Are these new in REs line?
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1854 Registered: Aug-06 | re destroyer's? i just started hearing about them today... |
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Silver Member Username: JkidderSpring hill, Florida Usa Post Number: 990 Registered: Nov-05 | its a hybrid. handles like 2k and more of spl. |
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Gold Member Username: JblanfordPost Number: 1830 Registered: Oct-06 | i think its more of an SQL woofer JK |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1855 Registered: Aug-06 | hybrid? well who makes what parts on them? i believe this is what pete of TTB has four of in his vehicross right now... |
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Silver Member Username: JkidderSpring hill, Florida Usa Post Number: 996 Registered: Nov-05 | good thing i dont pay u to think joey boy. |
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Gold Member Username: OglejustPost Number: 2232 Registered: Aug-06 | its a mt motor w/ i believe sx softparts? |
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Gold Member Username: JkidderSpring hill, Florida Usa Post Number: 1002 Registered: Nov-05 | sx doesnt have dustcap. these do. |
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Platinum Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 12549 Registered: Jul-05 | old school re subs...and Ogle is right... |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1856 Registered: Aug-06 | did re actually make them? and when? where did the name destroyers come from if they are just hybrid subs... |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1857 Registered: Aug-06 | http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=243475 a brand new in the box one... |
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Silver Member Username: Loc_outSanta Ana, Ca Resonant Eng... Post Number: 868 Registered: Feb-05 | That sub looks like it could do some damage. |
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New member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 1 Registered: Jul-07 | Sorry- ogle isn't right. The re destroyer was based off of the concept csp motor. There are several small differences in the "destroyer" motor vs. the mt motor, BUT the biggest difference (visually) is the pole vent (which the mt does not have) And mechanically- the destroyer uses a 4" coil, vs. mt's 3" coil. that particular one would be a fresh recone, i will bet on it (destroyers originally had a yellow Kevlar cone)There are a few issues with the destroyers, main one is that the 8" spiders had to be cut to make room for the 4" coil, which #1 limits xmax, and #2 was a severe weak spot in the driver. hope that helped... |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1858 Registered: Aug-06 | that helped very much if its all accurate. one more question though. when were these things actually produced? and did they all come with kevlar cones? |
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Gold Member Username: Safe_crackerChicago, IL US Post Number: 3000 Registered: Jan-06 | Curious too because any destroyer I have seen did not have a yellow Kevlar cone... Polo.. |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1859 Registered: Aug-06 | these subs are a mystery... |
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New member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 2 Registered: Jul-07 | I must apologize.. it seems they made destroyers with paper, and destroyers with Kevlar cone. that was my mistake, and i am sorry (Motor is the same.) as far as the destroyers with the yellow Kevlar- they made a few.. here is a pic (although relatively crappy one) of one of em... along with the spider issue i mentioned earlier. again- i apologize for the cone error, and i hope this also helps kevlar cone destroyer- http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/CarAudioAvatar.jpg spider issue- http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/12082006004.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/12082006003.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p80/visitor_01/12082006002.jpg |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1861 Registered: Aug-06 | ouch... no good... and WHEN were these things made? |
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New member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 3 Registered: Jul-07 | Also- quick search through my saved documents got the T/S parims if anyone needs/wants them- 4 Inch Coil Pole Vent Specifications: Fs: 31.0 Hz Re: 1.14Dvc Qms: 4.14 Qes: .517 Qts: .46 Sd Cm2: 810 Vas: 87.7 BL: 12.14 SPL 1W/1M: 88.9 RMS: 2000W also- if you do need/want more information- it would be best to pm user "toxic tuan" on the various forums. he is the one that commissioned them.. |
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New member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 4 Registered: Jul-07 | as to WHEN they were made? i want to say 04ish.. but i cant say 100% sorry |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1862 Registered: Aug-06 | thanks much, thats pretty much all i needed to know. they seem to have too many problems/not very appetizing specs to dive into... |
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New member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 5 Registered: Jul-07 | You do have a few options- i know a kid selling a couple of motors, if you could get a tc sounds TI basket, and some of the 10" spiders, you would be good to go.... just a suggestion |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1864 Registered: Aug-06 | its for a friend, ill prolly just tell him the destroyers kinda suck, theres millions out there to choose from... |
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New member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 6 Registered: Jul-07 | sure enough |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1865 Registered: Aug-06 | speaking of tc though... their LMS subs are bad, havent seen them in person but i would trade my pair of 18"s for a pair of those 18"s any day of the week... |
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New member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 8 Registered: Jul-07 | LMS are pretty nice. i got a couple of the motors around here somewhere along with several 4hp's, and a few others. the 5200's are quite a bit louder then the lms's.. if you care |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1868 Registered: Aug-06 | im really only familiar with the LMS 5400... theres better than those? |
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Gold Member Username: JkidderSpring hill, Florida Usa Post Number: 1006 Registered: Nov-05 | what forum do you usually reside at visitor? u seem pretty cool. r u here to stay? |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1870 Registered: Aug-06 | yeah, i was wondering the same thing. |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1871 Registered: Aug-06 | why are destroyers kinda rare? i cant find crap on google about them... |
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New member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 9 Registered: Jul-07 | LOL I'm all over.. I'm at roe, ca.com (although i don't post there, i have like 20 posts since 04...) Caj.com, TC forums, ssa.com now ecoustics.. ill probably stay around, although i don't post much You will generally see me in the tc sounds posts, or recone posts (i do prototyping/rebuilding/reconing, and testing on different subs...)Seems like a nice enough forum here As far as "better" the the lms.. It really depends on what you are after. The lms is a big, power-hungry driver, that is heavily based off of sounding excellent, and getting decently loud doing it. For loudness- the tc sounds TC5200 Driver was 3-4db louder on average, and more efficient (although they still aren't the best choice below 3000 watts) and they take a SUPRE small box. Its really in what you are after. hope that helps... |
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New member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 10 Registered: Jul-07 | Why are they rare? i don't know that, but i do know that tuan only had so many of them built (some people say 25, BUT i would guess more like 250 or so.)Tuan had them built and his team members only used so many, and i think they sold off the rest. They aren't super popular, and people seem to have a hard time getting rid of them. above that, i cant help much, other than to tell you the coils "seem" to be hard to get (David at RE can get them, and do the recone) but fi cannot recone them, nor can most any one else for some reason |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1872 Registered: Aug-06 | so they were custom built with requests from tuan but who gave them the name? and thats why they are rare... |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 12 Registered: Jul-07 | i dont know, sorry |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1874 Registered: Aug-06 | thats cool... i was just trying to get the low down cause it looks like he might have already got it... |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1881 Registered: Aug-06 | i just got word from pete that there were 24 of the destroyers made... |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 25 Registered: Jul-07 | thanks for the update. Toxic Tuan said this- For you information....there are 200 destroyers in existence. I myself had 25 in my possession at one point...that's not including the ones at our shop etc. I've built a couple of company show vehicles with the destroyer of which none had a problem. Look at the new Magnum from Xcite Audio. Their show vehicle which will be featured in many magazines, Sema, and CES will have a destroyer in it. link- http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2123146&postcount=385 they seem to be quite the mystery |
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Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Team Fi Car Audio [:-] Post Number: 1886 Registered: Aug-06 | ahhh... well i cant get a direct link from the hexibase forums but here is the quote pete said... ""Destroyer" is just what we named these; they don't actually have a name. Upon assembly, there were only about 24 in existence and they're quickly becoming known as an enigma among ultra-rare woofers. Yes, they do have 4" voice coils and, yes, they do have pole vents. The only ordinary thing about these woofers is the standard 12-spoke basket. I didn't feel like yanking these beasts out of the truck to pose for pictures plus there's already a shot of 'em in my gallery:" 24. 200. whatever, their still rare... |
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Bronze Member Username: VisitorMiddleofnowhere, Minnesota USA Post Number: 26 Registered: Jul-07 | Oh for sure.. if you are interested in them- look at the concept CSP same motor! Its a shame no one knows more about them (as far as production #'s, etc) |
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