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Bronze Member Username: RidinspinnasCayuga, Ontario Canada Post Number: 67 Registered: May-06 | I purchased an 18" eclipse titanium pro sub, 3000 watts rms 5000 peak, quad voice coil, it has a custom box that came with it, and its going in my 1998 ford expedition eddie bauer edition, this suv has alot of room, i think the stock alternator is 130 amp, and i have a small amp that i will be hooking the sub up to, it will be a 2006 kicker zx1000.1 class d mono amp, will this puch my sub do u think? and will my alternator be able to handle it, as i will be replacing my stock battery with a red or yellow top battery, should i get another battery on top of that, kicker recommends to have a 140 amp alt fer that amp, but it wont hurt it will it? let me know thanks guys, |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 1371 Registered: Jul-06 | It should be ok. And extra batteries won't help any. If you're going to spend money on the electrical system, an HO alternator is priority 1. |
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Bronze Member Username: RidinspinnasCayuga, Ontario Canada Post Number: 69 Registered: May-06 | so would you recommend me replacing my stock battery with a optima battery, if so what red or yellow top thanks, and will it be pretty loud? |
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Silver Member Username: KillswitchjdPost Number: 397 Registered: Apr-06 | you need a bigger amp for that sub. 3000 wrms |
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Bronze Member Username: RidinspinnasCayuga, Ontario Canada Post Number: 70 Registered: May-06 | ok i am looking to buy a memphis 4kw or 2500, now what will i need to power one of these amps, if its a yellow or red top battery situation no worry to me as i have a good hookup with the man who owns a battery store, and i know a guy who makes HO alternators, what size alt will i need, and what else will i need, i already have 0 gauge wire, let me know thanks |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 1373 Registered: Jul-06 | To run an amp that powerful, you will need the biggest HO alternator you can get for your car. If you're stuck on optima batteries get the redtop. Otherwise get a Kinetik, they are better batteries. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 1374 Registered: Jul-06 | Also, if you go with the 4kw I would recommend using 2/0 wire for that amp. 1/0 is fine for the 2500. |
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Silver Member Username: KillswitchjdPost Number: 399 Registered: Apr-06 | two seperate runs of 0 gauge? how much power do you think the 4kw memphis amp will pull from a charging system? |
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Bronze Member Username: RidinspinnasCayuga, Ontario Canada Post Number: 71 Registered: May-06 | what is the 2/0 gauge? wait i have 1/0 gauge ..is that different then when people say 0 gauge? let me know and how many amps will that be fer an alternator i need to know?thanks |
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Silver Member Username: ClouduzPost Number: 152 Registered: Jun-06 | the big number in front of the /0 the bigger the wire wire is...example 1/0 is bigger than 0 gauge and so on |
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Bronze Member Username: RidinspinnasCayuga, Ontario Canada Post Number: 72 Registered: May-06 | ohh really? sweet, and yeah so how many amps will my alternator have to be, how big do they make them, how many amps if i get the mojo 4kw amp, |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 1392 Registered: Jul-06 | " the big number in front of the /0 the bigger the wire wire is...example 1/0 is bigger than 0 gauge and so on " Wrong, the number before the slash is the number of zeros. For example, 1/0 = 0 gauge, 2/0 = 00, 3/0 = 000, etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge#Table_of_AWGs_and_approximate_c orresponding_sizes " two seperate runs of 0 gauge? " That would work " how much power do you think the 4kw memphis amp will pull from a charging system? " I would guess 425-450 amps. |
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Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 798 Registered: Nov-04 | You should be able to get a pretty powerful alt with that car. Go with excessiveamperage.com! Alt for your car shouldn't be all that expensive either since it's an american car. |
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Silver Member Username: Waterboy2289Martinez, Georgia 2 18 SX w/ ... Post Number: 195 Registered: Jan-06 | if getting an optima battery, get the biggest yellow you can fit under your hood if you get a 4kw, you will need multiple batts in addition to a ho alt you will also need several runs of 1/0 to feed that amp correctly.....what ohm load will you be running? |
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Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 801 Registered: Nov-04 | Several runs of wire for 1 amp? never heard of that. M.S. said to run 2/0 wire and that's all you'll need |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 1401 Registered: Jul-06 | ^^^^^^^^ You've never seen an amp with two sets of 1/0 power and ground connections? For example the Adassa Warlord:  And definitely go www.ohiogen.com or http://stores.ebay.com/Iraggi-Alternator-and-Electronics for the HO alt |
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Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 807 Registered: Nov-04 | niiice now i've officially heard of this, thanks m.s. does the memphis 4kw have this? |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 1412 Registered: Jul-06 | No, so 2 runs of 1/0 wouldn't be feasible with that amp unless there was a battery in the back to connect everything to. |
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Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 808 Registered: Nov-04 | how are those amps by the way? never hear anyone talk about them...looks like a beast |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 1418 Registered: Jul-06 | The Warlords? From what I hear, they are great quality and do 5000 watts at 1 ohm. As far as I know they're only available in Europe so that may be why you don't often hear about them. |
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Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 811 Registered: Nov-04 | ^^^I want one!!! |
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Gold Member Username: N2audioLawrence, Ks USA Post Number: 1248 Registered: Mar-04 | FWIW - 4000/.75 = 5333 assuming the amp is accurately rated and about average efficiency for a class D 5333/13.5 = 395A RMS Current draw assuming you listen to low frequency test tones at full volume 100% of the time. 395/3 = 131A The crest factor (ratio of sine wave power to music power) of even the most demanding music is about 1/3. 131A would be the appx. rms current draw playing full volume music. It will be a good bit less than that assuming you don't listen at full blast all the time. 100A is a TON of constant current. You might get by with a 200A alt, but if you can find something bigger it wouldn't hurt. |
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Bronze Member Username: RidinspinnasCayuga, Ontario Canada Post Number: 80 Registered: May-06 | ok so would like 220 or 250 be an ideal size of alternator? |
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Silver Member Username: OlegSanta Monica, CA USA Post Number: 814 Registered: Nov-04 | here're some from Iraggi: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240-amp-Dominator-Series-Alternator-Ford_W0QQcmdZ ViewItemQQcategoryZ33573QQihZ019QQitemZ7960516998 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240-amp-Amputator-Series-Alternator-Ford_W0QQcmdZ ViewItemQQcategoryZ33573QQihZ019QQitemZ7960517015 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240-amp-Iraggi-Alternator-97-03-Ford-Lincoln-Merc ury_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33573QQihZ019QQitemZ7955207855 Not exactly sure how they're different or why the amputator is so much more expensive. Those are pretty good deals though. Lately there have been complaints about Dominick at Iraggi not responding to emails and it taking up to 2 months to receive the alternator. I have my excessive amperage alt for over a month now, it works beautifully and I got it made/delivered within 3 weeks. |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 1441 Registered: Jul-06 | Absolutely get the Amputator series! They have much more amps at idle, which is very important. |
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Silver Member Username: RidinspinnasCayuga, Ontario Canada Post Number: 113 Registered: May-06 | hey guys its me again back in the thread help me find an amp for my 18, its 3000 watts rms quad 1 ohm voice coil the earthquake d3 is 3000 watts rms @ 2ohms can i use that? |
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Silver Member Username: KillswitchjdPost Number: 538 Registered: Apr-06 | quad 1 ohm, i dont think so... becasue I think you can get a total load of 4 or 1 ohm... |
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