < W7"
 

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ok to clear things up since yall dont read my posts...

i said:
"And honestly im about to contradict my last post the MAG hands down (older one for i am unfamiliar with the neww one) has much better sq then the W7"

so thanks for reading-chad < reading...


and reece:

Reading > you

"Atomic APX> W7"
"APX eh id have to say its SQ isnt up to par"

yeah and? i still think the apx is better then the W7 dont remember saying it wasnt just b.c it isnt up to par on SQ doesnt mean i disregard my last opinion about it....
 

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so because it will beat it in spl and sounds like garbage you like it more? im just if you are answering the guys question about what gets louder and sounds better than the w7 you cant say the apx is better than the w7

not to mention you still contradicted yourself about the Q... twice...
 

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not to mention you still contradicted yourself about the Q... twice...???

please point that out....i still dont see how im contradicting myself enlighten me....
just b/c its SQ isnt up to par doesnt mean it doesnt have any sq at all which you seem to be assuming....youve never heard one!!! what i get from you is that just b/c its an SPL sub it sounds like trash....im willing to sacrafice a tad bit of SQ to have my sub louder..which in my view it makes it a better woofer...

im clearly stating my views, were as you are only insulting my views and not sharing your own. so how about you take that d1ck out your a55 and learn how to argue without being a d1ck.cuz thats the whole point of a forum
 

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"Fi Q > W7"

"The Q is better then the W7"

""is the fi q really better than the mag"

is this a question???
i never remember saying that statement... "
 

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i'm not being a dick, i'm just pointing out facts dude... you continue to contradict yourself... just because a sub gets louder doesn't it fits his bill right? just like if the SQ is amazing and not loud at all it doesn't fit his bill, right? i'm just saying the point of the forum is to help people. i just think you should answer his question instead of choose a bunch of SPL subs (minus the Q and mag)
 

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""Fi Q > W7"

"The Q is better then the W7" "


okay in both im saying the Q is better then the W7

and then in the second part its saying if the Q is better then the MAG

not the W7 so how am i contradicting my self???

LOL damn reece and to think your in college what do they teach you!!??? how to pay the teacher to talk and you not listen???
 

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is someone upset they didn't get into college? its alright dude, you can always pursue your dreams of 150 the rest of your life :-)

regardless, with your rationale an L7 is a better driver than the W7 because its louder.
 

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actually i am in college :-\
third semester full time and i dont pay for one cent b.c i got an academic scholarship....

yeah your right i think the L7 is better then the W7 b/c L is closer to A... :-\

you know as much sh1t as chad and thats not saying much

150 has come and gone i have a new goal :-\
 

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that's why you're stills "movin on up"? lmao... community college doesnt count david...
 

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dude why you gotta bring me in to this? i was asking a simple question cause berny was thinking of getting a fi q. i told him i think the mag is better. but from your post i thought you heard both and you were saying the q was better so i was gonna pass that on to berny.

anyways dave i don't know why you are so defensive lately but its cool.

"you know as much sh1t as chad and thats not saying much"

ah geez thanks.

"150 has come and gone i have a new goal :-\"

bullsh!t
 

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community college counts once im done and move on to USF either way im takin two years of the same classes whether at fsu uf or hcc.....

chad
im not defensive nothing im keeping it real....

yeah 150 has come and gone and yes i do have a new goal, which i dont care if you believe or not b/c i put up the numbers myself i dont pay for them....
 

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HAHAHA i don't base my existence on numbers. honestly i could give a sh1t less what I would score on a TL. i listen to music to enjoy it. hence why i like my driver to have good lows and not sound like sh1t because it gets loud.

by the way, i hope you aren't planning on going to graduate school after you two years of community college...
 

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I'm sorry, but nothing DD/AQ makes except the 9100 has the SQ of a W7. I have no opinion on the Shoker sinc I have never heard one.

Reece, I' sorry, I didn't get your mail. Who said a L7 was better than the W7?????

Twizdid, the PG subs are pretty nice, but I havn't played with the new RSD comp yet so I can't say on that sub. But the RSD's hold up nice and I have not had a warranty claim on one yet :-)

As for topic at hand, at 750 rms, I would HIGHLY recommend a single spyder Alpha or Sonance. I listen to alot of hard rock, and my Alpha keeps up pretty easy :-)

Kevin
 

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exactly kevin. i was just hitting you up about a price on a single spider alpha for a friend.
 

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" i don't base my existence on numbers"

neither do although i do have goals with my system the same way i have goals for work, college, skateboarding ect.....

USF is graduate school reece....
 

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usf is a college with a graduate program, dumbass. maybe you should focus on getting out of community college before you start thinking of grad school... just fyi, graduate programs are fond of community college grads... its not that prestigious...
 

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either way in two years im gunna have my AA and on to usf
i dont care about prestige all i want is my BA in civil engineering.
 

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good luck gettin in dude...
 

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THE IDMAX10 is comparable to the 10w7.

ON 500watts each (sealed enclosures)the w7 tends to be louder than the Idmax, but with a faster roll off.

The Idmax however extends much further into the midbass frequencies and hit the very low octaves with more authority than the w7...

When i tested both subs in enclosure ported at 28hz, the w7 was no where near the Max sq wise. It still was noticeably louder than the max, but no where near as accurate.

In enclosures ported at 30hz both subs were on par with each other with regards to output. The w7 being a tad but louder, the MAX still dominated in sq..

Step up the power on the IDmax and the output will be phenominal. The 10w7's however are limited to 500watts(Last time i checked).

I would say the IDmax is better sub mainly for sq setups or for persons with limited power or stock alternators ...

My test conditions weren't as ideal as they should be...but thats my 2 cents...


i would also look into

focal ,
diamond audio,
oz audio(elites)
rd audio,
audiopulse
incriminator audio
Stereo integrity

just to name a few
 

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good post. im glad some gave an actual answer to this guys question rather than spit off their favorite spl subs... lmao.
 

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people be hatin in this forum...
 

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Whats Better Than a 10w7?

A 10w7 covered in bacon!
 

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"people be hatin in this forum..."

Not gonna say names, but one dickweed is being retarded.
 

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Lets all get along now:-)
 

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Ehh I don't think any of those will beat it. You have to hear a W7 in a proper install to make any comparisons.

Only contenders I see are the RL-S, ID Max and TC-3000
 

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Ohh and I can't forget the JBL GTi MKII
 

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Dickweed haven't heard that in a while.


Drivingreckless

When did you hit 150?

What 15" was it?

What amp(s)?



mike

I also like the JBL GTi MKII but know body talks to much about them on here.


Michael Whittaker

Just Get a Fi 10"12"15" and put it on a 1000RMS and you will be happy.
 

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I'd get the JBL > Fi, I've owned both and know someone in florida thats owned both as well who shares the same opinion. The JBL is louder in SPL and better in SQ.
 

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thats all i was trying to say
 

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What a f.cking stupid thread.

You guys wonder why E gets knocked so much?
 

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cam, its a lot worse at CA...
 

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no. i know why e gets knocked all the time
 

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SO, um haha u guys kinda just all think differently. IF u had too pick one 10" sub under 750 watts what would that one be??
 

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I'm not getting this for competition, just for street listening and maybe to impress some friends. But i want the best all around sub
 

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i'd say either an idmax or jbl gti... maybe an rd alpha or elite v2
 

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Fi Q
 

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isnt Fi Q not in a 10"?
 

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nvm
 

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Under 750 watts? Tell us this, what amp do you have? Are you going to be running 1 or 2 10's?

Kevin
 

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the new RD Audio Elite would be nice, but they are hella exp.
 

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I don't have an amp yet, but i have a 70 amp alternator with 4 gauge wire through my car, and i don't want to pay a bunch of money to have an alternator upgrade, however i was going to do a big 3 upgrade. So i guessed around 750 watts would be as much as i could pull out of the system
 

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I was going to do one 10" of a class d amp
 

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Michael Whittaker are you Mathew Johnson?
 

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DO NOT get a Fi Q, so much better out there for the money.
 

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Like what?

Please tell me what is so much better than Fi for the money.
 

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JBL GTi, ID Max, OZ Audio Matrix Elite, JL 10W7 (Yes it is better IMO), TC 3000, Lightning Audio Storm [ TC-3000 based ], Phoenix Gold Elite

The Boston Acoustics G5 is up there also.

I've owned a Fi Q, nothing to brag about. Maybe compared to most brands that our available local. My RL-S beats the sh"t out of the Fi Q if comparing the lows.
 

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"I've owned a Fi Q, nothing to brag about. Maybe compared to most brands that our available local. My RL-S beats the sh"t out of the Fi Q if comparing the lows."

nice. that sub is a beast. it ain't low unless its rl-s low. lol.
 

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"it ain't low unless its rl-s low"

do i smell a new slogan for the rl-s?
 

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i dont really need to 10" but , it needs to be under 700 watts
 

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i was looking at the IDMAX, i think i might get ot, but will it be loud and have SQ? or just be loud?
 

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I would go with a 12" at least, but I can't really comment on the ID Max output rather than what I have heard and that is that the ID Max has nice output, but not as much as some of the other subs Mike listed. The SQ is supposed to be awesome though.
 

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Would i be louder and sound better with one sub at 750 watts?? or get 2 subs at like 300 rms each?
 

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2 subs. more cone area.

u can get 2 pioneer subs for pretty cheap. they get decently loud in the right box. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzd2ziJrDLA
 

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Yeah your subs looked really loud abarca, Would i be better off with that??

I want the loudest sh1t i can get without sounding like sh1t. My only limitations are a 70 amp alternator and 4 gauge wire, other than that whatever will get the loudest and still sound good.

Would a 10w7 or a IDMAX at 700 watts be louder and better than 2 12" xplods at 200 watts each or 2 10" L5 at 200 watts each?
 

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U cant compare the SQ of high end companies like Image dynamics or Jl audio with toys like sony..

The kickers would be the loudest(SPL)(more cone area.... While the IDMax would sound the most impressive....(SQ)

Do you need one sub, or two?

I would recommend Two 10DMAXV.3 on about 300 watts a piece due to your limitations.... or a single 12 inch IDMAX on 500 watts...


Kevin holder on this forum can hook you up a great deal on amplifiers....


If your really keen on SQL speak to Kevin about the single spider RD audio alphas, from what i heard they have very impressive SQL...

HE would be able to get you a matching amp and sub combo...
 

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for SQL leaning towards SPL i would get a treo SSI. they sound nice, get decently loud, are cheaper than your other options, and are rated for 750 watts exactly. i would get a 12 in that if you wanna save money. that or an RD alpha. if you don't care about the cash just get a 12 W7.
 

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2 of these.
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=4992

On one of these.
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16918
 

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Michael do you already have an amp? If so what is it?
 

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i can do two subs or one sub, whichever is better..so a 12w7 is the best, just way over priced?
 

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no amp, i was going to pick my amp based on my sub
 

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w7 is not the best. it is, however, one of the best with your power concerns. the W7 is a pretty darn efficient woofer that sounds damn good. i would look at a couple over IDQs with thats zx750.1 instead of the IDs. you could also go with a couple treo TSX 12s. that would sound nice and get pretty loud.
 

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Well I do have a JL 13w6v2 in a custom box which would be great in your install for 750 watts.

Would go perfect with that Kicker 06ZX750.1 Joey posted.

Let me know.
 

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i would say the zx750.1, being underrated, would be a little much for the w6 wouldn't it? it would definitely be in the danger zone.
 

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The 13w6v2 is rated at 750 watts rms.. check thier website
 

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oooh thats right they changed the ratings, my bad. i wasn't trying to stop him from buying i was just wondering.
 

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Yeah, just letting him know I have a sub that would be great in his situation, box already built, braced, and carpeted. Can give a killer price too.
 

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yeah that would be a really nice setup. you're starting to be the next chadly, mike.
 

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Username: Howtoeatapencil

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Registered: Mar-08
sounds like it would be great my only concern is im not to sure a 13" sub box would fit in my trunk, what are its dimensions rougly?
 

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Username: Denali_on_22s

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Post Number: 5045
Registered: Feb-06
it wouldn't have to be much bigger than the 12" box... if you c an fit a box for two 12s you can fit a box for 1 13.5
 

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Username: Mike11202

DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : , Sewell, NJ US

Post Number: 1626
Registered: Nov-06
It should fit in your trunk easy, Dimensions are 15" Height x 15" Width x 28.5" Length.

Barely takes up any room. When I had it in my Civic Coupe it left me with plenty.
 

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Username: Howtoeatapencil

Post Number: 19
Registered: Mar-08
ahh damn, i have 14.5" trunk clearance..haha that kinda sucks, especially cause its so close.
 

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Username: Howtoeatapencil

Post Number: 20
Registered: Mar-08
would two treo sx 12s at 350 rms each be louder than one 12w7 at 700 rms
 

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Username: Denali_on_22s

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Post Number: 5048
Registered: Feb-06
yes, but they are called tsx. btw, what kind of car do you have that only has 14.5 inches of trunk clearance?
 

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Username: Howtoeatapencil

Post Number: 21
Registered: Mar-08
toyota corolla, it has like this weird ridge thing deep in the trunk that is like a foot long, and only 14.5" tall and i want to be able tp push the box back into their cause its alot of space
 

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Username: Howtoeatapencil

Post Number: 23
Registered: Mar-08
im kinda torn between SPL and SQ, alot of kids at my school, have XPLODS and kickers installed and boom, and i got a small MTX sub and amp for $40 to add a little boom for a while, but i wnated to just show them what real subs sound like and be way louder, but then they can always have their daddy buy them more stuff, so i wanted to get good SQ, cause nnone will really have that, so it will be unique to me...what do u guys think is more important? SPL or SQ?
 

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Username: Drivingreckless

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Post Number: 5743
Registered: Apr-06
spl with a tad bit of sq.
 

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Username: 420alldaylong

Post Number: 3460
Registered: Sep-06
SQ or SPL thats on you.

What Kicker subs do they have?
 

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Username: 420alldaylong

Post Number: 3461
Registered: Sep-06
Drivingreckless


When did you hit 150?

What 15" was it?

What amp(s)?
 

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Username: Nyyfan13

15 MAG USA

Post Number: 9109
Registered: Jul-06
sq > spl in my book.
 

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Username: Howtoeatapencil

Post Number: 24
Registered: Mar-08
2 Kicker L5 10" Powered by the Sony Amp
and
2 Sony xplod 12" powered by the same amp, are the only subs at my school.

Last year there were two Alpine Types Xs in custom boxes, and they were really nice.
 

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Username: Jkidder

Gunshine , State Flawda

Post Number: 3432
Registered: Nov-05
x2
 

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Username: Howtoeatapencil

Post Number: 25
Registered: Mar-08
So best SQ? For My power? would that be the 10w7 or the 12w7? or maybe Soundsplinter?
 

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Username: Denali_on_22s

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Post Number: 5054
Registered: Feb-06
soundsplinter rl-s 12 ftw.
 

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Username: Tejcurrent

Post Number: 1242
Registered: Apr-07
^ nice sq sub. ID too.
If you want it to be unique I'd get something other than JL, just 'cause most the highschool kids I talk to think it's the best crap ever

I love SPL, because if someones louder it means I'm not doing something as good- and I just need to work on it. I recognize that some people WILL be louder on the meter, but they sacrifice any real low end- which mine does pretty well. SPL is so much more fun than sq, because most people wont recognize it and you have to almost become defensive- "That's nice, but you need more bass", reply"It's not supposed to be overpowering" Whatever man, my buddy has these kickers in a big ast box.."


I'd go SPL and show some people how it's done.
 

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Username: Bestmankind

Los Angeles, CA USA

Post Number: 19886
Registered: Oct-05
to me spl gets old fast unless you are competing. but you can always improve on sq.

but if there were more spl comps around here, i would still be in it.
 

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Username: Howtoeatapencil

Post Number: 28
Registered: Mar-08
SO good 12" sub at 1000 watts? I was thinking maybe IDMAX or Soundsplinter, for SQ? What do u guys think?? What would be good SPL choices for 1000 watts(still sound good) I dont want to sound liek the guy with the two L5s they just sound like poo
 

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Username: Treez

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Post Number: 316
Registered: Aug-06
Running a 1000watt bass amp and a component amp on a 70amp alt is really pushing it...

You definately need to AT LEAST perform the BIG 3 and put a battery in the trunk.

Until you've done that...your present limitations (space and amperage) shouild not go ignored. i think you're becoming overwhelmed with the advice you've recieved...

Plan ur budjet and work form there....

If u need best of both worlds and dont wanna look trendy, go with the single 12 inch alpha , treo's suggested or the IDmax....(with your present limitations)

If you really wanna sound impressive, buy 1 or 2 rl-s , TC, JBL, Alpha etc..and upgrade your alternator.. The size and number subs depends on your available enclosure space ..


Since Jl and kicker seems to be the dominant subs, then be different....

Again i re-emphasize...Pan your budjet..
 

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Username: Howtoeatapencil

Post Number: 29
Registered: Mar-08
is a component amp just the amp on the head unit?? I was going to have the bass amp be the only amp, and the US one was 84% efficient, and someone told me u need 40% for your car and 60% of the alternator can be for other stuff, so even with only the 84% efficent amp i wouldn't be able to run 1000 wattS?
 

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Username: Howtoeatapencil

Post Number: 32
Registered: Mar-08
What would be best off of this amp
US amps MD-2D
The most i can supply is 1000watts

w7

RD Alpha

SoundSplinter RL-p

SoundSplinter RL-s (this one requires alot more power than i can give i think 1000-2000rms)

IDMAX

I want SQL leaning more to SQ. And i have kinda narrowed it down to these subs. I like the IDMAX alot and the RL-s, but im not sure about the amount of power it needs, it probably would sound to great at 500RMS, which is what i would probably listen to it at.

Thanks for all the help so far guys! Can't wait to decide what i want and order it!
 

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Username: Howtoeatapencil

Post Number: 33
Registered: Mar-08
RL-s only has single 3 ohm voice coils, which would mean i could only run it at 750 watss with that amp :-( so i think it might be out of the question
 

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Username: Howtoeatapencil

Post Number: 34
Registered: Mar-08
and all 12"
 

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Username: Hurricanebr1an

Western Burbs of Chicago, IL Usa

Post Number: 398
Registered: Sep-07
gawd pick somethin lol

Ok for your car get a Kicker zx750.1.
http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/vpid/3141568/vpcsid/0 /SFV/30046

It runs 850wrms at 2 ohms.

It should be fine for you charging system.

Get a 1/0 gauge amp kit.

Then find a sub that you like that is Dual 4 ohm voice coils.

And then get a ported box made to spec.}
 

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Username: Howtoeatapencil

Post Number: 35
Registered: Mar-08
kinda doesnt answer my question..i just cant pick the sub!
 

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Username: Drant19

DUB-C, TX

Post Number: 659
Registered: Aug-07
the ALPHA would be the best choice, IMO. get it and then put up some vidzzz NOW
 

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Username: Denali_on_22s

I get Bucks like Milwa...

Post Number: 5164
Registered: Feb-06
go with a 12W7 if you got the cash. its a nice speaker you wont be disappointed. if you want to save cash get the treo ssi or a couple of treo tsx and they will be louder than both other systems.
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