Deep base in sealed box
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Silver Member Username: SomedonniedudePost Number: 109 Registered: May-07 | I have 2 12s in a sealed box and I was wanting a lil more deep base. Will filing the box with more wood make the base hit deeper? I thought about going ported becouse I want it louder but that will make me lose the deep notes even more. I dont care a whole lot about sound quality, I just want it loud and deep without switching to 15s. |
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Silver Member Username: B3n07Louisville, Ky USA Post Number: 197 Registered: Jul-07 | no dont put more wood in the box put the filler stuff in there i forgot what its called |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 9257 Registered: Jun-06 | What do you mean filling with more wood? Reducing the box size with wood? I would go ported since SQ isn't your concern. |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 9258 Registered: Jun-06 | It's called damping material or fiberfill. http://web.archive.org/web/20020808224043/integra.cyberglobe.net/caraudio/resour ces/fiberfill/ Thanks Sean.  |
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Silver Member Username: SomedonniedudePost Number: 110 Registered: May-07 | So would fiberfill help out on my deeper notes AND overall make it louder? For example- like the song "late nite tip" (everyone know it so thats why i chose it) there is only 3 main base notes. On the first not (slightley higher that the second and third) my subs hit pretty hard, second note a lot quieter and last (deepest note) wont even hit it. Will that fiber fill make those notes sound better or am i SOL? |
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Gold Member Username: Safe_crackerChicago, IL US Post Number: 3301 Registered: Jan-06 | In a sealed box they should all hit somewhat the same. Check your amplifier settings and make sure your Hi-pass or subsonic filter for your sub amp is OFF. A subsonic filter is used mainly in ported enclosures, technically a sealed enclosure should hit 20hz... JMHO Polo. |
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Silver Member Username: B3n07Louisville, Ky USA Post Number: 200 Registered: Jul-07 | if i had the subsonice filter on could this be the reason my subs are cutting out and songs that ht reall hard for a while like Soulja Boys stop den snap |
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Platinum Member Username: James1115Use a simple... Post Number: 10161 Registered: Dec-04 | stop den snap????????? what does that mean???? if your SS filter is on it will act as a hp cutoff at whatever frequency it is set to. If it is set to 30 then nothing under 30hz will play. polyfill/fiberfill will help on the deeper notes a little bit because they trick the sub into making the sub think it is in a larger enclosure provided the SS filter is off, if it is on then nothing will help you hit the low notes unless you turn it off. what is your system? amp? sub? box size? |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin4 10 Pioneer... Post Number: 11951 Registered: Jul-05 | hey u want loud without caring about SQ then simplest solution would be buy 2 4" aeroports & tune it 40hz .... |
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Platinum Member Username: James1115Use a simple... Post Number: 10164 Registered: Dec-04 | there you go^ whats been good Rovin my man? |
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Silver Member Username: B3n07Louisville, Ky USA Post Number: 202 Registered: Jul-07 | i have 2 kicker cvr 10s with a hifonics 606.1 BXI amp |
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Silver Member Username: SomedonniedudePost Number: 111 Registered: May-07 | 2 12" concept HZs, sealed box (1.25 cubes p/chamber), rockford p6002 amp. i just dont really want to put too much money into this setup becuz its temporary. Just wanting somemore bang for not much buck. |
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Platinum Member Username: James1115Use a simple... Post Number: 10168 Registered: Dec-04 | I am not sure what the enclosure spec's are on that sub I couldnt find them anywhere SomeDon. Do you have them wired to 1 ohm or 4ohms on that amp? do you know the enclosure recc specs? |
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Silver Member Username: B3n07Louisville, Ky USA Post Number: 203 Registered: Jul-07 | i have them wired to 1 ohm and the specs on my box is .8 or 1.0 i cant remeber but its one of them |
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Platinum Member Username: James1115Use a simple... Post Number: 10174 Registered: Dec-04 | Ben what are you talking about? I was talking to the other guy. I have no idea what you are asking! I don't know what stop den snap means my friend so I can't help you out until you speak in English what your problem is. |
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Silver Member Username: B3n07Louisville, Ky USA Post Number: 206 Registered: Jul-07 | Stop den snap is a song that hits really hard on a system ok its from a person called soulja boy ok now my problem is my subs keep cuting out on me when ever i play a couple of songs in a row that the bass hits really hard |
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Platinum Member Username: James1115Use a simple... Post Number: 10177 Registered: Dec-04 | sounds like your amp is cutting out not your subs. Is your amp hot when this happens? |
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Silver Member Username: B3n07Louisville, Ky USA Post Number: 207 Registered: Jul-07 | yeah it does get pretty hot but i thought that was normal. But also when it does this i was able to check my amp once when it did it and it still had the power light on |
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Silver Member Username: SomedonniedudePost Number: 112 Registered: May-07 | I have no idea what size box the concepts should go into. I cant find it anywhere. It does say frequency response 30-250 tho. Im just gonna have to experiment with some sort of box filling and see what happens. When the subs hit those low note they make an odd sound, almost like they are bottoming out, but theyre not. |
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Silver Member Username: B3n07Louisville, Ky USA Post Number: 208 Registered: Jul-07 | ok not to steal your thread but i have the same stuff basicaly as this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7wgybPDaos how can i get mine to do the same |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 4965 Registered: Feb-06 | not to steal his thread?? that's all you've done! start your own thread. not only would it be curtious to the original poster, but you'll probably also get more help since everyone wont be confusing the two topics. just a thought. |
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Silver Member Username: JtownPost Number: 222 Registered: Mar-07 | ^^^ thief!!!! |
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Bronze Member Username: ImnothereimjustvisitingPost Number: 65 Registered: Aug-07 | ^^^ post wh0re!!!!! |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3Post Number: 6612 Registered: Feb-06 | u got 3 options... buy a pair of 4 inch eroports cut the holes and tuen yoru set up to 36hz-34hz for DEEP BASS buy some fiberfill and try to put it in the box... it iwll make the box act bigger in sealed and going bigger means more lower extension or DEEP BASS make another box... |
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Bronze Member Username: EvoixmrPost Number: 57 Registered: Aug-07 | SomeDonnieDude: I've never used the polyfill stuff before, but from what I here it tricks your subs into thinking the box is bigger at the sacrifice of volume. Something about how the polyfill dicipates the heat your subs will acually be less loud with the polyfill. |
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Silver Member Username: JtownPost Number: 227 Registered: Mar-07 | we all have our own way of living jogle, deal with it!!! |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6171 Registered: Jun-04 | It's called damping material or fiberfill. Paul Larrea.... "http://web.archive.org/web/20020808224043/integra.cyberglobe.net/caraudio/resour ces/fiberfill/ Thanks Sean." your welcome |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6172 Registered: Jun-04 | rovin....."hey u want loud without caring about SQ then simplest solution would be buy 2 4" aeroports & tune it 40hz ...." Just for the record I hate 40 hz tuned boxes you miss so much bass in the music....it drives me crazy......my bro's box is tuned to 35 hz and on ocassion I hear notes I want to hear but the box cant play because its tuned to high im thinking 32 hz is more to my tastes now but it does play up to 56 hz well so cant complain there |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6173 Registered: Jun-04 | Th3Vir3s ....."I've never used the polyfill stuff before, but from what I here it tricks your subs into thinking the box is bigger at the sacrifice of volume. Something about how the polyfill dicipates the heat your subs will acually be less loud with the polyfill." actually I used polfill in one of our boxes an it went from 45-46 hz port tune to a 39 hz port tune which means it did boost the airspace the subwoofer saw and it not only sounded better it was louder too....we verified it on our spl meter before and after fiberfill |
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Silver Member Username: LuisdelbronxBronx, NY USA Post Number: 181 Registered: Jan-06 | How much louder? im going to do this when i get back to ny. thanks |
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Platinum Member Username: James1115Use a simple... Post Number: 10234 Registered: Dec-04 | it will smooth out the bottoming out that you describe in a sealed enclosure. It wont make a huge difference but it will be noticeably smoother. To get a radical difference in a sealed enclosure you need to boost the size or cut the size by .5cu/ft or better. in ported it is much different and slight change will have a dramatic effect. |
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