Treo or re
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 42 Registered: Feb-06 | hey....im thinking about upgrading my subs. But i have a tough decision to make. Im think about getting either two 12" RE SX or two Treo TSX. So maybe you can help me out al little. im looking for more spl than sq, but i would like to have a little of both. What do you think i should go with? |
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Gold Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 2476 Registered: Sep-04 | man people keep coming up with tough decisions..... if yoru going to give them only 500w each then definetly the tsx, but if your going to give them 1000 each then the SX prolly, B claims they can take double their rms but i dont know if id be comfortable doing that, maybe you are? great SQL setup though. |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 2776 Registered: Aug-05 | how much power do you plan on using? |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 43 Registered: Feb-06 | well...it depends,i dont have an amp yet. But which ever one i get i will give them as much as they can take. Right now im kinda leaning towards the RE. I called them about 20 mins ago and asked for a price quote for the SX and they said its $270 shipped. So i think im gonna go with the RE SX because it can take twice as much power then the Treo TSX. |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 2779 Registered: Aug-05 | yes, but do you have the proper equipment to give those subs 2000wRMS?? |
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Silver Member Username: JakeyplaysbassSt. Louis, MO Post Number: 896 Registered: Jul-05 | treo SSis? |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 45 Registered: Feb-06 | no, not yet. but ill get it if i have to.....right now im running aroud 1700RMS. |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 46 Registered: Feb-06 | around** |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 2780 Registered: Aug-05 | what size is your alt? the Treo TSX's will take way over 500wRMS...they are very capable of doing so. |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 47 Registered: Feb-06 | my alt definatly needs upgraded. im gonna do that right after i buy my subs. so how much power will they take before you damage them? |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 2783 Registered: Aug-05 | hmmmmm.....i would say they could take about 700wRMS safely..and all day long...you be the judge after that...i don't want to over shoot. |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 48 Registered: Feb-06 | well...now i guess i have a little more thinking to do.... |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 2784 Registered: Aug-05 | i look at it like this...The Treo SSi is rated at 750wRMS....at the shop i helped at....the man who installed most of them suggested a good 1000wRMS to power them....and they sounded beautiful when people took his advice. |
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Silver Member Username: JakeyplaysbassSt. Louis, MO Post Number: 897 Registered: Jul-05 | i know people putting 1200rms to each 15 TSx and i think B puts 2500rms to each 15. they can take alot of power. |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 2785 Registered: Aug-05 | Treos are underated....by a good bit....this is common knowlegde among installers and dealers |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 2786 Registered: Aug-05 | there you go....a perfect example....^^^^^from JAke |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3565 Registered: Feb-05 | What are you guys tuning your ported box's for the 12 SSI's ? |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 2789 Registered: Aug-05 | *shrugs*..... |
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Gold Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 2319 Registered: Sep-05 | well if you divide 2500 by 500 you would get 5! so 5x their rms is what Im feeding them.. They get real violent, & alot of times scare the crap out of me! It also scares the crap out of everyone around me... they also broke my box...  Ive seen 2 TSX with 3000rms each in competitions before.. I think they were doing a 153 on the TL in a Cherooke.. so u decide.. |
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Gold Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 2320 Registered: Sep-05 | I am by no way recomending this to you... lol If you know what your doing, and have a good chargin system... The subs should last you forever. cliped signals from laggin electrical systems is what fry subs... just use your sense.. |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 2791 Registered: Aug-05 | sounds like words from a wise man. lol |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 49 Registered: Feb-06 | lol....well i think that persuaded me. So i think im gonna go with treo then. and ther almost 100$ cheaper then the RE. lol |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 2794 Registered: Aug-05 | sounds good to me. |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 50 Registered: Feb-06 | what amp(s) do you think i should get to power them. Right now i have a kicker 1500.1 |
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Gold Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 2324 Registered: Sep-05 | then that will work... Just make sure u have a HO alternator... Ive heard 2 12 TSX off of 1200rms and it was doing damage... I would just use the amp you already got.. |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 51 Registered: Feb-06 | do you think that amp will be to much for them? |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 2805 Registered: Aug-05 | not if it is a clean signal.....the amp has to have power to make power... you could blow them with 300W....if the signal was clipped. |
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Gold Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 2334 Registered: Sep-05 | yep power In = power OUT its the law of the land, physics & electrical.. u can NOT get a CLEAN 1500rms OUTPUT; with 30amps INPUT current... (CLIPPED) it would be better with 200 INPUT to give u a realistical CLEAN 1500 OUTPUT.. (CLEAN) |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 2806 Registered: Aug-05 | which i why i have a 220A alternator for a 1200wRMS system! |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 52 Registered: Feb-06 | how do you figure out if your alt is big enough for you system? |
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Gold Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 2335 Registered: Sep-05 | he can think about it this way, the HO alternator is insurance on your equipment..  |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 2808 Registered: Aug-05 | you figure about 10amps of current for every 100 watts RMS so if you need 1500 watts RMS then about 150A of current BUT here's the catch...you still need more than that for your car's electrical system to function....sooooooo you will not get 150A of current to the amp cuz the car will draw some so shoot for like 40-75 more than what you need |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 53 Registered: Feb-06 | is there a website where i could purchase a H.O. alt? |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 7352 Registered: Jul-05 | use this guide 4 ur current draw needs http://wickedcases.com/caraudio/charging.html |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 54 Registered: Feb-06 | what websites can i buy treos from? |
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Gold Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 2498 Registered: Sep-04 | its best to buy them form a dealer. call treo and ask for the closest dealer to you... other than that there is a website though... search for the thread that asks where to get treo... it has the link in there... Ho alts... www.excessiveamperage.com |
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Bronze Member Username: SwisherMarianna, FL Post Number: 37 Registered: Apr-06 | you could get a quote for a HO alt in the accessories section i think by Nate @ excessive amperage(owner of www.excessiveamperage.com) i dont think anyone has heard a complaint about his alts |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 55 Registered: Feb-06 | what would be some other good amps for thoes subs |
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Bronze Member Username: DrivingrecklessNuthingsville, Florida United state... Post Number: 67 Registered: Apr-06 | "then that will work... Just make sure u have a HO alternator... Ive heard 2 12 TSX off of 1200rms and it was doing damage... I would just use the amp you already got.. " did u mean the subs were hurting or the ppl around it |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 57 Registered: Feb-06 | hmmm..... now im having second thought. Now i kinda wanna get 1 15" treo SSX. It just looks bigger and meaner. |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 62 Registered: Feb-06 | i contacted treo today and they said the retail for a 15" ssx was $800....holyshit! Thats a little more then im wanting to pay, but do you think its worth the money? all i want is a setup that will get to the mid 140's without a problem. if you think there are any other options, please tell.......but i would like if they were treos. |
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Gold Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 2522 Registered: Sep-04 | a 12 ssx properly power and installed will hit mid 140s. but id get 2 15 tsx or ssi subs over the ssx. i bet one SSi 15 with like 1200w rms would get louder than you think.... or maybe even try the 18 with 1200-1500w rms. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3578 Registered: Feb-05 | Guys, with 900 watts rms @ 4 ohm supposedly available by my Arc Audio 1500-XXK Im having a hard time deciding to go with a Treo TSX or a SSI I was thinking if i go with the 10 TSX ported i could take advantage of that 900 watts and get the most ouf of that sub or i could settle with the 10 SSI. This is for a everday setup that can get loud with good sq also. |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 63 Registered: Feb-06 | id get the TSX |
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Gold Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 2528 Registered: Sep-04 | if get the ssi. ssi will have less chance of malfunction and it sounds better. a 10 tsx vs a 10 ssi with 900w... in spl maybe the same. but sq is the ssi. so unless you want to save like 70 bucks id get the ssi |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3579 Registered: Feb-05 | So the TSX and SSI will both give me the same output if i tested both of them and gave them 900 watts ? |
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Gold Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 2539 Registered: Sep-04 | im not telling you. im assuming. i have yet to compare them side by side. i forget what voice coils are on the one i just bought. if its d2 ohm then i can hook it up to a sx500.2 which my friend has his 10 tsx on. i could compare them great that way. but i would think they will have about the same output but the ssi be cleaer. although 1 10 isnt going to be as loud as ur old setup. the 2 12w6v2s.... atleast it would be crazy if 1 10 was lol. |
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Silver Member Username: JakeyplaysbassSt. Louis, MO Post Number: 913 Registered: Jul-05 | mo you need the SSi. |
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Gold Member Username: Suleman36Maryland U.S.A. Post Number: 3580 Registered: Feb-05 | Yeah but im also going ported with more power, so keep that in mind. |
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Bronze Member Username: Logan__tillePost Number: 64 Registered: Feb-06 | ok....i think i might just get 2 12" TSX 4ohm model and a Hifonics BXi 1606D. |
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