Wireing to 1 ohm
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 32 Registered: Sep-05 | i bought the 1200.1 mono JBL amp, and its 1200 rms at 1 ohm, i got this 5000 rms onxy sub, (2) dual voice coils |
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Gold Member Username: Mikechec9Http://www.cardomain.c... Post Number: 1104 Registered: May-05 | http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech/wiringwizard.asp?WoofQty=1+woofer&WoofImp= Dual+Voice+Coil+-+2+ohms+x+2&image.x=10&image.y=8 |
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Gold Member Username: IlluminatorUSA Post Number: 1840 Registered: Apr-05 | I wish more people saw that before posting... |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 33 Registered: Sep-05 | lol im so sorry guys what was wrong... i had this thing that showed u how to wire them up from 2 dual VC.. and it didnt work so i went to the JBL site and got it.. and i just fixed it.. and wow it POUNDS!.. wayyy more than before |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 35 Registered: Sep-05 | hey i got a second look guys.. and when i put the volume a lil up, my subs cuts off and it pops in and out until i turn the volume down.. i got it wired to 1 ohm.. im using a JBL BP1200.1 and this 15 inch onxy monster sub, (2) dual voice coil i wired them up like this http://www.jbl.com/car/support/SubwooferWiring/sub_wiring_diagram.aspx?type=2-4- 1 |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 1825 Registered: Aug-05 | if your sub is a 2ohm DVC, then this is how you need to wire it to get a 1ohm load.  |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 36 Registered: Sep-05 | thats how i wired it.. well it is 4 ohms, so i had to do it twice, i put the negative to the other negative. then straight to the negative ternmial... so i ended up with two sets of negative and two sets of postive |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 1827 Registered: Aug-05 | if your sub is a 4 ohm DVC, then their is NO WAY to wire it down to a 1 ohm load, only 2 or 8 ohm loads. that is why your sub is popping, b/c you have it hooked up all screwey. the ONLY way you can make a DVC 4 ohm sub to wire down to 1 ohm, is if you have another DVC 4 ohm sub with it.  |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 37 Registered: Sep-05 | i dunno if its a 4 ohms or dual 2 ohms, its this custom made sub that can do 4, 2, 1 ohms the magent on this beast is like 11 inches wide and 3 inches thick. sub weights like 80 pounds everytime i put the volume up it cuts off and like pops in and out until i turn the it down |
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Silver Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 979 Registered: Jul-05 | Hey Kuta - did u get rid of that quad-coil sub u bought & now bought this sub ? Its easier for the guys if u also post the model number of your new sub .....  |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 38 Registered: Sep-05 | lol i dont even know the model number, theres nothing on there, its just aluminmum, its the same sub i got after my two 15s, guy said it can be wired to 1,2,4 ohms i think i gotta upgrade my wire and voltage. im running 4g and their a lil twoo long also i shouuld do the big three and upgrade my batt, its a oldie |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1153 Registered: Mar-04 | sounds like your clipping that bp1200.1 REALLY hard. do you hear distortion just before the sub cuts out? does your voltage from the batt stay constant (>11.5V)? |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 39 Registered: Sep-05 | it sounds clear all the way, and its unexpected when it happends.. i have the car running too and it cuts off at like mid volume, well i have stock batt stock wires and 4g ground and power wire.. time to upgrade |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1154 Registered: Mar-04 | well, if it can really be wired to 1, 2, and 4ohms....that sub would HAVE to be a quad 4ohm. thats the only single sub config that your can wire to all of those loads. maybe he ment it could give 1 amp a 1ohm or 4ohm load....and give 2 amps a 2ohm load each. that would make it a dvc 2ohm sub for sure. ya get what i'm saying? |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 40 Registered: Sep-05 | yea, i asked him a again and he said it could be wire to 1, 2 ,or 4 ohms, the sub works to and it pounds hard and clear at low volume.. as i crank it up it cuts out. and if i turn down the gains ican turn the volume higher without it cutting out but not that high.. |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 41 Registered: Sep-05 | well the sub has 4 outputs.. maybe that wwould help.. |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1155 Registered: Mar-04 | what head unit do you have? whats its output voltage? and how high do you have the gain set on the amp? |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1156 Registered: Mar-04 | 4 as in: + - + - or as it 4 pair? |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 42 Registered: Sep-05 | 4 pair.. like 4 sets of postive and negatives.. + -, + -, + -, + -, im running the pioneer 7600mp and i have the gains like at half |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1157 Registered: Mar-04 | lol...yeps that a quad coil sub... i'll find a link for ya to wire that sucker up right. brb |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 43 Registered: Sep-05 | oh ok... so maybe i need a wire upgrade too or 4 gauge be good with 1200 rms |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1158 Registered: Mar-04 | oh...i just thought about something. do you have a DMM that you could use to be 100% sure each coils DC resistance? |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1159 Registered: Mar-04 | http://www.reaudio.com/html/ click the "tech" link on the bottom, then the "wiring" link on the right. the box on the left will then give you wiring configs...you have to go to the bottom of the box on the left and click "quad". then it will give you a 1,2,3 option...use the one that fits your needs. |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 44 Registered: Sep-05 | i dunno which one i should do u guys pick one since u guys have more knowleadge and one question to take the weight off my shoulder.. could this be the problem my sub is cutting off at high volume |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1160 Registered: Mar-04 | possibly...if the sub happens to be a quad 1ohm sub and you are wiring 2 of its coils in parrallel, then you are giving the amp a 1/2ohm load. the amp may be going into protection. when you the sub cuts out, does the green lite on top of the amp change to red? you really need to check the subs coils w/ a volt-ohm meter and make sure of their DC resistance? |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 45 Registered: Sep-05 | k i just checked and yes the red light goes on when the sub cuts off.. so then its the wiring then right? im really stressed out haha |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1164 Registered: Mar-04 | my bet is that the sub is actually a quad 1ohm sub (not dvc 2ohm) and since you have only 2 coils wired in parrallel...the amp is seeing a 1/2ohm load. that is why its going into protection. use that REaudio link i gave you and try wiring the sub w/ "option 2". please get a volt-ohm meter and check the subs actually resistance...lol |
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Anonymous | let me ask you guys a question if a sub says it takes 1000 rms and 2000 max, does that mean i should put it to an amp that pushes 1000 rms or with an amp that pushes 500 rms so the sub gets a 1000 watts |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 46 Registered: Sep-05 | well this is how i wired them up http://www.jbl.com/car/support/SubwooferWiring/sub_wiring_diagram.aspx?type=2-4- 1 so i ended up with two sets of negative tied together and two postives tied together.. what do you guys think |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 47 Registered: Sep-05 | alright, i wired them up like MW said.. number 2 and it sounded like before... im pretty sure its not at 1 ohm now because it aint pounded hard.. when i had it wired yesterday where the sub kept cutting off.. it sounded LOUder than now.. maybe i gotta wire it up number one? |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 48 Registered: Sep-05 | im looking for a volt meter.. i cant get one until monday but i try for 2morrow |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 1837 Registered: Aug-05 | yeah, my suggestion was wrong, b/c i didn't know you had a quad voice coil sub. but until we know what ohms the VC's are it's kinda like a shot in the dark as to how you should wire it. IF indeed your sub is a Quad 1 ohm VC sub. then you should wire it like this to get a 1 ohm load on your amp:  |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 49 Registered: Sep-05 | i just wire that way.. and it worked but i knew it wasnt gettin full power, it sounded weak but still worked.. no where near as before.. i think i know why it started to pop and cut out.. im stupid when i wired it up right.. i ended up with two sets of negatives and two sets or postives.. i tied the two negs to one single wire.. same with the postive.. so i went with 4 pair of wires to one set of wire..(one neg and one pos) then i wired it directly to the amp.. that could be the problem.. and the way i wired it up was http://www.jbl.com/car/support/SubwooferWiring/sub_wiring_diagram.aspx?type=2-4- 1 i wired them up thinking each voice coil is a sub(noob!) so i ended up with two sets of negs and two sets of pos.. that could be the problem.. now from that RE audio site, i tried option two.. worked but sounded weak.. i tried option 3, didnt work.. so imma try option 1, parllel, kinda makes sense, if i want a 1 ohm, i should wire the VCs in parellel right? man i didnt know it was gonna be this hard.. sub weights like 70 pounds.. |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 50 Registered: Sep-05 | ^^^ EDIT i ment i went to a 2 pair wire to one pair.. not 4 pair of wires to one set.. SORRY! |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 1840 Registered: Aug-05 | wow, i am really confused. you say "them" are you referring to the VC'c, or are you wiring multiple subs up to an amp. |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 1841 Registered: Aug-05 | b/c you show a picture of 2 subs hooked up to an amp when you refer to how you have it hooked up. |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 51 Registered: Sep-05 | yea im sorry.. i dunno how to edit the post.. i have one sub... and one amp... sub is qaud.. (4 pairs of outputs) and amp is 1200 rms at 1 ohm.. when i wired it up on the first time.. it pounded hard.. hardest i ever heard.. without distorion.. and it was clear.. but when i cranked the volume up.. it cut off and amp went into protection mode.. but i think i know why, when i wired them up, i finished with two sets of negs,pos(- +) ( - +) so i tied the two postive and negatives into one set of wire( - + ) im thinking that im pushing all that current from two sets of wire into one.. and not enough room for the current to flow.. thats why it cuts out at higher volume.. on that re site, i wired them up with option 2 and it worked but sounded week, option 3 didnt even work at all.. PS: thanks alot guys. for putting up with me.. seriously, i been to other sites. and most of the time they would put me down and just say go get a pro to do it.. or put me down hardcore.. you guys are different.. u guys like to help out with flamming :P. i admit i got LOTS to learn, but waht do u expect from a 15.5 year old kid :P) |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 1842 Registered: Aug-05 | hmmmmm, i wish i could help you more, but i can't find any info online about this Onyx subwoofer. i WANT to know what the ohm ratings on this sub are. lol |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 52 Registered: Sep-05 | lol trust me i been looking for over a week. cant find anything guy before told me he had 2200 rms running to it and hit 148 db. in a SQL :S he said its around 5000 rms im going to take some pics of it.. this is a custom made sub.. |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 1843 Registered: Aug-05 | yes yes yes yes yes yes. i love pics. lol |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 53 Registered: Sep-05 | [IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/sexykuta/4444.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/sexykuta/3333.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/sexykuta/2222.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/sexykuta/0a_1_b.jpg[/IMG] |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 1847 Registered: Aug-05 | hmmmmmm. that sub looks like about 4 different kinds rolled into one. lol |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 54 Registered: Sep-05 | lol yea custom built sub the guy says he said if i ever blow it.. i can get it re wired for about 200 bucks CDN |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1174 Registered: Mar-04 | i've only heard of Onxy a few times. most of the ones i have seen had black cones though. i have heard that they can get pretty darn loud in the right enclosure. take some pics so we can see all the wire terminals... oh, and what amp is that? |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 55 Registered: Sep-05 | amp is http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=JBL%20BP1200.1&btnG=Google+Search&sa=N&ta b=wi PICS OF TERMIALS [IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/sexykuta/5555.jpg[/IMG] looks like this but has four of them on each side |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1175 Registered: Mar-04 | http://www.realmofexcursion.com/videos/Onyx/ls10.1.wmv ^^^there is an onyx sub |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1176 Registered: Mar-04 | i mean: what amp is that in the pic w/ the sub? ...that pic of the terminals is kinda blurry...does the sub have a pair of terminals and 12, 3, 6, and 9 (like it was a clock)? |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 56 Registered: Sep-05 | that amp in the pic i dunno dude.. to be honest.. it was the guys amp who i bought sub off, what do u mean 12,3,6,9 the termials are like a push down type |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1177 Registered: Mar-04 | like the position of the #'s 12,3,6,and 9 on a clock. is that where the terminals are located on the sub? |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 57 Registered: Sep-05 | ohhhh yea ur right.. its every quater on the clock.. OK NEWS!!!!! IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i wired them in parellel and it worked.. what happend before was i did a stupid thing.. i wired voice coils in parellel in two sets,leaving me with two sets of postives and negatives right.. so i tied the 2 postives and negatives into one set of wires, so im pushing to much current into that one set of wires.. right now my lights ARE DIMMING hahahah they're flashing with the bass hahah first time time to upgrade wires, and do the big three, and batt this is my plans for next week upgrade to yellow top, do the big 3 and get a cap i dont wanna touch my alt.. it seems fine no need to replace it AND ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU EVERYONE TO SUPPORTED ME AND HELPED ME THROUGH THIS.. we did it marshall white haha |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 58 Registered: Sep-05 | imma format my computer now so i be back in like an hour keep the comments comming! |
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Silver Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 996 Registered: Jul-05 | Er - @ 2am u r testing your sub ! - how wacky is that ...lol |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1178 Registered: Mar-04 | thats not wacky...he's just doing what comes natural to a bass-head |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1179 Registered: Mar-04 | good to hear it works man...now get some pics posted...lol |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 59 Registered: Sep-05 | yo.. i been working on it til like 3 am every night ! hah now its wack doing the same thing, when i tested it first.. my car was off and my light started to dim.. so i wanted to feel the bass so i took it for a cruize and put the volume up a lil and it cut out again, for some reason i cannot wire my sub in parellel, but i can in series.. if i wire it in parellel then im gettin at 1 ohm(1200 rms) if i wire my sub in series i get only 600 rms, and believe me i can tell the different in sound with this sub, like at volume 4. parellel sounds 3 times harder than when i wire it in series, so im thinking i have to upgrade my wires and get a new batt? im running 4 gauge wire with 1200 rms, and my battery and alt wires are stock, probably around 12 gauge or something, and my batt is pretty old, alt is in good shape.. what do you guys think? |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 60 Registered: Sep-05 | bump any one? |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 62 Registered: Sep-05 | yo holla! im gettin welding cable 0 gauge.. 1.87 a foot! |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1240 Registered: Mar-04 | what size alt do you have man? also...when you get that 1/0 cable, upgrade your big-3. |
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Bronze Member Username: Sexy_kutaPost Number: 63 Registered: Sep-05 | im doing a big three also, i dunno what size of alt i have how can i find out? my lights kinda dimm too right before the sub cuts off.. im buying a 1 farad cap 2morrow.. ill have my power/ground wires by next week, then i have to buy my battery and do the big three |
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