Silver Member Username: TornPost Number: 189 Registered: Jan-07 | where should the red top and yellow top be? red top up front under the hood and yellow in the trunk, or yellow up front in the hood and red in trunk? and will there be any complications with the battery since their different tops? |
Silver Member Username: TornPost Number: 190 Registered: Jan-07 | bump lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJPx1Z28_Io |
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New member Username: Bass_enjoyerPost Number: 7 Registered: Jun-07 | Well, if you are going to use those two batteries, I would put the red top under the hood and the yellow top in the trunk. The red top is a starter battery and the yellow top is a deep cycle. The difference in their internal resistances would cause one to discharge the other, so you might want to look into a battery isolator or relay. More information on this can be found in the Accessories forums or on google. I think a better bet would be to get two yellow tops with the closest manufactured dates possible, then you wouldn't have to worry about it. Even better than that would be 2 Kinetik batteries. Just my opinion though, there are better options than this. |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin4 10 Pioneer... Post Number: 12380 Registered: Jul-05 | ^^^good advice - use 2 of the same model batts i myself have 2 yellows ... |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 3435 Registered: Jul-06 | And even better than that would an Odyssey battery . Ya really don't need 2. |
Silver Member Username: TornPost Number: 193 Registered: Jan-07 | hmm i decided to go now with either a red top and a kinetik hc800(already baught the kinetiks) or and Interstate battery along with the kinetiks. So whats a batter choice? interstate or red top for under the hood? and is the kinetiks any good? |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 3437 Registered: Jul-06 | You cant run different batteries without an isolator, and then you get voltage drop if you do use one, AND your audio system is still only running on ONE battery. Just put one good battery in there. In my expierence and people I knows expierence, Odyssey > Kinetik > Optima |
Silver Member Username: TornPost Number: 195 Registered: Jan-07 | Ok while reading about isolators on bcae1 i am confusing myself with a hang over do i really need one? and where can i buy one? on bcae after the explain about the 2 types of isolators; they then show how to connect two batteries without isolators and am now confused of why i need one from that point. http://www.bcae1.com/battiso.htm |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 3445 Registered: Jul-06 | You need the isolator if you want to run 2 different batteries. If two batteries that are not exactly identical are wired together they will "fight" each other, and you will end up with 2 dead batteries. If you run 1 battery you obviously dont need the isolator. Next point, isolators are basically a bank of diodes which allow current to flow one way and not the other. Diodes have resistance, which causes voltage loss. Meaning your system will run at a slightly lower voltage than if there were no isolator. Lower voltage = less power from amplifiers. Do ya see now why I've been saying to just run 1 battery? |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 3446 Registered: Jul-06 | About the 2 types of isolators, most are the diode type. The solenoid type are known to be rather unreliable. |
Silver Member Username: RenegadesrunLafayette, IN US Post Number: 970 Registered: Oct-04 | where should the red top and yellow top be? Garbage? Better bateries can be had for the space requirement who's stats far exceed those of the Optimas....Red, Yellow, or wtfe they come up with. Comparably priced. |
Silver Member Username: TornPost Number: 196 Registered: Jan-07 | Where would i buy one? (autozone or something? and are they pricey? |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 5398 Registered: Jul-06 | The only thing about the Odyssey batteries is that they cost a pretty penny. |
Silver Member Username: RenegadesrunLafayette, IN US Post Number: 973 Registered: Oct-04 | If your referring to the Optima's, and if there was no previous reply? Autozone, and no, they are priced less than you would expect. Which matches the performance rating to a T...which is..less than you would expect. |
Silver Member Username: TornPost Number: 198 Registered: Jan-07 | Where would i buy one? (autozone or something? and are they pricey? |
Silver Member Username: TornPost Number: 199 Registered: Jan-07 | i mean the how much does a isolator cost? and do i need to get a certain one that has certain specs on it? and would they be able to accept 4awg wires? |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 3453 Registered: Jul-06 | " The only thing about the Odyssey batteries is that they cost a pretty penny. " That they do, but when I last looked, Kinetiks were about the same prices. summitracing.com had the best price when I bought mine. |
Silver Member Username: TornPost Number: 200 Registered: Jan-07 | man i compared to isolators and damn they compare to how much a battery cost's. what i'm getting at is why they cost as much as a premium battery? like i asked before "i mean the how much does a isolator cost? and do i need to get a certain one that has certain specs on it? and would they be able to accept 4awg wires?" no one answered lol! but yea, at thrifty's; the only one they got cost 100$+++. And at baxter's 60 amperage of the item cost 69$+30$ on wiring -_-, so yea!~!!! there any cheaper? |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 3463 Registered: Jul-06 | Yeah thats about what they cost. Now if you'd just run 1 battery you wouldnt be having this problem......... but no ya apparently can't do it the easy way |
Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6803 Registered: Jun-04 | M.S. not to but in but would a odessey be better than a batcap 800 my bro's talkin bout buyin a batcap 800...no isolator needed on them |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 3468 Registered: Jul-06 | I don't know of anyone running Batcap so I couldn't really say. This is not personal experience, but I have heard from others that the Batcaps are usually not as effective as a Odyssey/Singer/Kinetik of the same physical size. I have seen ALL of the above brands including Batcap used in competition though, so who knows. |
Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6804 Registered: Jun-04 | ok thanks |
Silver Member Username: TornPost Number: 202 Registered: Jan-07 | went to napa and checked their isolators out they had a 95 amp one for 38$ but i saw a dent on it, so the guy told me they had a 120amp one and he'll give me good price for it, originally the 120 amp one costs 89$ there so he types some funky computer thing in and gave me a discount on it for 58$, gonna go pick it up prolly in a few days. |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Northwest PA Post Number: 3481 Registered: Jul-06 | What size alternator do you have? The isolator has to be rated the same or higher than the alt. |
Silver Member Username: TornPost Number: 203 Registered: Jan-07 | yea it all cool figured that out after you posted about that, Baxters auto parts were selling a 68 amp one for 63$ and napa sold 95 amps one for 38$ and with discount a 120 amp one for 58$ with the discount and my alt only gives out 70-80 amps so yea. Gonna go with that a great deal in price diffrentials. |