TC sounds price increase
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New member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 7 Registered: Jul-07 | If this has already been posted, i apologize. In the next few weeks TC sounds will be increasing there prices 30-50% across the board (drivers, recones, etc) It sucks, but it doesn't seem to many on this forum use them anyways... |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1866 Registered: Aug-06 | whoa, i just commented on tc in my destroyer thread. i hate tc now... |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbFarmington, Nm Usa Post Number: 2207 Registered: Nov-04 | did they give a reason for the price increase? sems like everyone is raising prices |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 11 Registered: Jul-07 | No reason given, unfortunately... i have my theories, but they are just that...theories |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 8278 Registered: Jun-06 | This sounds a tad fishy. A 50% increase on a big mac is crazy, let alone an $800 sub. I can't see any benifit in scaring any potential consumer away even further. |
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Silver Member Username: Mike11202Sewell, NJ US Post Number: 787 Registered: Nov-06 | Yeah thats a ridiculous jump in price, I was gonna try their subs out in the future but I guess I won't be after that increase. |
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Silver Member Username: Mike11202Sewell, NJ US Post Number: 788 Registered: Nov-06 | hmmm maybe its just a marketing strategy  |
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Bronze Member Username: MrogowskiPost Number: 61 Registered: May-07 | "hmmm maybe its just a marketing strategy" If its a marketing strategy they should go back to marketing school.  |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 13 Registered: Jul-07 | Paul- I'm sorry if you don't believe me.. http://www.tcsounds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1415&st=0 There is the proof for ya.. i should have put it in the original post... as i posted in the linked thread- my personal guesses as to what it may be are- 1. cost of raw materials is ALWAYS on the rise (from raw metal, all the way down to spiders) 2. maybe to "help" the companies they oem out to be more competitive in pricing 3. to help build up stock a little bit 4. to move closer to the brick and mortar retailers i believe they were interested in (if i remember correctly, please excuse me if i am mistaken) lots of reasons it could be.. or i could be way off base and its none of these  also- it should be mentioned that tc is first and foremost a build house for several other companies. at the price that tc was selling drivers, they were not making much profit, and severely under-cutting there oem clients. that cannot continue forever. Also- they have several new drivers in the works (nice ones, i should say...) and they seem to want to go in a whole new direction... It is a shame, but it will be interesting to see what pans out in the near future |
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Silver Member Username: Mike11202Sewell, NJ US Post Number: 790 Registered: Nov-06 | When you think about it thats a great strategy to pressure people into buying their products. You have to agree thats a very drastic change in price. I could be wrong but who knows. |
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Gold Member Username: AdddisorderWest palm, Florida Post Number: 4808 Registered: Jan-06 | eh f u ck em anyway. |
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Gold Member Username: Adam_sPost Number: 1604 Registered: Aug-04 | Ehh I havent been a fan of TC sounds for a while. Ever since I heard about them trying to d1ck around Soundsplinter and all that I just havent been all about them even though they do make nice subs. |
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Bronze Member Username: MrogowskiPost Number: 62 Registered: May-07 | No to mention Oaudio... |
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Silver Member Username: YukhuiMyrtle Beach, South Carolina USA Post Number: 498 Registered: Jan-06 | Most people on the forum probably didn't buy TC because they were too dam,n expensive in the first place. |
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Gold Member Username: Matt12490California USA Post Number: 2525 Registered: May-05 | TC sounds and Eclipse are practically the same company correct? Do you know if the eclipse prices will raise too?? |
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Gold Member Username: Safe_crackerChicago, IL US Post Number: 3001 Registered: Jan-06 | Not only expensive, most of there motors used the extreme BL ratings anyways which limited there use to SQ/sealed setups while they did have subs suitable for ported enclosures they really lacked overall performance over much cheaper units. To boost marketing they tried fluffing there products with sensless gimicks like the titanium cones, tried to buy one and they basically talked me out of it, later on found out they were unavailable even though you could still purchase them on-line. Overall I think the company is a little odd and honestly they may not want anymore orders because they might be losing there shirts... JMHO..Polo.. PS- Also, do you think that heavy @ss basket is cheap to make? |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 14 Registered: Jul-07 | Rearrange- eclipse hasnt had tc sounds as a buildhouse for a while.. you dont have to worry about there prices rising.. BTW- pole- i know EXACTLY how much that heavy @ss basket costs. i buy them at cost |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 8281 Registered: Jun-06 | Ok vistor, enough of this. Who are you lol? I kinda gotta agree with Mike's angle here. I'm thinking maybe TC is sending out these "notices" as feelers and maybe to force the hand on those undecided. We'll see in a couple weeks what their hand is as well as possibly their fate. |
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Gold Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 2237 Registered: Dec-06 | How can you raise prices on things you don't even have in stock to sell? I am going to have to drive down there and have a talk with those boys again. |
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Gold Member Username: Adam_sPost Number: 1605 Registered: Aug-04 | TC sounds=Ghey |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 15 Registered: Jul-07 | Paul- I assure you that I have no affiliation with tc Mrogowski(owner of Mach 5) knows me, as do many other business owners, and people on the various forums. I am just a consumer who builds Subwoofers for fun.. I have worked with tc rather extensively on some projects for myself, though, and i know a little bit of the background, i cannot, however, disclose any of the stuff that i know (and it would be in bad taste to do so)I'm sorry if i have offended anyone...anyone who goes to the other forums has probably seen me and my collection, but for those who don't, and have doubts- here is my collection... http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000558.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000557.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000409.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000510.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000509.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000506.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000423.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000241.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000242-1.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000867.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000864.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000863.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000862.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000861.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000859.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000856.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000855.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000853.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000852.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000858.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/IM000857.jpg that's a good portion of my stuff (about half of it) I'm just a consumer i hope that clears it up? |
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Gold Member Username: Adam_sPost Number: 1610 Registered: Aug-04 | Visitor do you sell any of those subs you make?? And what kinda specs do they have? |
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Bronze Member Username: MrogowskiPost Number: 63 Registered: May-07 | Not so ghey anymore eh? Visitor has quite the selection of goodies. I'm sure if he wanted to he could whip something up for you real special. |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 16 Registered: Jul-07 | Steinke- Generally- i do it for myself. i do, on occasion make them for others, though... as far as specs.. i have the equipment to run T/S parameters on its way to me, so i will be able to run the full T/S parameters, and box designs, etc.. |
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Gold Member Username: Safe_crackerChicago, IL US Post Number: 3003 Registered: Jan-06 | Why would a person go out of his way to build another companies subs, do you think you can do it better as a consumer or are you trying to be someone, maybe a company, or just bored? Just curious....Polo. |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 17 Registered: Jul-07 | Just bored... I can make it what i want. Example-If I want a 10" 4hp driver (not offered by tc) its no problem to make it..., plus i do not have to wait for a recone if i blow it.. and then lets add in the fact that it costs FAR less to buy parts than a complete driver...As far as "trying to be someone" i cant say that i really care to be someone. and as far as building another companies subs- dont quite know what you are referring to there, seeing how none of the drivers i build/have built have anything in common with any other production driver, other than a motor. Can i ask why you feel the need to jump on me? just curious. |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbFarmington, Nm Usa Post Number: 2208 Registered: Nov-04 | i think the just want o know who you because you ahave a vast amount of knowledge and the ability to build your own subs and knowing a lot of inside people. which boils downs to; whoever you are your the man! lol i wish i could biuld my own woofers. well whoeva you may be your welcome here sir |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3335 Registered: Jan-05 | very nice stuff, i see a couple 4hp in there those are some badass motors, i do have a question though would you happen to know anything about shocker audio, i was wondering cause i heared mike, the owner of shocker, used the 4hp as his sig motor but he did some mods to it would you have any info on that. |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 18 Registered: Jul-07 | Please excuse me.. maybe i took Polo's post wrong... If that is the case, i am sorry. I'm simply not used to being attacked for no reason |
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Gold Member Username: Safe_crackerChicago, IL US Post Number: 3004 Registered: Jan-06 | Not jumping, just curious. So you in no way shape or form plan to resell TC's subs as your own? I was just getting the vibe that is what you plan to do, but hey if you are just bored and a Hobbiest like the rest of us then keep us posted it is most interesting indeed! Polo.. |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 8284 Registered: Jun-06 | Visitor, I have no interest in challenging your identity or your affiliation with any company. I guess you can call yourself the messenger and that alone bears the weight of intention. From the looks of it to you it's more than a hobby lol. I see a seed being planted. Am I wrong? |
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Gold Member Username: JblanfordPost Number: 1832 Registered: Oct-06 | visitor = 02 parkave from ca.com ??? |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 19 Registered: Jul-07 | Paul and Polo- to clarify- In no way, shape, or form do i intend to sell tc sounds drivers, or recones for said drivers. it is 100% my own use (if i do sell ANY parts, it is purely to help a fellow enthusiast out, and generally i send them to Tim Roy at sound extreme.) I have 0 interest in customer service sales And actually- i don't just build based off of others motors... I also have made (or had built by someone) a few custom motors completely Yes Paul- i would call myself the messenger in this case. right or wrong. And it is far more than a hobby... To be totally honest i am far more into the technical aspect of speaker design than actual "stereo setups" I really do hope that that clears things up |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 20 Registered: Jul-07 | Joe- yes that is me. (although i am ashamed to say it, lol) that forum is a waste. Also- to Paul and Polo- you will probably see me in mainly TC sounds threads, or recone threads simply because they are what i know.. moreso than others |
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Gold Member Username: JblanfordPost Number: 1834 Registered: Oct-06 | "Polo- you will probably see me in mainly TC sounds threads, or recone threads simply because they are what i know.. moreso than others" well we won't see much of you, because there's not one person here with TC product that i can name off the top of my head lol |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 8288 Registered: Jun-06 | So this doesn't pay your bills? That's cool. Power/money to play though. Nothing's free. Do you invest your own capital? Sorry if it's out of line. Just curious. |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 8289 Registered: Jun-06 | And Joe, there are ppl here with TC subs. I just can't remember who they are lol. |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 21 Registered: Jul-07 | Joe- i lurk mainly.. so you probably wont see much of me, unless there is a recone thread or tc thread. doesn't mean I'm not around Paul- not out of line at all. i have nothing to hide/conceal... Yep- i invest every penny of the stuff that i have, with very little (if any) discount on parts. I do well in life, and this is the hobby i enjoy (i do not usually buy parts from tc sounds, weather or not it looks like it.) I generally buy my parts from their parts houses. and of late a few considerate business owners have helped me out with a few pieces that i cannot get easily otherwise (for example- Recently i looked into placing an order for 18" cones.. i was told that i needed to order a minimum of 80 cones. I don't need that many, so i go to a few of my other sources, and bam- got 5-10 cones coming) |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbFarmington, Nm Usa Post Number: 2211 Registered: Nov-04 | in one of those pics it lookd i saw a lightning audio basket with a huge motor was that what i think it was. and what rockford amps are those? |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 8292 Registered: Jun-06 | Good for you. Yet, to the competition, you are a seed. However quiet you are. The movie Godfather comes to mind lol. Don't stop man. |
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Silver Member Username: Gh0st_31FL USA Post Number: 562 Registered: May-06 | tc sounds sucks. their reps are unresponsive, products over priced, and they can suck my d!ck for this. |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 22 Registered: Jul-07 | Hunter- That is a 10" LA basket, with a 4hp motor. That picture is in the middle of assembly. I put a Nomex/CF cone on it (like the TC sounds OEM 10 cone) Then it got a 4" dvc 1.7ohm coil, and 2 poly-cotton spiders (with spacer) with leads in em. it worked ok.. it had some issues (i was afraid of it happening..) as far as the amps- They are 2 Rockford t30001's, with a t8004 and an avic D1 navi unit. I originally had 6 of the amps, but sold 4 after i realized i simply didn't need that much power... And Paul- don't worry about that... I am in the process of building 6 more 4HPZ motors, and i have a few interesting subs in the works |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbFarmington, Nm Usa Post Number: 2212 Registered: Nov-04 | lol i have that same amp the t30001bd internals upgraded. bputtingout bout 4300. thats crazy stuff man how did you even get into building your own woofers? |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 8303 Registered: Jun-06 | Do your thing man. |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 23 Registered: Jul-07 | I got into it when i blew up a couple of team rf subs, and i simply did not want to pay tc sounds recone prices on the drivers (about $300 per) and i dint want to mess with Cactus sounds, Shocker, or any of the others. I decided i would rebuild them myself, so i contacted a friend who is buddies with Thilo, and he got me parts, i built em, had fun, and decided i would keep doing it, and experiment more. so i researched, found parts houses, and ordered.. its been going on from there. As for the amps- they are nice. i like em a lot! i run them at 1 ohm daily.. no complaints |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbFarmington, Nm Usa Post Number: 2213 Registered: Nov-04 | i havent gt too hook mne up yet. =( i have a lot of work to do on my setup. you looking to sell another one of those amps? |
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Gold Member Username: Snarl2004Audioque 12 SD2.5s, Earthquake P... Post Number: 1470 Registered: Dec-06 | i no wut it is....i bet TC is saying they are raising prices so more ppl will buy cheap subs but in 3 weeks the prices sstay the same but tc has sold alotta subs lol just a guess |
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Silver Member Username: Mike11202Sewell, NJ US Post Number: 793 Registered: Nov-06 | ^^^ already said that int he top of the thread |
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Gold Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 2228 Registered: Sep-06 | COOL |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 24 Registered: Jul-07 | Hunter- sorry, i do not currently have anything for sale, sorry And Snarl- While thta seems likely, you have to think- How much stuff does tc sounds have in stock? very little. if you cant order it, they cant make money, so i dont think that thats it... |
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Silver Member Username: Mike11202Sewell, NJ US Post Number: 795 Registered: Nov-06 | I think I got this straight, they have little stock left, so they say the price will increase 30-50% so people will buy what they have. After that, they will release new/improved products for 30-50% more money. |
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Silver Member Username: Andrew571Stillwater/Edmond, Oklahoma USA Post Number: 981 Registered: Oct-05 | Ecoustics > CA |
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