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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | Ok well..... where to start I have a 89 lincoln towncar and i want some bangs in my trunk that kick these kids systems in the dirt... im not very knowledgable on car audio equipment so if you could use "lamen" terms i guess so i might be asking some questions you all find dumb.. but i want my subs to bang extremely hard, but not sound all shi*ty, like ive heard alot of peoples... sounds good on the outside but the inside isnt good, the voice and all is distorted, dunno why that is? not strong enough amp? or just shi*ty sub? but anyways so money is not a big issue but i dont wanna be spending out my a*s, and i dont wanna lowball the sh*t i was thinking of getting 2, JL 15W3v2 and erm im not sure even what type of amp i want.. sh*t i dont know if JLs are really worth it... i heard they are good but your paying a sh*tload for the name when you can find just as good for cheaper? but now, my car currently has 2 6x9's in it, they are pioneers and i got 2 6 1/2's in the their too that are pioneer.... i was told they were pretty good... i was also told maybe i should get a small amp for the 6x9's and the another one for the 6 1/2's... any ideas on that? so the subs i want? good idea? bad idea? know any better directions? im always down for saving money.... and then what kinda amp would you suggest with the subs... also since i think my car is pretty old ima need something for the battery? for all the power in the trunk ima have? and i also heard something about ways to keep your trunk from rattling, like some type of lining or something (im clueless) haha and i read somewhere about neon or led lights that "bounce" with the bass levels.... wow seems like i wrote alot... so, thnx in advance for all the help... |
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Bronze Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 93 Registered: Nov-05 | if you want to show off, get an re audio mt 12". www.reaudio.com |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | alex, just 1, 12"? how much is the price range for these? and what kinda amp would you suggest? |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 3120 Registered: Jul-05 | take a thorough read here then post back with some ideas u have http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-ymhkeYjMfQy/learningcenter/car/ |
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Bronze Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 97 Registered: Nov-05 | MT10- $409 MT12- $419 MT15- $449 MT18- $479 those are the old prices. on dec.5 to dec.31 re is having a group buy. their prices are: mt 10"-$370 mt 12"-$385 mt 15"-$400 mt 18"-$425 prices include shipping.it might be good to buy a 18" mt. its 2500-5000 watts rms. you could get an orion 2500d, 2500 watts rms at 1 ohm |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | im having troubles even finding a place to buy these at..... it seems for 1 15" its gonna cost $570-$650 and for 1 12" its gonna cost $530-$620 and 1 18" its gonna cost $625-$710 but i had to convert those from euro prices.... |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | crap, didnt notice yall posted all that scratch that post above... thanks for all the help guys |
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Silver Member Username: UcfsaxmanOviedo/orlando, Fl Post Number: 326 Registered: May-05 | Jl is high quality 2 15 w3v2's would sound very good as far as an amp for them you could do the JL 1000/1 if that is too expensive try jbl kicker or mtx you would need a mono amp that does at least 1000 watts. for the pioneers you could get a small amp somthing that puts out about 50x4 it would really helpful if you could look at your speakers and ifnd out their rms. you will definately dynamat or something similar like edead. an optima red top battery under the hood wouldn't hurt either. |
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Bronze Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 98 Registered: Nov-05 | are you talking about re subs? |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2097 Registered: Jul-05 | post a budget |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | ok umm starting with the box for the sub... ima prolly get the 18" i listen to rap, and well what do you all think a ported box or a bandpass box? from my understanding the ported box wont bang as hard as the bandpass but you get more levels of base... is that correct? so i guess itll just depends on my prefrence... i want it to bang hard, but i dont want it to have the base all sound mono like... i want to be able to distinguish the different levels of base if you listen to rap... go play "go dj" by lil wayne on your system... and you will know what i mean by levels... im guessing from how hard alone the sub will bang that the ported box wont dramatically be softer? but yet again then the bandpass wont dramatically have less levels of bass... i think ill get the ported box... but what do yall think? |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 103 Registered: Nov-05 | ya, ported would be best |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 3125 Registered: Jul-05 | i think 2 15s properly slot ported would suit your loud needs just fine ... |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | ermm a budget... well this isnt gonna be a one time buy, ima buy part by part.... but id say i dont wanna spend over 1500... alex, i was talking about the RE |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 107 Registered: Nov-05 | you can call re to get the subs at the prices i listed. as for myself i would like to get the 15" |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | so would yall say, the JL's would be better to go with or the RE... the website doesnt give exact specifications... |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 108 Registered: Nov-05 | the jl's would have more sound quality, but the re setup would blow away the jl |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | i read somewhere that the bigger the sub... like the less responsive it will be... so like would say the 1, 15" not bang as loud but be more responsive and have more levels of bass as the 18"? |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 109 Registered: Nov-05 | iv heard 1 10w7 against 2 15w3, and the w7 was louder |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 3127 Registered: Jul-05 | for that low budget then u have to go the RE way ...... |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 110 Registered: Nov-05 | rovin, do you have a price on re amps? |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | do you think the 15" will be better than the 18"... cause i dont understand why you would want the 15" if the 18" is only around $30 more |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 111 Registered: Nov-05 | the 18 can move more air, other than that there is not much of a difference. but the 18 can handle the lower notes better. is your trunk big? |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | yea my trunk is big... i know it fits 2 12"s im 99.9% sure it hold 2 15" |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 112 Registered: Nov-05 | are you planning on getting 2 15" |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | umm depending on total price... but i would like to get 2 15" what kinda amp would i want for 2 15" |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 3129 Registered: Jul-05 | i remember somebody posted its around $340/380 or so .... |
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Silver Member Username: BestmankindLos Angeles, CA USA Post Number: 966 Registered: Oct-05 | you won't have any problem putting two 15" subs in that trunk. |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 114 Registered: Nov-05 | a big amp.lol |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | it seems the 2 15"s would cost around $800? |
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Anonymous | If you have 1500 you could get 2 RE SX 15" - $480 Spend about $400-500 on amp(s) then still have 500 for an alt, wires, box and blow everybody out of the water |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | man, it takes a while for me to post or something.... but rovin what were you pricing? |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 115 Registered: Nov-05 | that would be a good idea also, and it would have nice sq |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 3131 Registered: Jul-05 | i was responding to this """ rovin, do you have a price on re amps? """ with "i remember somebody posted its around $340/380 or so ...." everybody's posting rather quickly on this thread & its getting kinda confusing ...... |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | i like that idea... but i cant find specifications for the subs... so i dont know what kinda amp(s) would be best... or wait... maybe this.. ermm |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 120 Registered: Nov-05 | sx subs are 1000 watts rms |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | any suggestions on a good brand of amplifier? and umm im not that knowledgable but what kinda amp would i want? a mono? |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 122 Registered: Nov-05 | i dont know too much about car amps. kickers a good brand, but re amps would match your systems |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 3136 Registered: Jul-05 | for what - the SX subs (1 or 2 subs ) ?????.... |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | looking at that website, the biggest amp they have is a 1200 watts X 1rms so thats 1200rms right? so would i need 2? theres gotta be bigger amps... thats like spending 700 on the amps? |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 124 Registered: Nov-05 | an amp or amps to power 2 15" |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | posting is going fast... but i figure i like that guys idea of getting the the 2 RE SX 15" so it would be amp(s) for that.... do yall think that would be better to go with his idea... cause i want good sq too, just not all bang and no sq |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2122 Registered: Jul-05 | 2 amps would be better, kicker kx 1200.1 kicker sx 1250.1 re 12.1 Orion 1200d Pheonix Gold 1200.1 Jl 1000/1, just to name a few |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 125 Registered: Nov-05 | go for the sx's |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2125 Registered: Jul-05 | also ur not going to need ur rear fill speakers, so dont worry about upgrading them |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | price range on the kicker sx 1250? |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2128 Registered: Jul-05 | 500-750 usd I have 4 and they are some of the best amps ive ever heard |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | so no point in adding a smaller amp to my 6x9s? what about my 6 1/2's up front? oh and before i forget... i want to really thank you all for helping me out, it seriously is much appreciated |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2129 Registered: Jul-05 | I would look at Infinity Kappa perfects, or Image Dynamics Chameleons |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2130 Registered: Jul-05 | btw why dont u register |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | 500-700 for only 1? or you mean for 2? |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 3141 Registered: Jul-05 | comps are always sold in pairs - might i suggest 2 pairs 2 = your new bass ........ |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2135 Registered: Jul-05 | 1 |
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JankThatBowl Unregistered guest | i think i will register, when you said "I would look at Infinity Kappa perfects, or Image Dynamics Chameleons" you were referring to amps for my 6 1/2 speakers up front? but you dont think an amp for my 6x9's will be needed? |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2138 Registered: Jul-05 | sorry, i thought u wanted to replace ur 6 1/2's, and u will not need an amp for ur 6x9's because ur bass will drowned it out anyway |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2139 Registered: Jul-05 | http://wickedcases.com/caraudio/rearfill.html |
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New member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 1 Registered: Nov-05 | man those kicker amps, kill my budget kinda.... i was hoping to spend under 1500... and those subs are $500 for the 2.... and then those amps are 500-700 a peice.... and rovin... ermm comps... i heard they arent that good but i heard the soloX are... would the soloX be buy one and get one free, if thats what you mean |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2142 Registered: Jul-05 | well u could get one of the others they all are good |
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New member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 2 Registered: Nov-05 | JL Audio E1400D 1400 Watt Class D E-Class Amplifier how about that? |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2144 Registered: Jul-05 | that might be too powerfull |
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New member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 3 Registered: Nov-05 | oh i forgot to mention... my friend has a 1800 watt sound storm amp, hes willing to give me for free.... brand new and everything... dont know if that amp is anygood... |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2146 Registered: Jul-05 | crap, whats the rms on that |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2147 Registered: Jul-05 | http://pub14.ezboard.com/fcaraudiotalkfrm27.showMessage?topicID=27.topic |
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New member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 4 Registered: Nov-05 | is kenwood a good brand for an amp? |
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New member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 5 Registered: Nov-05 | my sound storm is under the bad section LOL |
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New member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 6 Registered: Nov-05 | not infront of me... but im guessing form looking up stuff real quick its RMS Power @ 4 Ohms: 320 Watts X 2 http://www.electronixwarehouse.com/car/sgl-prod/amps/soundstorm/900.2sl.htm |
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New member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 7 Registered: Nov-05 | oh sh*t i take that back im 99.9% sure this is the amp http://rhinotronics.com/index.cfm/act/Catalog.cfm/catalogid/831/description/soun d%20storm/browse/null/MenuGroup/Home/desc/Car%20Amplifier%20Soundstorm%20Vanquis h%20V9002%201800%20Watt%202%20Channel%20Amp%20Car%20Audio.htm |
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New member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 8 Registered: Nov-05 | so what do you think? i saw on that list its not that good... but if it can hold up those subs until i can scrunge up the money for better amps... |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2149 Registered: Jul-05 | for the price u can get something on ebay, maybe hifonics, or audiobahn if u need something to hold u over until u can get something better |
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New member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 9 Registered: Nov-05 | its free though.... |
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New member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 10 Registered: Nov-05 | oh and i might get those image dynamics chameleons... the 6 1/2.. maybe 7 if they fit... they look pretty good... will i need an amp for them? or is that even possible? |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2161 Registered: Jul-05 | its possible, and u will need an amp for them, and if its free take it until u get something better. |
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Bronze Member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 11 Registered: Nov-05 | optima red top battery... ill most likely need one of those? and what about like capacitators? and i think ill get a dynamit kit to make it sound cleaner.... and do you know anything about like, the neon lights that "bounce" with the sound of the bass? oh and what type of wires will i need for the subs/amp.... i think ima go with the re 12.1 1200w amp (2 of em) |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2167 Registered: Jul-05 | I would get a yellow top, u really dont need a capacitator read:http://wickedcases.com/caraudio/capacitors.html also i would get the liquid sound deadner, easy to apply, and will not fall off.lol |
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Bronze Member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 12 Registered: Nov-05 | http://www.cardomain.com/item/IDSCX64 those are the 6 1/2's ill want? |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2168 Registered: Jul-05 | im not sure about bouncing light bass.lol, u should use 0 gauge wire for the amp, and 12 or 10 gauge will be fine for speaker wire |
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Bronze Member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 13 Registered: Nov-05 | are yellow tops better than red? because my car is 89... so itll need the most it can get prolly lol |
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Bronze Member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 14 Registered: Nov-05 | if that has anything to do with it... |
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Bronze Member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 15 Registered: Nov-05 | trying to think of anything else i need.... got the subs, amp, the 6 1/2's, 0 gauge for amp and 12 or 10 gauge for my 6 1/2's? yellow top battery, liquid sound deadner oh i need an amp for my 6 1/2's... and i should be set... can you think of anything else i need to know about? |
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Bronze Member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 16 Registered: Nov-05 | oh and i need a box for it... ported box i was gonna get |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 126 Registered: Nov-05 | i can build you a box |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 3151 Registered: Jul-05 | when i said "comps" - i meant door SPEAKER COMPONENTS sets & NOT kicker comps Haven't seen so many posts helping out a newbie in such a long while - very good,, guys !!!!! |
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Bronze Member Username: JankthatbowlPost Number: 17 Registered: Nov-05 | ok... i think i got my system all together, ima be spending more money... but thats ok, will just take a little longer to get... so what do yall think of this setup, ima get ima put these in the dash http://www.crutchfield.com/S-CTxK41ByviV/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=51200&I=108427I these in the front door http://www.crutchfield.com/S-CTxK41ByviV/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=52000&id=essenti al_info&i=108607CS#Tab so thats $420 for those.... these in the trunk, 2 RE SX 15" - $480 the amps, 2 re 12.1 - $700-800 one of these yellow top batteries http://www.1st-optima-batteries.com/yellow_top_battery.asp - $200 oh and the wiring for the amp http://www.crutchfield.com/S-CTxK41ByviV/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=711&id=essential _info&i=575CP1P#Tab so ima need 2 of those? since its for 1 amp and ima eventually have 2? if so thats $300 a box for them, which i make take you up on your offer alex... now the liquid sound deadener... http://www.fatmat.com/liquids/ dunno how much ill need but ill go with a gallon that $60 and so ill need an amp for the speakers up front, but i dont know what to get any suggestions on that? and so far i estimated this is gonna cost around 2.3K so is my setup starting to look complete? |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 2224 Registered: Jul-05 | its getting there. if u dont mind ebay u can find that stuff cheaper |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 136 Registered: Nov-05 | when your ready for a box, email me at quagmire569@yahoo.com if you want me to build you one |
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Silver Member Username: Baseball1187Columbia, SC Post Number: 211 Registered: Dec-04 | for the wiring go to knukoncetpz.com and get their 1/0 kit. that saves you $75 right there. You also should be able to find an optima yellow top locally for cheaper than $200. you can also get those infinity coaxials cheaper on eBay |
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Gold Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 3166 Registered: Jul-05 | not bad @ all - i'd go with full components for all speakers though . google those model nos 4 the best prices certain sites now offer free s/h like www.onlinecarstereo.com which deck are u gonna use ???........ |
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Silver Member Username: Islandboy808Mililani, Hawaii US Post Number: 108 Registered: Nov-05 | hey alex how much do u charge to build a box and ship to hawaii.i need a ported box to fit in the trunk space of a scion xb. |
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Silver Member Username: Islandboy808Mililani, Hawaii US Post Number: 109 Registered: Nov-05 | just go to your local wallmart and buy the wiring for your setup.its like 15-25 bucks. |
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Silver Member Username: Subman15Lwarenceburg, Kentucky United states Post Number: 141 Registered: Nov-05 | what size sub, single, duel; sealed, ported;carpet, vinal. right now im building a box for a guy, it has plexiglass mith diamond plate(metal on truck toolbox's) on each side. if you want a box thomas tell me, or anyone who wants one. walmart boxes suck |