Front Stage Options
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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan1315 MAG USA Post Number: 9025 Registered: Jul-06 | This summer I'll be upgrading my front stage to something better. Right now I have Crystal CPe components, and honestly, I think they are pretty nice for the price of $100. With that said, in some of the louder songs I listen to, the bass from the Mag drowns out my front stage so I want something that can hold its own. I'm leading my car in a direction geared towards SQ/SQL so I need some suggestions on some real nice and smooth sounding components. I don't have a budget right now but if I had to make one, I'd set the limit at about $500. I would like to run anywhere from 100-150rms to each speaker so that would be the rough power range. I have not chosen my new amp yet as that will be dependent on the components I choose. Anyone have any good suggestions for me to look at? Some of the ones I've been looking at so far include: http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=1141 http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=1164 http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=2975 http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=1182 (^are these the JBL components everyone was raging about a few weeks back??) http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=1138 And there are some other ones I've looked at but are unsure of and didn't want to post up here and clutter my post even more lol. Anyone have any other component speakers I should be looking at? Also I don't know much about a 3-way set-up but would that yield a better sounding front stage or should I just stick with a 2-way and keep it simple? |
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Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 3737 Registered: Mar-06 | Beyma Expeiance The new 08 comps. |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassSt. Louis, MO / ASU Post Number: 2523 Registered: Jul-05 | Yanks, If you wanna run a 3 way Id go with Hertz hi-energy 163 system. I can get them for you around your price range shipped. http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/Doc/pdf_hsk163.pdf Out of the ones you listed above i would go with the Dyns or JBLs. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 6994 Registered: Jul-06 | CDT HD With silk tweeter. |
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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan1315 MAG USA Post Number: 9027 Registered: Jul-06 | Its my understanding that I would need to build/buy kick pods for a 3-way system. As much as I would like to, I don't know if I would be allowed to do any mods to the doors because of m parents (they own/pay for the car). Is there anyway I could get around not having to mod my door and run a 3 way set-up? I don't know too much about 3 way set-ups. |
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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan1315 MAG USA Post Number: 9028 Registered: Jul-06 | These the ones MS? http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=1117 |
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Gold Member Username: Mike11202DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : , Sewell, NJ US Post Number: 1610 Registered: Nov-06 | Yanks you should stick with a 2-way. I owned the CDT Audio HD 62 set, I loved the mids but the tweeters (DRT-25 silk) didn't cut it out for me. My suggestions are Focal K2P, Pioneer 720 PRS and Dynaudio System 240 GT. I'm getting a new set soon so I'll let you know what I pick and how they sound. The amp I have is a JL Audio 300/2v2, very nice amp. I noticed a big sound difference when going from an eD nine.2x to the JL Audio 300/2v2 even though the eD did over 225 watts vs JL's 150, the JL was just as loud and sounded much better. |
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Silver Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 519 Registered: Aug-07 | Yes those are the JBL comps people been talking about. supposed to have insane midbass. ive actually been thinkin about gettin those. they sell for under 280shipped on ebay |
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Silver Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 520 Registered: Aug-07 | oh and i think the diamond HEX's would need more than 150rms to get the full potential out of them. |
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Gold Member Username: Mike11202DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : , Sewell, NJ US Post Number: 1611 Registered: Nov-06 | ehh don't go with the JBL's either, i heard they do have some serious midbass but they don't sound that great |
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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan1315 MAG USA Post Number: 9029 Registered: Jul-06 | Thanks for the input guys. Mike, definitely let me know what you get and how you like them. I'm awaiting Chad's review as well on his DLS'. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 6996 Registered: Jul-06 | That's the set Yanks. You said you wanted smooth, if there's one word to describe the HD-6 mid and DRT-25 tweeter that's it. Unless you're going to run active, I suggest you upgrade the crossover to the 560. It has a different x-over point that gives it a better sound. The only reason I haven't upgraded mine yet is im debating running active or not. |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 5922 Registered: Feb-06 | have you looked at id comps. yet? |
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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan1315 MAG USA Post Number: 9030 Registered: Jul-06 | I have not looked at ID comps actually. I'll take a look into them now though. MS, honestly, I don't know enough about running active vs. passive to know which one I should do. After just doing a little reading on passive vs active over on CA, it seems like going active is a lot of work and takes a bunch of time to get things right. I would like to run active but it just seems too much for me to handle. I'll probably just stick with running passive. |
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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan1315 MAG USA Post Number: 9031 Registered: Jul-06 | http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=3945 Seem kinda nice. Any chance anyone heard these or could compare these with the other comps listed above? |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 5923 Registered: Feb-06 | those ids' are extremely nice. one of the best sounding tweeters i've ever heard. nice and warm, not harsh at all. nice midbass also. definately as good if not better as some other companies comp. sets that cost more. |
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Gold Member Username: Big_edge_headMilwaukee, Wisconsin MY SUBS GET ... Post Number: 1742 Registered: Mar-07 | Your thread is weird Yanks... For some reason every time I open this thread it sends me right to the bottom of the thread. |
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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan1315 MAG USA Post Number: 9034 Registered: Jul-06 | Sorry to hear that Steven. Maybe it just wanted you to post something lol. CtMike, thanks for the input on those. I completely overlooked the ID comps for no reason at all. Just kinda slipped my mind I guess. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 7001 Registered: Jul-06 | Then I would get those HD's with the upgraded 560 crossover. |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 4832 Registered: Nov-05 | for anyone saying jbl gtis don't sound good.. go listen to a pair installed properly.. wow  i'd recommend you getting the jbl gtis.. under $300 shipped the focals are not very warm if you want to spend the money do the dynaudio or look into a dls comp set.. you can get the nobeliums ebay price for $525ish + shipping.. i run those and they are amazing |
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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan1315 MAG USA Post Number: 9041 Registered: Jul-06 | I think I'm really leaning towards the JBL's right now. I've read some reviews on them and they seem quite nice. And the price tag is friendly lol. How much power should I give these comps? 150? 200? 200+? Right now, I'm looking at either the JL 300/2 and give them 150 each or the JBL PX600.2 and give them 180 each. Comments? Recommendations? |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindHttp://www.rdaudio.net... Post Number: 19607 Registered: Oct-05 | the dls destroys the focal yanks. i had the utopias and the dls destroys it. anways out of the choices up there, i'd go with the dynaudio. that is if you are like me and don't like loud tweeters cause you won't get those with the dynaudio. thats what the sales guy told me about them. |
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Platinum Member Username: BestmankindHttp://www.rdaudio.net... Post Number: 19610 Registered: Oct-05 | btw kevin, only seller selling the dls nobelium on ebay is indoaudio. lol. |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audib... Post Number: 1569 Registered: Mar-07 | Yanks, get a pair of Boston z6 :D |
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Gold Member Username: FrkkevinResonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email Post Number: 4838 Registered: Nov-05 | oh nvm the dls ebay lmao.. the jbl gtis will be great on 180rms |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sI get Bucks like Milwa... Post Number: 4855 Registered: Feb-06 | Hwx FTW. I love mine. The tweets are so crisp and colorful and the speakers just love any kind of music you throw at them. |
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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan1315 MAG USA Post Number: 9043 Registered: Jul-06 | I'm sorry Reece, what are "Hwx's" Lol. Just kidding. NIck, have you got those Z6 installed yet? |
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Silver Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 526 Registered: Aug-07 | hey i say get the GTI's...i want a pair really bad. i think they would be a massive step up from my infinity comps lol |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sI get Bucks like Milwa... Post Number: 4866 Registered: Feb-06 | Azz, haha. I sware though the Hex don't play. |
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Silver Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 529 Registered: Aug-07 | hows the midbass on them HEXs Reece B???havent ever heard a set... |
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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan1315 MAG USA Post Number: 9045 Registered: Jul-06 | They don't play?!? Thats ashame cause I thought they were supposed to play I'm just being an azz Reece. I have given thought to the HEX's. But I don't know how I feel running 200+ to each. |
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Silver Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 534 Registered: Aug-07 | u dont HAVE to run 200 to them. watch that gain n volume nob son! |
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sI get Bucks like Milwa... Post Number: 4870 Registered: Feb-06 | nah just run ~200 and they will sound nice. The midbass could best be described and crisp as well. seems like they are made for blending into the substage because the midbass is not overwhelming at all... the tweets are so nice though. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 7049 Registered: Jul-06 | Midbass is 90% dependant on installation. Using the same speakers, someone who does a proper installation will have drastically better results than someone who just sticks the speaker in their door. |
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