i read the thread a little while back about the arsenal vs the rl-p's and the crystal comps and a few others i think and that was a big help and i've narrowed it down. Right now i am running 2 12" re se's off of a kicker 1200.1 amp. I would most likely be keeping hte amp unless i get 2 1000 watt amps in taht case each sound splinter would be getting 1000 watts rms. The question i have is what makes the rl-p's worht buying if i already have the se's?
i hope som1 helps u out cuz i would like a set of 15" rlp...
but inotice 1 thing the 12 has a Lower FS than the 15 even different VC's have different Spec between 2 subs of the same size....i would like it to hit low but will 2 12's be betta than 2 15's
sorry to jack but i wanted to ask...
personnally it think the rlp migh b worth getting...since all this junk is going on with RE now...u might make a pretty penny with those sub....So u could offset the cost but agian i dont know...hope u get ur help
ya i am making a pretty penny selling the subs, bouth em in the group buy at 147 a piece and selling em for 250 a piece. it will cover the cost going up. The main goal of my set up is a dialy driver with good sq but can also get loud if it needs to. I have a small sealed enclosure about 1 cu foot and the rl-ps are supposed to perform well in that size box.
i could go higher, but i made the mistake of saying 550 for the 2 12's and the box. I could have easily gotten over 6. What can i say i'm a business man. :-P btw i was also looking at crystal comps, since chauncey swears by them i was thinking about those but i can't find anywhere to buy them. So it's between upgrading to the rl-p's or the comp's or staying with the se's, but i can get the money for the se's now so i really wanna upgrade. I was thinking about the arsenal, but i guess they aren't as good as the rl-p's and the comps. Also the id max is supposed to be good but they are a little price i'm trying to upgrade and still have some money left over. So the rl-p's would do the trick very nicely.
i think id get AA over SS for the simple fact that im a AA fan. but im not saying one is better than the other.
are you selling your SEs locally? i need to find someone that will pay 300 for my 15 i was planning on building a nice ported box for it this summer and selling it for like 450 as a package. i think i can get that because the box is going to be an eyecatcher.
ya i'm selling tghem at school. To a kid running volfehang idk how to spell it they are the big red subs that someone on here has i have seen them. I might be able to find you someone for your 15. Gimme a few days and ill see what i can do. if you had to choose AA or crystal comp's?
hmm thatd be a tough one because i like how almost no one has crystal subs. i think ive read a review and they are suposed to be very good overall. idk though i liked representing AA. lol. cant decide. goodluck with your decision though
i dont know of many people tha thave the soundsplinter's either. i take pride is buying stuff noone has heard of. At school that is,. i wouldnt know abnout half this stuff if it wasnt for this forum. I'm thinking about the sound splinters. I'll let you know if i can find someone for that 15.
thanks alot, 'preciate it. and yeah. i dont knwo of anyone around town that has eclipse subs (im sure now some circuit city ones will be around), SS, AA, RE, DD, Treo (only who i set them up with) or anythign but volfs kicker rockford and infinity lol. im slowly intorducing them to my town lol. soon everybody will want SI after my install though
thanks for making my decision so much harder chauncey. lol you couldn't eliminate one of them for me huh? i think i'm going to get 2 soundsplinter 12's and then sell them and maybe get some comps eventually. These will be only my second pair of subs since i'm only 16 so i just want to hear everything that i can.
I whould go with the 2 Arsenal 12's anyday. For the preorder price of $160 a piece, its not a hard decision for me. You will get as good performance if not better from the Arsenals and a nice 3 year warranty to go with it with the best customer service you will find anywhere. And im a unbiased kind of person.
i like those crystal comps whats a good amp to run 1 15? or would i t be better to get 1 amp to run both? i'm not sure what ill do i might just end up getting one now and add another one later, so whatd be a good amp to push one 15, or should i just go for it and get 2? please give amp choices to both setups so i can make the right choice
i know all the ratings and they all are about hte same, rl-p forum says that in a small sealed box which i was planning on building small being 1 cu. ft. it can take up to 1500 watts rms, looking into an orion 2500d or a few other amps, i plan on pushing them with about 1000 watts rms so which sub would better handle being over powered?
Chancey Brown ! / Have you heard any of the Ascendant Audio subs or are you just recommending the Crystal Comps out of the blue ? Have you heard a Avalanche 12 or 15 ? Sealed or Ported ? These are questions you need to ask before you recommending anything.
Do you own a Arsenal 12 or a Crystal Comp ??? or is it that you have the Kickers or whatever in your SUV ?
1. Yes i have heard ascendant audio subs, very good drivers for the money
2. NO im not recommending the crystal cmp's out of the blue have heard them many, many times
3. Yes i have heard a 12 and 15 ava sealed and ported....Again for the price not bad drivers...When they used the XBL^2, honestly they where better then when they switched, b4 they could keep up with the old XXX and Brahma, in the low end and sq, but they didnt have quite as much upper bass rolloff as the other 2....Still a great driver for the price...After the change everything kinda fell off, and u no it....Have never heard an arsenal, but i no alot of people that wish they still had there old school(XBL2) ava's insted.
4. I own 4 crystal comp x's, got rid of the kickers a while ago....
5. I no you are bias towards AA, great drivers at a great price, not once did i knock that...But the cmp is a greater sub..
6. Have you ever heard any crystal subs, pro,pro se, cmp, cmpx,etc, once u have u will understand what im talking about
Im definetly not biased. You whould fit that category alot better CB. I have dealt with car audio for a while and have owned alot of subwoofers. Dont say i am biased towards AA because you dont know me and have no idea about what i have used in the past.
Pay Homage to Ecoustics and keep my D%ck out your mouth.
How would i fit in that catergory over u??? U sat down thought about it and wrote me a paragraph up there about AA, because u had nothing better to do with ur time,, I agree im not sure what u have heard in the past but the same goes for u toward me...And we are both grown men at least i thought, there is no need for name calling. Unless it makes u feel better, in which case i dont care.
Also u didnt answer any if my answers or questions, why not????? Thats what made ecoustics what it is (personal opinion)
and if u didnt know the 15 comp is rated at 700wrms so an amp somewhere around there, or if there is nice amp, kinda "cheap" but good for the money that will push two nicely, i might just go with 2, but it'll prolly just be the 1 15 for a while
wow. ugh, ugh... So, back to the opinions on the original VERY GOOD AND TRUELY VALID question... rl-p, arsenal, or crystal comp Maybe everyone could post their personal opinions very thoroughly on the pros and cons of each, then leave it at that. That would help me alot and I'm sure it will help the person who created this thread.
Mo and Chauncey: don't get heated... you both know this just got blown out of proportion, I'm sure neither one of you intended for this to happen. It's cool. Right?