Amp list
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Silver Member Username: Sb2012Iowa US Post Number: 136 Registered: Jul-06 | what is you top 5 list of amp brands? |
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Gold Member Username: IlluminatorUSA Post Number: 4737 Registered: Apr-05 | I'm not going to list the best ever because some are just too overpriced (like Brax and TruTec). Zapco PPI (PC or Art series) Rockford Fosgate Older Orion Older Soundstream I look forward to seeing other lists... |
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Silver Member Username: Rob_pregRoyal oak, Michigan United states Post Number: 555 Registered: Sep-05 | McIntosh, Brax, Helix, Audison, JL |
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Gold Member Username: IlluminatorUSA Post Number: 4739 Registered: Apr-05 | Haha, I forgot about JL... |
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Silver Member Username: Rob_pregRoyal oak, Michigan United states Post Number: 556 Registered: Sep-05 | audison isn't really ultra expensive either. it's in JL range. |
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Gold Member Username: IlluminatorUSA Post Number: 4741 Registered: Apr-05 | Definitely! I shouldn't have made that list so quickly, my bad.  |
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Gold Member Username: IlluminatorUSA Post Number: 4742 Registered: Apr-05 | All of a sudden I can think of at least ten other amp names I should have considered... |
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Gold Member Username: JuliobSanto DomingoDominican Re... Post Number: 2136 Registered: Dec-05 | what system r you trying to get? |
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Silver Member Username: Sb2012Iowa US Post Number: 137 Registered: Jul-06 | oh nothing...ideas maybe for a future system...but i was more curious to hear amps i havent heard of and check them out |
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Silver Member Username: RiskybPost Number: 145 Registered: Feb-06 | McIntosh Brax Diamond Audio Zapco Helix |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Google is your Friend, FL Post Number: 5249 Registered: Aug-05 | i have heard TruTech isn't as nice as the price tag suggests....Steve Head(if you know who that is, this will have some significance) said he preffered the DLS amps over the Tru Copper series b/c he said they wewre cleaner and put out more power for the price. |
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Gold Member Username: JuliobSanto DomingoDominican Re... Post Number: 2141 Registered: Dec-05 | diamond audio!!! are you crazy hehe i'll make the real list right now 1-McIntosh 2-Brax 3-Helix 4-Zapco 5-Sinfoni 6-older orion 7-older PPI 8-JL 9-older soundstream 10-Butler or other brand just some ideas... |
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Silver Member Username: Sb2012Iowa US Post Number: 141 Registered: Jul-06 | where can i find brax and helix amps...i tried googling it...wasnt vere successfull lol |
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Silver Member Username: Sb2012Iowa US Post Number: 142 Registered: Jul-06 | very* |
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Silver Member Username: DelsolePost Number: 551 Registered: Feb-05 | prolly dealer's |
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Silver Member Username: RiskybPost Number: 149 Registered: Feb-06 | Not all of them in diamond juliob but those D7 amps that were once made by Esoteric Audio are nice. My list wasn't in order haha. I would kill to get my hands on one of those pimp Mcintosh amps *drools*. |
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Silver Member Username: Naledge503Portland, Oregon U.S. Post Number: 183 Registered: Jun-06 | woofersetc.com has brax and helix |
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Silver Member Username: Sb2012Iowa US Post Number: 143 Registered: Jul-06 | me neither muddy^^ |
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Silver Member Username: Crayola0Wisconsin Post Number: 751 Registered: Jun-06 | is jbl any good? |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 3351 Registered: Oct-05 | yep expecially their crown amps 1. harrison labs (great amps if you have never dealt with one) 2.Mcintosh Labs 3. US AMPS 4..ZAPCO/XTANT (cause i think both are pretty even) 5. arc audio/ 6. TRU 7. jl 8. PPI before theu got bought out  9. def older orion 10. RF older models, but power series are still good to date |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 8810 Registered: Jul-05 | No order Mcintosh Brax/Helix Sinfoni Arc Audio Celestra Zapco Genesis Audison XETEC Phass others Crystal JL Xtant Old PPI (art stuff) Old orion |
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Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 3355 Registered: Oct-05 | hm. havent heard of phass. are they owned by anyone or are they their own independant company? and i dont understand what you said brandon |
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Bronze Member Username: BobimpactDanbury, CT US Post Number: 99 Registered: May-06 | My current personal favorites list (I'll also limit to what I sell, as I haven't seen any other amps in soooooo long.): 1 - JL Slash 2 - Alpine PDX 3 - JBL BPX 4 - Alpine Digitals (MRD Line) 5 - JL A Series Is it biased? Yup, it's my list ;). My all time favorite still stands at the old RF Punch Series. Ugly little gray amps with output double rated power. |
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Gold Member Username: Alias747MN Post Number: 1203 Registered: Apr-05 | ^^^^ OMG yes that is a terribly biased list. That is is just what you sell and what you like, like you said. Becuase the the Alpine MRD amps should be no where near the top five amp brands. Hell, not even close to the top 10 list for that matter! Same with the JL A series amps. |
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Silver Member Username: Sb2012Iowa US Post Number: 148 Registered: Jul-06 | lmao^ |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Google is your Friend, FL Post Number: 5381 Registered: Aug-05 | ehhh. who cares...a watt is a watt until you get into the crappy amps...then it is all about the power supply. lol |
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Silver Member Username: BobimpactDanbury, CT US Post Number: 106 Registered: May-06 | Hey now, I said, it's my list and it's biased as all hell! Actually, I was going over my most often sold list, and that's what came up. But just for knocking my workhorse MRDM and A Series, I'm retuning my list and giving out awards! Fear my awful jokes! "BLINKING LIGHTS! YAY! BLINKING LIGHTS! Award" MTX Prism EFX Amps "Fan Noise? What Fan Noise?" Early 2000/1 Xtant X series "AH CRAP! Where did that jumper go?!?!" Early 2000/1 Xtant X series "Fancy Pants Amp of the Year." Audison Thesis HV Venti "Does anyone buy this amp? Ever? Award" Clarion APA 250 "Bed Kit Superstar" JBL GTi A60001 "The Single Greatest Amp Ever Concieved" Radio Shack Optimus 110.2 |
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Gold Member Username: Alias747MN Post Number: 1210 Registered: Apr-05 | ^^^ The Audison HV Venti is probably the best amp ever made. That thing is just crazy. And it weighs in with one hefty price tag. Like 12 GRAND! It's pretty tight though, I will probably never even get to see one in real life! |
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Silver Member Username: JohnfiacIl USA Post Number: 349 Registered: Mar-06 | i havnt heard one word mentioned about what it is being used for SPL,SQ, or SQL applications.... Earthquake makes some mean amps JBL BP1200.1 is a sweet amp 2 Best brands ive ever had... not the best but worth the money |
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Gold Member Username: JuliobSanto DomingoDominican Re... Post Number: 2155 Registered: Dec-05 | earthquake is for spl |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Google is your Friend, FL Post Number: 5466 Registered: Aug-05 | same for MMATS....have you seen the damping on their "SQ" amps....i laugh i laugh. or maybe it just isn't as high as others i have seen but it still acceptable?? hoo noez |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Google is your Friend, FL Post Number: 5467 Registered: Aug-05 | dampening*** i always spell it wrong. lol i just checked out a few amps from Chauncey's list....that Audison Thesis HV Venti looks amazing. i couldn't get the Sinfoni website to work, although i have been there before and seen there marvelous works of art called amps...it wouldn't work for me today. it seems to me like the better of the car audio amps are European based.....hmmmm. or at least the super hi fi ones are. |
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New member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 4 Registered: Sep-06 | Basically every amp listed is way over PRICED even the online prices and that saying something unless you are looking for major clarity if not there many ways to go. And by the way the JBL-BPX amps are better than 75% of the listed Manufacture. |
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Gold Member Username: JuliobSanto DomingoDominican Re... Post Number: 2208 Registered: Dec-05 | they're all good just get one... lol! |
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Gold Member Username: InvainMichigan United States Post Number: 4122 Registered: Aug-04 | "it seems to me like the better of the car audio amps are European based.....hmmmm. or at least the super hi fi ones are." Muddy how could you. Made in the USA. |
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Bronze Member Username: KrazyjUSA Post Number: 97 Registered: Jan-06 | personal fav'ts 4 my own reasons zapco memphis JL Kicker elemental designs |
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Bronze Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 19 Registered: Sep-06 | Come on people all the old amplifiers got to go. You can't compare new school amps to old school amps the technology is like night n day it's that different. Some of the amps listed are 8 to 10 years old maybe a little older than that and in the car audio industry thats foreever ago. And any ways the older amps are like finding a needle in a haystack how often you gonna find that needle. Give up and stick with the new amps. There is just as many bad azz amps now as there were back in the day. My List NEW ROCKFORD FOSGATE-POWER SERIES JBL-BPX SERIES AUDISON-VRX SERIES DIAMOND AUDIO-D9 SERIES ZAPCO-CK2 SERIES MCINTOSH-MCC SERIES JL AUDIO-SLASH SERIES Every one cost alot of money unless you got the hook up. |
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Gold Member Username: IlluminatorUSA Post Number: 4766 Registered: Apr-05 |
Not at all! It's EXACTLY THE SAME. Ask any Electrical engineer! Only difference is new amps are designed with max profit in mind, not sound quality! Further, you say about your list:
Guess what? All of the oldschool amps have EXCELLENT prices. I dare you to find an amp that will outperform a PPI PC series of the same ratings for the price. |
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Gold Member Username: IlluminatorUSA Post Number: 4767 Registered: Apr-05 | Muddy, damping or dampening, I've heard it both ways Also, bob, in response to:
I would beg to differ! Check this thing out! http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/Monolithic_Gold_100/ |
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Bronze Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 25 Registered: Sep-06 | Jexx the amps I listed cost alot of money unless you got the hook up. |
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Bronze Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 26 Registered: Sep-06 | Jexx use amps are a big gamble you don't know how they been theated. There are alot people who think they know what they are doing and don't. Electronics can be fine one day and cr@p out the next so buy something with a warranty or your s--t out of luck. Been there done that got a bad azz oldschool amp off ebay amp then it broke. the manufacture didn't have the parts to fix it. Throw it away start over. |
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Bronze Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 27 Registered: Sep-06 | Jexx list PPI PC models numbers with there ratings and prices. |
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Silver Member Username: BobimpactDanbury, CT US Post Number: 126 Registered: May-06 | "Not at all! It's EXACTLY THE SAME. Ask any Electrical engineer! " Not exactly Jexx. The basic ideas behind amplification are the same, which is a necessity given the problem at hand and the physics involved, but the methods of power delivery and the rail behaviors of amps have changed quite a bit. Even in the old school amps there was differentiation in the style of amp and the rail configuration (Class A, B, and AB Hybrids). While the invention of MOSFETs in the 80s allowed true "switching" (Class D) amps to come about, this technology has been refined in the past five years to allow greater efficiencies. The average efficiency for a linear amp after power supply and audio output loss was around 40-55%, the average for a new style linear is 50-65%, class D runs closer to 55%-75%. Balanced inputs are much more popular these days. Triple Darlington configurations are becoming much easier to purchase, as the technology involved has become less expensive. The basic design of an amplifier has not changed but the ability of the consumer to buy a better amp has. |
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Gold Member Username: IlluminatorUSA Post Number: 4768 Registered: Apr-05 |
I guess I'm biased because they're so easy to fix. PPI PC2300 goes for $50 shipped on ebay in great condition. Specs are 75watts RMS x2 @4ohms 150watts RMS x2 @2ohms 300watts RMS x1 @4ohms And of course that's underrated. The sound quality is amazing. It's nearly impossible to find a comparable amp. And bob, all of the technology you mentioned is relatively old. |
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Gold Member Username: IlluminatorUSA Post Number: 4769 Registered: Apr-05 | And anything used is a 'gamble' But used is ALWAYS worth the risk |
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Gold Member Username: Alias747MN Post Number: 1259 Registered: Apr-05 | Haha, Jexx the inside of that amp is sickening to look at. I think I have seen calculators with beefier components than that! LMAO |
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Bronze Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 43 Registered: Sep-06 | Jexx the PPI PC2300 amp cost $359.99 at Discountave.net |
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Gold Member Username: IlluminatorUSA Post Number: 4770 Registered: Apr-05 | Isaac, you're being sarcastic, right?  That's one clean design if you ask me! It uses the IRFZ44N mosfets, how much 'beefier' can you get without going into the thousand watt range?? And Joey, Look up item numbers: 260030049739, 330027125730, 330024989646, 300026406608 on ebay. Nothing is expensive if you know where to find it for a good price |
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Silver Member Username: BobimpactDanbury, CT US Post Number: 134 Registered: May-06 | Awesome link Jexx, forget everything I said about amps coming a long way... http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/Alpine_MRV-1507/inside1.jpg http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/Xtant_X1001/inside1.jpg Wait, remember everything I said... http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/Alpine_PDX-4.150/inside1.jpg http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/Focal_FP_Dual_Monitor/ Drooling, drooling... Designed by JBL: http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/JBL_BP1200.1/inside4.jpg Designed by Crown: http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/JBL_BPX2200.1/inside2.jpg Think that was a good pickup? But for a REALLY nice amp: http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/Road_Gear_250/inside1.jpg Thanks Jexx, I'm gonna be up all night now. |
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Gold Member Username: IlluminatorUSA Post Number: 4778 Registered: Apr-05 | lol I always enjoy these discussions. Not trying to be harsh... The majority of those are high powered amps made solely for SPL, not SQ as the PPI is designed for. They're incommensurable. I find it interesting that the Alpine uses a flyback type smps as opposed to boost like the rest, though I've always wondered if they're isolated, every one i've taken apart uses a PP input (contrast to half bridge in PC supplies) and a CT'd output with FWB to furnish bipolar supply...think DC-DC converter. It certainly could be isolated, though there shouldn't be a need in a car (i mean, ground loop aside). You seem pretty knowledgeable about amps, maybe you know? |
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Gold Member Username: Alias747MN Post Number: 1274 Registered: Apr-05 | lol Jexx! I was talking about the Monolithic Gold peice of junk that you had a the Amp Guts link to! I know the PPI is a great amp! lol |
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Gold Member Username: IlluminatorUSA Post Number: 4779 Registered: Apr-05 | Oh cool, no worries then haha. |
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Bronze Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 96 Registered: Sep-06 | Does any one know anything about DIGITAL AUDIO. AMPS or SUBS are they good or bad. |
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Silver Member Username: JohnfiacIl USA Post Number: 385 Registered: Mar-06 | i had some 12's they made they sucked honestly.. but then they were on a boss amp to.. |
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Bronze Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 98 Registered: Sep-06 | What 12" did you have. And my cousin thinks they have something to with AUDIOBAHN. I'm not sure on that. |
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