And in what way did you prove "that Treo is one of the best(not THE best) but one of the best brand of subs you can buy"
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Because there aren't many subs that can handle that kind of power that aren't Spl subs(which sacrifice sound quality) do you have any install examples of these MTX's or are you just going to "bet" that they are better b/c they are cheaper(for a reason)
Just because a sub can handle a lot of power in the first place does not mean that it can necessarily get loud it could just be inefficient.
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then obviously you dont know a lot about Treo and i corrected myself on the mistake don't get your pants in a tissy.... 2 Treo SSX 12's in a 300zx hit at 152 db with one USA 2000x amp on each 12 do the math and don't get angry because someone makes a statement you don't agree with them it's childish
Yes, Treo makes great products, and they can be placed in the high-quality category, but that doesn't meen they make the absolute best products in the world. It's impossible to chose which products are the best after a certain point. They are all great, and they all perform very similar. When you start spending a grand on a sub, it's all preference as to which is better.
Not saying anything bad about Treo (I was planning on purchasing one a while ago, but the Canadian dealer was a dick), but how can you base an opinion on power handling alone? While they are phenomenal drivers, their price tag makes them quite unattractive when you can buy a XXX or something for half the price.
BTW, MT's have won SQ comps.
basshead86
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i didn't say they were the best i said they were one OF the best the solo-x the idmax the stroker pro are all perfect examples that fit this category and i KNOW there are others i didn't mention
The solo x huh? You must be even dumber than I thought you were to place that sub in the same category as the IDMAX and Treo subs. The stroker pro is alright, a little overrated though, not as great as people thought it was gonna be. I'd rather have an older stroker.
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i understand that, and chimpanzees can bench press 1,000 lbs. in a fit of rage anything can happen someone told me they had 2 shocker sigs in a snailshell box that hits close to 156dbs anything is possible(don't take that TOO literally)
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i understand that, and chimpanzees can bench press 1,000 lbs. in a fit of rage anything can happen someone told me they had 2 shocker 10" sigs in a snailshell box that hits close to 156dbs anything is possible(don't take that TOO literally)
"2 Treo SSX 12's in a 300zx hit at 152 db with one USA 2000x amp on each 12" still going on about that crap from yesterday. What I wanna know is at what Hz was this DB measured at.
Your not really proving a point... Your kinda just talking in circles. What two shocker sigs hitting 156 db's have to do with anything? Are you talking about puer spl subs now? Because before someobody brought up the MT, and you said
"Because there aren't many subs that can handle that kind of power that aren't Spl subs(which sacrifice sound quality) "
I'm wondering where the Solo-X comes in? Sure they can handle some power... but find me a pure spl sub that sounds worse than a solo... And speaking of power, just like BassManMike said, power handling isn't everything. Solo x's take thousands of watts to get moving, wow that's nice and effecient.
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he wont answer(probably sleeping) so i cant tell you but i have sat in the car and its pretty cool
I don't doubt that two 12" treo's with 2,000 watts hit 152 db's. With the right install, it's possible. We are talking about two 12's and 4,000 watts. This still doesn't prove anything...
ya this thread is pretty stupid, there are a lot of subs that can get loud and still have some sq, and my friend is the one who has the sigs, and yes they do get very loud but after a certain point when its so loud the sq no longer matters, at least to me anyway, but his car is set up for spl thats how he can get so high of numbers. and the solo x is a pure spl sub, but its sq is ok at low volume imo. and if want some pure spl subs look at, sigs, juggernauts, re mt, just to name a few.
i cant beleive i just read up to catch up with you guys lol, yea bass, treo makes some very great subs, but here is the fact.
Just becasue a sub can take 2000 watts doesnt really mean much, ive pushed my 15 Ti to with 2000 watts and it took it in a ported box, most subs can take that kind of power IF you know what your doing, most people dont, i know im not to good at it lol. also just because the sub requires that much power doesnt really mean its a good sub, there are audiobahns that take that much power, but i bet lower subs with less power can take them just because of the BL curves on there motor structures.
Ex. Adire, Ascendant audio, and RE x.x.x all use the xbl^2 motor right? well If they are all using the same motor structure than why do they have different power ratings, when an avalanch uses 800 watts rms, HALF THAT OF THE X.X.X whhich is 1600 watts, and these subs compare very nicely to eachother. the reason its like that though is because RE took the motor and tweaked it and sacraficed efficiency for sq. So the sub takes a LOT of power compared to essetially a very similar driver and yet doesnt deliver much more with twice the power. do you understand what im trying to say cause im confusing myself lol.
thats what i was thinkin but i wasnt sure if there was some hidden technical meaning behind it....2 15 MT daily driver, wouldnt that lead to deafness or somethin
JL W7's Eclipse Ti' and Ti Pro's Soundstream SPLX Memphis subs
There are a ton of drivers out there that can handle it. Also, just because a driver's RMS rating is lower than 2kw, doesn't mean it can't handle it. You should generally have more power from your amps than your subs are rated at anyway.
