Ground Pounder or what?
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 145 Registered: Dec-06 | Hey, I was here before but never actually got anything together. I decided not to go into yet and only got an alt upgrade. I just want to rumble the streets and I want it to sound good if you know what I mean.  I was thinking some Orion or Zapco amps (which, or what?) and some subs which can go down low and do it VERY loudly! I like the whole gut shaking feeling and the fact that it carries far, doesn't it? I remember being in the movies, and when those powerful loud scenes shake me and rumble my guts. I'm not sure where to go or look for what I'm seeking. I should have plenty of power on hand though. |
|
Silver Member Username: Solobaric4lifeSeminole, Al United states Post Number: 378 Registered: Jan-07 | some btl 18's or some 9515's |
|
Silver Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 552 Registered: Dec-06 | Can't really compare Orion to Zapco, Zap's are high dollar. How many amps is your new alt? Sounds to me like you just need one Fi Q or BL 15 in a nice ported box and a 1000+ watt amp and you're good to go. |
|
Gold Member Username: JohnfiacIL My wangers b... Post Number: 1874 Registered: Mar-06 | What kind of budget are we looking at? If you want it VERY loud at the lows, your looking at some expensive subs, and the orions should be fine with it. 2500D's but im not sure on how good they run on .5ohm daily loads talk to Chad Lee. Id go with 15's or 18's depending on how low your talkin. I just got some 15's and dont think i could want it any lower. I felt like i was gunna puke from some of the lows this morning.. my stomache was bothering me b4 hand but just feelin like im hungry... but anyways budget and room available for the subs... what kinda ride they going into and how much power do plan on pushing.. what size H\O? |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 146 Registered: Dec-06 | Dual Alt, 600 amps What would a 15" BTL, BL, Q, or 9515 do in the Expedition? |
|
Gold Member Username: Livin_loud18 of Love Fi Audio Post Number: 1339 Registered: Jan-06 | god damn lol well you have enough power on hand to do pretty much anything... |
|
Silver Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 554 Registered: Dec-06 | 600 amps Holy sheepballs  |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 147 Registered: Dec-06 | Oh I mean to say 20hz there sorry ^ Oh I'm the only one that hardly ever uses it, I've got plenty of room back there. How much power can I get out of the alt? Would 5k be enough for a strong LOUD 20hz? |
|
Gold Member Username: Livin_loud18 of Love Fi Audio Post Number: 1340 Registered: Jan-06 | 2 18" BTL's on 5000wrms would just be devastation budget? |
|
Gold Member Username: JohnfiacIL My wangers b... Post Number: 1878 Registered: Mar-06 | Um it should be if properly installed. I get decently loud at 20Hz on about 3K~ish its alot louder at 35hz.. but thats the design.. if you want 20hz.... Id definetly go with some 18's... 15s are basically out of the picture.. What kind of budget tho... i can list quite a few subs but you might no like the price.... where did u get the dual alt setup from? I have been trying to get one for like 2 years now. |
|
Gold Member Username: Livin_loud18 of Love Fi Audio Post Number: 1341 Registered: Jan-06 | dude you could push at least 20kw out of that. you have unlimited possibilities especially with all that room. 20hz with what i said above would shake the sh!t out of you lol |
|
Silver Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 555 Registered: Dec-06 | Have you heard, or I should say felt, 20hz? There are very few songs that even go that low unless you are running sweeps or test tones. You're way more concerned with what it will do around 45-50 than down that low. Man if you have the cash you could go wild with that much space and that much amperage to spare. Two 15" Fi's (depending on what you want) and the 2500D Killa mentioned and you're talking some slamming azz sh!t goin' down. |
|
Silver Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 556 Registered: Dec-06 | ^^^ LOL all thinking the same thing damnit |
|
Gold Member Username: Livin_loud18 of Love Fi Audio Post Number: 1342 Registered: Jan-06 | lol damn i wish i was in this guys shoes give us a budget guy! also, what is in there currently overstock? just the alts? because if you have nothing else, internal speaker replacement will be necessary with what you'll be getting lol |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 148 Registered: Dec-06 | I got the alt brackets custom-made from Steve's Car Shop and all installed for $2000 I'm surprised at the price he charged me for that alt bracket. Do you think he ripped me off? Considering what I had to spend on the alt setup, I'd like to make the budget at least 3x that...so I can get what I paid for. I love the earth shaking lows. |
|
Silver Member Username: Rosrock2000AA Assassins, MI USA Post Number: 343 Registered: Dec-06 | omg.. just dont kill urself with w/e ya get |
|
Gold Member Username: Wolfman1966WEST MONROE , LOUISIANA USA Post Number: 2075 Registered: Jan-06 | so a $6000 budget? Damn, instead of "what do you want", its more like "what don't you want" |
|
Gold Member Username: JohnfiacIL My wangers b... Post Number: 1883 Registered: Mar-06 | Id get like 2 DD Z1's and 2 DD 9917's(18 inch subs) and a few hc2400's and the 1800 for under the hood it will make your head explode  |
|
Gold Member Username: JohnfiacIL My wangers b... Post Number: 1884 Registered: Mar-06 | Or maybe the new 18inch Z series but im not even sure of that price... |
|
Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 2956 Registered: Jan-05 | 4 kx2500.1's and either dd 18z, treo ssx, eclipse ti pro, re xxx, atomic apx, shocker super xtreme/sig(hard to find), theres probally a bunch more but i can't think. |
|
Silver Member Username: •cam•Post Number: 136 Registered: Nov-06 | two ssx 18s would be the sh!t. I remember B posting about how he parked outside a building with some treo subs (can't remember what he had, it was a while ago) and a bunch of people ran out because they thought there was an earthquake or something. i might have exagerated that tho i can't really remember it but talk to B. http://www.treoonline.com/ssx.html http://www.incriminatoraudio.com/index.htm an IA 40.1 might be good but going by the ratings it would underpower them a lil. it might be under-rated pretty hard core though. you'd probably have to phone them cuz its not on their site. |
|
Gold Member Username: Livin_loud18 of Love Fi Audio Post Number: 1343 Registered: Jan-06 | 1 18. believe me when i say 1 will be enough. ddaudio.com/dd/caraudio/woofers.asp?series=Z like 4 of these amps low-hz.com/commerce/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_22&products_id=31 all of the wiring knukonceptz.com get a box from either one of these guys teamtoxicbass.com/design/index.htm spkrman.com/ batteries kinetikaudio.com/faq.asp do you have a head unit? |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 149 Registered: Dec-06 | Sorry the forums were acting weird on me. Yeah guys I don't have anything but the alt upgrade. It's all stock and I just haven't really done anything yet. I was going to, but I got caught up in working on my home theater build (going great BTW). I'm more than sure stock isn't going to cut it, especaiily with being drowned out by the bass. It seems everyone supports DD. |
|
Silver Member Username: Nd4spd18Southeast PA Post Number: 915 Registered: Jul-06 | Damm with that budget, your limit is going to be how much you can fit, not how much can you afford, lol. I think you should be able to fit four DD 9515s and 4 Z1s in there. That would be the best street bass system ever.  |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 150 Registered: Dec-06 | So when I drive by my old high school I can knock my Algebra teacher's tea over? She always had these big things of tea. |
|
Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 2958 Registered: Jan-05 | i'd get 2 DD 18z's with 2 kx2500.1's to each, with a good box, i could see a 150+bassrace score, which is VERY FVCKIN loud. |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 151 Registered: Dec-06 | First off, are you trying to blow my head off??? Second, what prices are we running into? |
|
Silver Member Username: JkidderSpring hill, Florida Usa Post Number: 361 Registered: Nov-05 | nope. we r tryin to shake ur head off haha.... around 5 grand for 4 9515's n' 4 Z1's |
|
Gold Member Username: Livin_loud18 of Love Fi Audio Post Number: 1348 Registered: Jan-06 | he needs a HU, wiring, batts, etc. too... |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 153 Registered: Dec-06 | That's true...^^ |
|
Gold Member Username: Livin_loud18 of Love Fi Audio Post Number: 1350 Registered: Jan-06 | just get what i showed you above lol a pioneer DEH-P880PRS would be great... mostly any pioneer premier HU would be fine though for internal speakers to keep a decent budget go either infinity or alpine type r/x, or for a little more go JL to power the internals get a sundown SAX-100.4 that system would be crazy... |
|
New member Username: 2000ladeLafayette, IN United States Post Number: 4 Registered: Mar-07 | i have 4 TREO SSX 18's for sale that i had in my vehicle for around 2 months. if you are interested let me know. |
|
Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 2960 Registered: Jan-05 | ohh well since you still have to buy other stuff, i'd get some 9917's and a 2500.1 to each, that would be one sweet setup get very loud also, i'd go with the hu and amp eric said but different speaks, maybe some rainbows or morals. |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 154 Registered: Dec-06 | What components can take more power? |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 155 Registered: Dec-06 | I'm liking the look of those Rainbows. |
|
Gold Member Username: Livin_loud18 of Love Fi Audio Post Number: 1352 Registered: Jan-06 | rainbow, cdt, and focal make some of the best components |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 157 Registered: Dec-06 | Will two of those Sundowns bridged (4-ch total) on 2 sets of components (Rainbow Power CS) in the front sound good loud? |
|
Gold Member Username: Livin_loud18 of Love Fi Audio Post Number: 1355 Registered: Jan-06 | sure those will fit? they're 6.9" woofers... and have huge magnets lol. but yeah those would love around 200wrms each... |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 158 Registered: Dec-06 | Yes I checked. |
|
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rChicago, Illinois U.S.A Post Number: 1409 Registered: Jul-06 | Can we see pics of the Dual alt setup? |
|
Silver Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 569 Registered: Dec-06 | Lol Rob, I have a feeling about this one too. And Ryan, what's up with your profile? Seems to me you have all of your stuff already picked out. If so, why are you asking here? |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 159 Registered: Dec-06 | You guys are right. I'm mainly just doing this to learn so I know what stuff is good and how all this works.  I may have a lot of money, but I got it by saving, not spending it wildly like I did in my teens. I thank you guys as I really have learned a lot in my 2 months here. |
|
Gold Member Username: Livin_loud18 of Love Fi Audio Post Number: 1356 Registered: Jan-06 |  |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 160 Registered: Dec-06 | Well, bye... |
|
Silver Member Username: Adam_s15 TC9 Hybrid, RE MT Softparts Post Number: 857 Registered: Aug-04 | So this was just a big joke of a thread?? Glad I didnt waste my time thinking about it. |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 161 Registered: Dec-06 | Yeah, again, bye... |
|
Gold Member Username: Matt12490California USA Post Number: 1937 Registered: May-05 |  |
|
Gold Member Username: Tremor1127Fi Car Audio has got m... Post Number: 1191 Registered: Aug-06 | lots of good subs and amps out there. with that alt setup you can 10,000+wrms... if i was in your shoes i would personally do 4 BTLs and 4 rockford fosgate t3000bds... |
|
Silver Member Username: Rustysurfer916Oviedo, FL Post Number: 397 Registered: Mar-06 | 4 18 inch kicker solo X's. you will be herd for miles. gotta run 20,000 watts though. but from the looks of it. your alternators can handle it. |
|
Gold Member Username: JohnfiacIL My wangers b... Post Number: 1898 Registered: Mar-06 | I still say 18" subs... he said he wants it really loud and sounding good at like 20hz... if that truely is the case.... 18" is the best way to go.. You would be good with 2 of the DD 99z's |
|
Silver Member Username: Rustysurfer916Oviedo, FL Post Number: 404 Registered: Mar-06 | 18s wont sound "good" well whats your deffenition of good. you can only go so far till it doesent sound good anymore and its just loud. if your putting a bunch of 18s in and all that its just gonna be loud and not the cleanest system. whats it matter if it sounds good. with that much bass you wont beable to hear anything else. |
|
Silver Member Username: JkidderSpring hill, Florida Usa Post Number: 376 Registered: Nov-05 | DD Z series is better than solo x's matt. sorry to burst ur bubble. |
|
Gold Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 1087 Registered: Sep-06 | Jake Ryan Try this out 4 AudioQue HD3 15" 4 Sundown SAZ 1500D http://www.audioque.com/aq/HDSeries.htm http://www.sundownaudio.com/ |
|
Silver Member Username: Rustysurfer916Oviedo, FL Post Number: 406 Registered: Mar-06 | hey you aint bursting anything. i dident say they were the best. |
|
Silver Member Username: Andrew571Stillwater/Edmond, Oklahoma USA Post Number: 759 Registered: Oct-05 | did u guys not read? he doesnt have dual alts, or this budget - he just did this to see what was good out there for that budget... basically he was being a douche bag |
|
Silver Member Username: ThecryptLawrence, Kansas Post Number: 162 Registered: Dec-06 | Thanks for still recommending, but soz It would a been 4 RE XXX's each powered by a Zapco 4kw or something anyway. We could turn this into a thread where we go about the hypothetical scenario of what you really could do with an unlimited budget with my Expedition (that I do own). You guys are making me really want to get some of this stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if I owned some crazy setup someday. |
|
Gold Member Username: JohnfiacIL My wangers b... Post Number: 1904 Registered: Mar-06 | matt i say the 18s because they are bigger.... bigger subs have alot more potential to get the lower notes because it takes more time to move all the cone area.. hence y tweeters are small.. they move really fast and get the highs. What your looking for and what you SAY your looking for i think are 2 totally different things, i dont think you realize what 20hz really is. 20hz is really low for SPL numbers and to make it sound good while doing it... its really more of a question of whats possible lol. You would probably be happy with 1 18 on 2-3Krms in about a 5cu box at 33hz or so if your not sure at how low things are.... goto www.realmofexcursion.com download some sine waves and play them on some subs or your stock... BE CAREFUL if you never messed with them before though... they are known to blow speakers when used wrong or just used stupidly.. and 20hz from 40hz at the same volume level will pull alot more power.. im pretty sure atleast(depending on RCA vs. Gain and all.. close to clipping..ect) |
|
Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sHit you in the chest m... Post Number: 1728 Registered: Feb-06 | So do you even own the system you listed in your profile? That would be an incredible setup too... |
|
Gold Member Username: Arande2Extreme SQ FTW Post Number: 1969 Registered: Dec-06 | KiLLa I think the reason it uses more power is because the cone has to travel further and use more amplifier power to do that, I think it's a low impedance at that frequency and so uses more power. |
|
Gold Member Username: JohnfiacIL My wangers b... Post Number: 1906 Registered: Mar-06 | Reece are you talking to me? Yea i own it all. im not using the JBL amp anymore though.. theres somthing wrong with all my RCA's for the subs if i connect it... it only works right in a single SUBWOOFER AMP install.... dunno whats wrong with it exactly.. but i loose my lows when i connect the amp and my other amp also sounds like the gain turns itself down when i plug it in... so yea  but soon another PHD5000D after power upgrades then i need help choosing mids\highs and amps for them.. i need somthing that can still be heard clearly and not be drownd out with 150-155db of bass. I didnt get this setup metered yet but all i can say.... loudest thing me or any of my friends ever heard... i even had people at a local sound shop coming out to check it when i pulled up.. even had a few customers ask for my number so i can do some installs for them. these things got some crazy potential... i may end up getting 2 more but i would rather get 2 18's along with the 15's |
|
New member Username: 2000ladeLafayette, IN United States Post Number: 10 Registered: Mar-07 | or you can buy my old ground pounder setup. 4 ssx 18's. 3 300 amp 18v alternators. 5 kinetik 2400's, Tru technology 4.100. CDT 7.2 gold with upstage, 4 memphis 4kws. and wang a 153.1 on the dash at 30 hz. just a thought |
Main Forums
Today's Posts- Home Audio Forum
- Home Video Forum
- Home Theater Forum
- Car Audio Forum
- Accessories Forum
- All Forum Topics