Which Pioneer Subwoofer? (for my 70amp alternator)
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Silver Member Username: PanamanianPanama cityPanama Post Number: 104 Registered: Aug-05 | TS-W306DVC = 1000w peak, 400w rms TS-W305F = 800w peak, 300w rms With any of those subwoofer I'm planning to use the XPLOD XM-502Z (and please DO NOT TELL ME TO STAY AWAY FROM SONY), I just want to know if will my subs work with this amp? AMP is: 100W x 2 (max @ 4 Ohms) · 125W x 2 (max @ 2 Ohms) · 250W x 1 (max @ 4 Ohms) · 50W RMS x 2 @ 4 Ohms · 60W RMS x 2 @ 2 Ohms · 120W RMS x 1 @ 4 Ohms Since it will be only one 12" sub of those listed there and they both are at 4ohms, It will be 120w rms to feed 300w rms or 400w rms Will that sound weak? normal? good? Will I burn or damage anything? ------ Also Could my alternator be good with only that? ------ thanks |
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Bronze Member Username: N2audioLawrence, Ks USA Post Number: 58 Registered: Mar-04 | your alternator won't even notice 120w. You could run 4 or 5 of those amps w/o a problem, probably more. With a good ported enclosure it may sound OK. You won't be breaking any SPL records. nothing will be damaged. |
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Silver Member Username: Graphix1Santa Rosa Heights, Arima Trinidad & T... Post Number: 298 Registered: Oct-05 | hey Panamanian,i got 1 of those pio 306 subs and i hate the fcking thing its the worst sub ive ever come across,im not saying dont buy it im just sayin that its a piece of crap but if ur on a budget id go with it,cause u get what u pay for. |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 3954 Registered: Jul-05 | AGREED ^^^ i also own 2 of em - so i know u will be severly underpowering that sub I remember in 1 of ur posts that u said u all also get Alpine subs - @ least get a type S model instead of that pio sub ..... |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 3956 Registered: Jul-05 | heck , i like my old cheap @ss 12" Rockwood subs more than my pio subs ..... |
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Silver Member Username: Graphix1Santa Rosa Heights, Arima Trinidad & T... Post Number: 300 Registered: Oct-05 | heh heh.....i like my 2 dolla tweeters better....after all they put out more bass than that pio |
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Silver Member Username: PanamanianPanama cityPanama Post Number: 107 Registered: Aug-05 | I have news for you guys, yesterday I invested about U$ 300.00 in this: --------------------------- XPLOD AMPLIFIER XM-2200GTX (1200w peak, 500w rms x 1) ---- http://www.sony.com.pa/corporate?page=productosDetalles&model=XM-2200GTX&top=107 2 --------------------------- HEADUNIT PIONEER DEH-3770MP ---- http://www.pioneer-latin.com/mainhost/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id= 135&Itemid=118 --------------------------- SUBWOOFER XPLOD XS-L102P5 (1200w peak,330w rms) ---- http://www.sony.com.pa/corporate?page=productosDetalles&top=1061&model=XS-L102P5 Perhaps for you guys it's an entry level system, With that Amplifier / Subwoofer combo, Will it sound good? or a little bit overpowered? |
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Silver Member Username: Baseball1187Columbia, SC Post Number: 375 Registered: Dec-04 | depends on what your idea of "sounding good" is. Overpowered, depends... the amp is overrated, so is the sub. You get what you pay for... |
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Bronze Member Username: N2audioLawrence, Ks USA Post Number: 69 Registered: Mar-04 | A good enclosure is key - get that right and it should work well. Be conservative with the gains. Contrary to most's beliefs Sony amps are pretty accurately rated and a 500w amp is plenty to cause problems for that sub. Use some common sense and it should serve you well for a long time. |
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Bronze Member Username: N2audioLawrence, Ks USA Post Number: 70 Registered: Mar-04 | A good enclosure is key - get that right and it should work well. Be conservative with the gains. Contrary to most's beliefs Sony amps are pretty accurately rated and a 500w amp is plenty to cause problems for that sub. Use some common sense and it should serve you well for a long time. |
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Silver Member Username: PanamanianPanama cityPanama Post Number: 108 Registered: Aug-05 | OPTIDRIVEN, how should the gain be set? half? 2/4? 3/4? maximum? (knowing the values and power of both amp and sub) |
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Bronze Member Username: N2audioLawrence, Ks USA Post Number: 71 Registered: Mar-04 | A good enclosure is key - get that right and it should work well. Be conservative with the gains. Contrary to most's beliefs Sony amps are pretty accurately rated and a 500w amp is plenty to cause problems for that sub. Use some common sense and it should serve you well for a long time. |
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Bronze Member Username: N2audioLawrence, Ks USA Post Number: 72 Registered: Mar-04 | There's really no way to say - it's relative to your HU. I've always set mine by ear and I've never damaged a speaker. What I do is start with it at the lowest point (quietest), set your crossover to high pass around 80 hz, put in a cd, turn the gain up until the sound gets distorted and back it off a bit (1/8 turn or so). With your amp power/sub power ratio you might back it off a bit more. As with anything - if you hear something that doesn't sound right, turn the volume down. (sorry about the dbl post) |
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Silver Member Username: PanamanianPanama cityPanama Post Number: 109 Registered: Aug-05 | you should give me your msn or something to be clearer.  hmmmm, ok I start at the lowest point right? but with the headunit volume low? loud? |
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Bronze Member Username: N2audioLawrence, Ks USA Post Number: 73 Registered: Mar-04 | Forgot a step - set your hu volume to about 3/4 when you set the gain. That should be about right to get a strong signal from the HU to the amp w/o any distortion. Your amp is rated for up to 6v input signal. Your pioneer should be around 2v at maximum listening volume - so I would expect your gain to be around 1/2, probably a little less. |
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Silver Member Username: PanamanianPanama cityPanama Post Number: 110 Registered: Aug-05 | 2.2v from my headunit (according to booklet). You told me that a good enclosure is the key, but does that mean that I could buy a pre-made enclosure for one 10" subwoofer? sealed and with Vas (liters) 52.5 Fs (Hz) 26.6 Qts 0.41 Xmax (millimeters) 6.2 Sealed box volume: 0.93 cubic feet Ported box volume: 0.78 cubic feet Recommended Q-Logic Box Type: 2 by the way, what's "Q-LOGIC BOX"? a material? |
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Bronze Member Username: N2audioLawrence, Ks USA Post Number: 79 Registered: Mar-04 | Qlogic's just a brand. Sealed would be the simplest way to go. Just find something .75-1.0 cf preferably made of MDF and it should work well. |
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