ok. i was all set to spring for eclipse ti 12"...i was just told that eclipse is very poor sound quality, and also is poorly constructed. talked to uscaraudio just to get some info, and he said "all looks, no quality" though he has installed a few of them. advice was to go for idq12 for my 800 rms. what do you guys think about these two? i thought both were good.
please help...want to do it right (sql) but not comp level or anything
I think that guy is an absolute moron. All of the top posters on this forum would agree that Eclipse is very worth the money. Their not the absolute best out there, yes there is better quality, but they are still very good.
And yes, I have heard Eclipse subs in person. The Aluminum's have amazing sound quality.
As for the IDQ, yes, they are very good as well, but you can't compare the IDQ to the Eclipse TI. The IDQ is built for sound quality, and it's not gonna belch out big numbers in spl. The Eclipse TI is an sql sub, and being much more massive as well has having twice the power handeling as an IDQ, they are two very different subs.
As for the 800wrms, I hope that guy meens 800 wrms to two IDQ's, because the 12" IDQ's are 350 wrms, and the 15's are 400 wrms.
thanks for the detailed answer...he told me that one IDQ12 hit 140db...found that hard to believe. he also said to run a single IDQ12 at 800 wrms, just don't turn the gain all up. will i ruin the sub? Is 800 wrms enough for IDMAX12? i think i can only fit 1 12"
actually the id max can belch out some pretty high numbers in spl. even though thats not what they are meant for. but i agree eclipse is a very good company, make good stuff. do this, go on there and ask him if he likes the tc sounds tc9 + and if he4 says yes he has heard of therm and likes them then tell him he is a moron, because the ti and the tc are the same sub.
I probably could get an Atlas for 100 bucks, but then I don't wanna turn around and have to sell it to get something bigger later. If you haven't seen, I'm looking into SoundSplinter now, or possibly an ID MAX.
I'm gonna put my stupid guitar on ebay this week, gonna take a hit in the price, but at least I'll sell the thing.
Does the Eclipse Alum come in dual 2ohm? I think it does. if it does that sub would be a great match to run at 1ohm. remember running that amp at 1ohm you are most likely going to need a fan on that amp I did on my 250g4 I installed them today built into a smoke plexy glass over my amp rack, it looks really good. My amp was shutting off after about 20 minutes of loud playing now it hasnt shut off once
Why is it necessary to get a fan when its built for competition quality? I was actually looking at the eclipse's earliar on www.woofersetc.com and i was considering the aluminum but there are 2 types of aluminum. 400 rms and 450 rms i think.
The 8100's aren't that much better sub. Not really a huge difference in build, maybe slightly better, and 50 wrms more power handeling. That's about it. I did forget about those though. I would say get an 8100 over a 7100.
subfanatic-as for the eclipse though, he said that it was poor sound quality, and that it wasn't great quality construction so may not last long. he does sell them, but tried to talk me into IDQ12 instead. now i'm thinking maybe IDMAX12
If you want a decently loud sq system get the IDQ12, there is not a huge difference between the idmas and Ti in my opinion other than i guess you could say the Ti is a SPL sub with good SQ and the IDMax is SQ sub with good SPL
eclipse has solid sq and great construction as well as warranties
Well for now i am gonna run my new CrossFire VR1000D amp to my JL 12w6v2 in a slot ported box tuned to 32hz with the amp at 500 x 1 @ 2 ohm at 12.5 volts and when i get bored i will put in my Avalanche 15 sub in a 2.2-2.5 sealed box and run the amp at 1000 x 1 @ 1 ohm tested at 12.5 volts.
Hey just get the SW7124's they are great subs. and if ya end up fidning the 8100's they prolly wont have any warranty, so get them 7124's and a good box for emm. I got mine still check emm out http://www.sounddomain.com/memberpage/772119