oh you know.. the size of a house.. nah just kidding.. its for my XXX12.. im now debating whether it should be sealed or ported, all i have ever heard is sealed so im kind of leaning towards a sealed box that fits RE's specifications on their website.
If someone offered me a ported speaker box for $110 (ready to ship), I would ask "what's wrong with it?"
For a 55-60 liter box (2 cu ft) it costs about $400 just for the materials. I am talking about quality, not $1 speaker terminal cups and wal-mart wire. For a quality built box, I wouldn't use less than 1" MDF. Quality stuffing costs almost as much as the wood, sometimes even more.
Building 1/2" or 3/4" (wall thickness) boxes for loudness isn't quality.
ok, as most people have stated on this forum before, wire is wire. even if its from walmart, it has certain standards to follow. speaker terminals.. i haven't seen a pair of speaker terminals that are over what, $5? and no, they weren't clamp terminals. stuffing i don't know, and 3/4" boxes aren't always built for loudness. $800 for a box is outrageous. if you had to be a salesmen, you should probably work for powered4sound, they are known as overchargers. jesus man.. paying more for a box than the sub itself.
this is wire we are talking about.. 0ga wire is 0ga wire, it's something called a STANDARD. you can slap a brand name on it and sell it for more, but thats just about it.. or maybe you can choose a slightly different conductive material to make the wire out of (even though it would make what, 0.001% difference in the overall sound? it's also been discussed on this forum before.) and let me tell you, i've bought shirts from wal-mart, i've bought shirts from hollister.. that small difference still holds true. they made it slightly thicker, or out of different material, and slapped a brand name on it and said hey, pay more! just like powered4sound, they are selling boxes people can build for about $100-$150 for what, $350? that's what i payed for my amp, no way.
Mixneffect, so you would get the materials for $400 and then charge $400 more just to put the box together? That does sound pretty outrageous. As for the speaker wire, how much wire do you actaully use inside the box, for ONE sub? 5-7 feet at the most. Most people don't wire a sub with 0 gauge wiring. I am just curious as to how many boxes you have sold?
Dustin, I don't quite agree with what you are saying. A $2 wire is much different than a $15 wire, but the $15 wire has very little difference from a $300 wire. Things like magnetic shielding and quality RCA ends are tings not found in $2 wire.
The P4S boxes are extremly high quality boxes using a design that has very good results and the fact that a vast majority of people cannot design higher order enclosures if any at all, make them worth the money to some people. You can get audiophile quality without months and years of experiance and research. I wouldn't pay for them, but a rich kid with no desire to learn would. Can't blame them for making money.
I agree that $800 is a bit high, but nothing extraordinary. The last enclosure I designed would have came to about $300 for materials. I'm wondering what kind of stuffing you're using?
well the last box i made was appraised at 600, and it took no more then 60-70. but wire is different. it has everything to do with the thread count. some 4 guage wire may say its 4 gauge but it will have a smaller thread count then a more exspensive wire. 800 is a lot, but if it was for a tl(which i cant do) or a ss box, or just something complicated then i could see charging a lot. and here i cant get my hands on 1 inch mdf, or i would.
Thanks Hunter. Sometimes I need a good laugh. It seems the more you try to help, the stupider people make you out to be. I guess if you tried to help out a novice on how to choose a system, and you were able to get them to understand page 1 or level 1 of audio, they seem to think thats all there is to it. But when you try to give them a boost to the next level, they somehow become experienced journeymen on the spot and try to give you pointers. I guess with some people it takes a decade or two, just to get off the fence, and once they re off the fence they think they re at the finish line.
Don't get me wrong people. I have built many cheesecake (affordable) boxes. They sell like "Kryspy Kreme". But after the sugar wears off, you re still hungry. What a joke. Thats what I am talking about. You learn from your mistakes, if you want to.
I appologize if my estimate made you feel that I wanted to take your money forcefully. I just wanted to warn you. There are alot of junk out there for low prices. IMO, a subwoofer box that costs $110 shipper-ready, sounds cheap in all aspects. It's your money, your system, and your choice.
who makes quality boxes for audiobahn natural excursion 12s i know i know their audiobahn but unfortunately i bought two of them so im stuck anyways who can build a clamshell like box or a double shot for these subs and how much would you charge me