Crunch?!?!?!?!
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 520 Registered: Aug-06 | i was reading on another forum that crunch amps are about the same quality as hifonics. i was looking at the Pzi3000.1D. it claims 3000 @ 1 ohm. should i try it? |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 5295 Registered: Jul-06 | link to this amp. They are made by the same company as hifonics so they are probably so-so quality and overrated. |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 521 Registered: Aug-06 | i only need a clean 2000 rms out of it but i am still skeptical it will even do that. not sure on the fuse rating either. they were also saying power acoustik would do rated power as well. |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 522 Registered: Aug-06 | http://cgi.ebay.com/New-CRUNCH-PZi3000-1D-3000-WATT-CLASS-D-MONO-AMPLIFIER_W0QQi temZ270201980606QQihZ017QQcategoryZ64570QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Post Number: 2608 Registered: Aug-06 | god, it says 2000 watts MAXX, then you get the specs and they are: 750 Watts x 1 @ 4 Ohm 1500 X 1 @ 2 Ohm 3000 x 1 @ 1 Ohm Dynamic Music Powers and those amp are overrated so whats all that mean? seriously though, the other crunch 3000 watt amps looked nice. the silver ones. pornstar on CA.com had like 8 for some comp vehicle, i think. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 5298 Registered: Jul-06 | First off all that is probably a max rating. They it says 2000 max on the box? At that price I'd be surprised if that amp did a real 1000w RMS....... |
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Gold Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 3158 Registered: Sep-06 | If going with Crunch go with the GP sreies. |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 524 Registered: Aug-06 | well the picture they used is of a different amp idk y they put that pic up. |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 525 Registered: Aug-06 | im just looking for a decent price for 2000 clean watts. i figured if it says 3000 it should do at least 2000 but idk im think about the PA SL-2600D that acually says rms next to the rating granted its probably at 17 volts haha. i might just wind up biting the bullet and getting the BXi2006D. |
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Gold Member Username: CblazeRock island, Tenesssee Us Post Number: 1365 Registered: Sep-07 | if u want 2000 watts cheap get the power accoustik a3000db |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 526 Registered: Aug-06 | 300 shipped. and it says its 2300 rms. i like alot!! |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Post Number: 2610 Registered: Aug-06 | theres good pics in this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/CRUNCH-PZI3000-1D-3000W-CLASS-D-MONO-AMPLIFIER-AMP-NEW_W0QQi temZ130188794581QQihZ003QQcategoryZ64570QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem it is a nice looking amp. but its straight up maxxsonics to the eyes if you have been in the game for awhile. i dont think they make 2000rms either. |
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Gold Member Username: CblazeRock island, Tenesssee Us Post Number: 1366 Registered: Sep-07 | there is alot of ppl saying the power accoustik a3000db do there power,ive seen videos of the pushing atleast 2k. |
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Bronze Member Username: Davidt487Texas Post Number: 80 Registered: Dec-07 | ive got a great looking bxi2006d im not really using if you want it make me an offer |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Post Number: 2611 Registered: Aug-06 | well, to me, the PA amp does slightly powerful. i bet its more powerful than that crunch. and i dont like either brand, so its not a biased opinion... |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Post Number: 2612 Registered: Aug-06 | http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/Power_Acoustik_A3000dB/inside1.jpg power acoustics guts... |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 528 Registered: Aug-06 | david, whats the condition of that BXi and what kind of power will it put down @ 12 volts? |
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Gold Member Username: CblazeRock island, Tenesssee Us Post Number: 1367 Registered: Sep-07 | look at the inside of the amp lol.where else u gonna find a amp built like that for the price thats new |
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Gold Member Username: MixmastaspigCanada, Canada Canada Post Number: 1401 Registered: Sep-05 | These people sound like they swear by Crunch/Hifonics. They look kinda cheap to me, and they rate at max ratings. They can take up to 16.4volts but for an everyday user creating more than 14.4 is out of the question....check the link out and I quoted some for an added bonus. "You would not believe how strong they are! The 3000D pro has retard power. It's unbelievable!" "The GP2500D made 1328 watts at 12.8 volts and 1704 watts at 14.75. These test were also at a 1ohm reactive" "The 1500 made 857 watts at 13 volts, but a whopping 1189 at 15.5 volts. This was at 1.1 ohm reactive and all of that power is usable" If you need a cheaper amp they should do the job, just don't expect too much from them! |
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Bronze Member Username: Davidt487Texas Post Number: 81 Registered: Dec-07 | its in great shape ive only had a couple weeks i dont know the true rated power is |
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Gold Member Username: Sinful_systems7015 INCH WANG... Post Number: 1128 Registered: Nov-06 | Hifonics>Crunch ... JMO |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 529 Registered: Aug-06 | well the thing is if im going to get the sx's and put them in a small ported box then im gonna want all the power i can throw at them i know that the pair will handle 2500 all day espichally in my box not to mention that i am probably going to overdrive the sh1t out of my port. but if i can give them 2300 that should still be pretty decent. honestly though does anyone think that this PA amp is going to last very long putting out 2300 rms daily?? thats really all i care about is being able to put down the rated power consistently and doing that as cheaply as possible. |
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Gold Member Username: Sinful_systems7015 INCH WANG... Post Number: 1129 Registered: Nov-06 | Hifonics BXi2607D |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 530 Registered: Aug-06 | david i sent you a pm. |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Post Number: 2615 Registered: Aug-06 | hard to say but i would get the PA out of the rest we are talking about. ive always thought those 2300dbs were beefy for power acoustic. there is alot of stuff packed onto that board. like 25+ capacitors. makes the hifonics 2000d board look nekked... |
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Gold Member Username: CblazeRock island, Tenesssee Us Post Number: 1370 Registered: Sep-07 | hifonics is ineffecient to,the pa has 4x40 amp fuses |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 531 Registered: Aug-06 | the 2607 is too much money but and ideal amp for my application. |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 532 Registered: Aug-06 | i might as well just get the pa then theres no way i can beat 2300 rms for 300 shipped. although it is terribly ugly and it is going to be mounted on my rear decklid so idk. also the PA dosnt have rca outputs so i cant slave my kicker off of it  . will 2 rca splitters work to allow me to send the sub signal from my hu into 2 different amps without losing signal quality? |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Post Number: 2616 Registered: Aug-06 | whats the kicker amp for? door speakers? do you have more than 1 set of rca jacks on the back of the head unit or is that factory? i was just thinking also, the sundown 1500d is an awesome amp it may be a tad bit underrated while the PA is a tad overrated which would make them kinda similar in power if all of the specs were right. and they are both about as packed under the heatsinks. that PA is kinda ugly too...  you want a powerhouse? get a used IA 20.1 for like 50 or so more $$$... sundown  power acoustic  |
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Gold Member Username: Sinful_systems7015 INCH WANG... Post Number: 1130 Registered: Nov-06 | SUNDOWN!!! NICE!!!!!! |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 536 Registered: Aug-06 | the kicker is used to power my 6x9's in the rear deck, my CDT EF8's also in the rear deck, and my infinity kappa 60.7cs in my doors and sails. there are 3 sets of rca's off of my hu 1 for front right and left, 1 for rear right and left and then one set for subs. with my pg amp i ran the one set from the HU in into my PG but it had outputs too so i ran RCA's from the output of my PG into the sub input of my kicker. the sundown is only 1500rms and way out of my price range. Unless you have a secret place where you can pick them up for 300 shipped. that incriminator is only rated @ 1800 rms and $50 is just too much for me plus for $50 it opens up even more amp choices im sure. i am already prob going to go $100 over budget for my subs hahaha. |
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Gold Member Username: CblazeRock island, Tenesssee Us Post Number: 1373 Registered: Sep-07 | look heres a vid of the a3000db pushing 2 15 inch sx's sealed.it would bang the crap out out of 2 12 inch sx's ported http://realmofexcursion.com/videos/REAudio/sx15.25.wmv |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 539 Registered: Aug-06 | damn thats serious. should i expect to hit 140 db with this? |
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Gold Member Username: Naledge503Http://www.LowDownForu... Post Number: 2646 Registered: Jun-06 | "also the PA dosnt have rca outputs" It does. I own 2 of them. I'm selling one of them.. https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/for-sale/429800.html |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Post Number: 2618 Registered: Aug-06 | "that incriminator is only rated @ 1800 rms" you havent been doing the car audio thing for long, eh? i called it a powerhouse for a reason.  |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Post Number: 2619 Registered: Aug-06 | and that amp is like 2 feet long instead of 1 foot like all these other amps in here... this amp, by very far, exeeds these amps in this thread for just $50 more. that amp is more powerful than two of all of these amps almost. very underrated... |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 544 Registered: Aug-06 | where can i find one for 350 shipped??? what kind of power will it actually put down at 1 ohm? |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana 2 DD3515s, 2... Post Number: 5800 Registered: Mar-04 | I'll put my stamp on an IA20.1 Look over on Ca.com classifieds, they pop up for $400-$425shipped over there from time to time. |
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Silver Member Username: Pbplayer05Carroll, Iowa Post Number: 222 Registered: May-07 | get a md3d from woofersect by using the price match thing for the prices at ikesound it prolly will get u close to what u want and when u do that there like 365 |
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Gold Member Username: CblazeRock island, Tenesssee Us Post Number: 1379 Registered: Sep-07 | thats what im doing |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 545 Registered: Aug-06 | that only has a 90 amp fuse rating how will it do 2000 rms? also how is the opti2000D i founf a good deal for a refurb but will it put down the kind of power im looking for its says 1600rms @ 1 ohm buts its .5 ohm stable and it also has 6x30amp fuses. |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Post Number: 2622 Registered: Aug-06 | theres two 20.1s on CA.com for 350 or 375 shipped apiece. the 20.1s will do .5 ohm all day, too. thats actually what i meant when i was mentioning how powerful it was. the amp can burp at .25 ohm i believe and at a higher voltage, too. at that time, you can see up around 3000ish watts. ive heard of some really incredible amounts of power from one or two strapped but theres alot of talk. badazz amps though. "that only has a 90 amp fuse rating how will it do 2000 rms?" haha. as far as the 20.1 though, there is no fuse, you will need an external 200 amp ANL fuse. that comes with most 1/0 wiring kits... |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 558 Registered: Aug-06 | that 90 amp fuse rating i was talking about was for the md3d which i got off of woofersetc and i realize now that it is a missprint i beleive it actually has 6 40 amp fuses though. Is the IA going to be too much for 2 SX 12's? If you could send me the link to that amp that would be great. |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Post Number: 2625 Registered: Aug-06 | it wont be too much if your gains are good... its caraudio.com - classifieds. ill be back to see if you found it, i gotta run for just a few minutes... |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 559 Registered: Aug-06 | yea i think i found it. i actually found a couple but it seems that all of the rca's are broken or loose. |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Post Number: 2626 Registered: Aug-06 | http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282283 |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Post Number: 2627 Registered: Aug-06 | well, actually, i think both of those are sold now... |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Post Number: 2629 Registered: Aug-06 | either way, there are quite afew good amps to choose from out there. |
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Silver Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 562 Registered: Aug-06 | honestly though that amp is pretty big to mount on my deck lid anyways. |
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