New and need help with a system.

 

New member
Username: Kevints

Ponca City, OK United States

Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-05
I have a small system to get by for now it's 12" JL Audio and I was thinking about getting better stuff. I might get 2 10" Alpine Subs type "S" with a Rockford Fosqate Amp bigger than a 407 Is this a good set up or not?
 

Gold Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 1500
Registered: Aug-04
Which JL's did you have? The w0's? If your looking for a step up fro JL, the Type S's probably won't be what you want.
 

New member
Username: Kevints

Ponca City, OK United States

Post Number: 2
Registered: Mar-05
yes they are w0s why would the type s not be what i'm looking for? See the problem is I can't really feel the bass i mean you can feel it; it's just really weak and i want a good hard bass. The place in my city told me the alpine Type "S" would be a big step up. What is the difference between Type "R" and "S".
 

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Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 1502
Registered: Aug-04
Type R would be a better bet if you want some good bass. They are pretty good subs for the money, a lot of people have them and are very happy.

In the Alpine Family, the Type E are the lowest, then youhave the Type S, Then the Type R, then the Type X
 

New member
Username: Kevints

Ponca City, OK United States

Post Number: 3
Registered: Mar-05
Okay so I should go with the type R than the type S. The people here told me that a Rockford amp could go good with this. Is there any other set up I can do? Because i don't want to be pushed into one brand i want to see my options so i was wondering if you guy's could help me.
 

Gold Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 1523
Registered: Aug-04
Yes, go with the Type R's. As for amps, I would look into MTX over Rockford. MTX is very good for the price. Also try JBL and possibly Kicker which will be a little pricier.
 

New member
Username: Kevints

Ponca City, OK United States

Post Number: 4
Registered: Mar-05
Is JBL and Kicker better than MTX and Rockford?
 

Gold Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 1529
Registered: Aug-04
I would say JBl and MTX are pretty close. Kicker may be a tad better, not a ton. All are better than Rockford I'd say, but Rockford still isn't the worst out there.
 

Silver Member
Username: Wojopro

Silverdale, WA

Post Number: 203
Registered: Nov-04
Id go for an alpine amp... or an older MTX amp.
 

New member
Username: Kevints

Ponca City, OK United States

Post Number: 5
Registered: Mar-05
Is there a better set up I can get besides alpine subs?
 

Gold Member
Username: Hdubb

Farmington, Nm Usa

Post Number: 1075
Registered: Nov-04
of coarse but how much do you want to spend
 

New member
Username: Kevints

Ponca City, OK United States

Post Number: 6
Registered: Mar-05
Right now i'm looking at about $700 maybe a grand the max because i'm still doing other stuff so I need to kinda watch the money if you know what I mean. I don't want the BEST but I want to be known and heard.
 

Gold Member
Username: Hdubb

Farmington, Nm Usa

Post Number: 1077
Registered: Nov-04
just for subs? or subs and an amp?
 

Gold Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 1532
Registered: Aug-04
I'll tell you what I'm doing with about 750 for subs and amps.

Ascendant Audio Avalanche 15" - about 325 shipped
Orion HCCA 275g4 - Hopefully 300 plus shipping (if everything works out)
Material for sub box - $50
Some new 2 or 4 gauge wiring - $30?
 

Gold Member
Username: Hdubb

Farmington, Nm Usa

Post Number: 1078
Registered: Nov-04
i think the wiring will run yo9u a lot more. here 0 guage is 5 bucks per foot
 

New member
Username: Kevints

Ponca City, OK United States

Post Number: 7
Registered: Mar-05
I think the wire might be expensive. Joe Smoe what site did you get your subs and amps from? What your buying how many watts is the sub and amp?
 

Gold Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 1535
Registered: Aug-04
sub is directly from www.ascendantaudio.com

amp is from some dude that marshallwhite found

I think 4 gauge is something like $1.50 a sq foot. Hunter, what do you think I should run, 2 or 4 awg? Let's just pretend I'm gonna be running that g4 at full potential. It would be about 1500 rms.
 

Gold Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 1536
Registered: Aug-04
a foot, not a sq foot lol
 

Gold Member
Username: Hdubb

Farmington, Nm Usa

Post Number: 1079
Registered: Nov-04
i would run 0. bigger the better and if you upgrade then you wqont have tyo cgange again. and a bigger alt. :-) i thought youd love that newbie...LOL...:-) jk i know you know about car audio.
 

New member
Username: Kevints

Ponca City, OK United States

Post Number: 8
Registered: Mar-05
lol nice. If you guy's know what a BMW trunk looks like then you know it's really small and the back panel is metal. The previous installer cut a hole in my metal panel. What a 15" say Avalanche be too much for my car? Or will it be as good as 2 10" of Alpine type R's
 

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Username: James1115

Wilton, Ct

Post Number: 1775
Registered: Dec-04
it will be much much better then two alpine type r's I can assure you of that. How big of a hole did he cut? that is one of the best things you can do in those cars that back metal wall sucks. I would take it out all together in the middle if you can. juts leave a few inches all the way around. Do you use Ebay?
 

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Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 1542
Registered: Aug-04
Well, the recommended max. fuse size on 2 gauge wire is 200 amps, 1 gauge is 250 and 0 awg is 325 amps. Lol, Hunter I don't think I'll have to worry about ever having over 300 amps of current draw in my car. I wonder how hard 1 gauge is to find? I'll probably go with 2, there's no way I'm gonna be going over 200 amps.
 

Silver Member
Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky

Post Number: 847
Registered: Dec-04
yea..i would go with joes idea on the amp and subs lol...but you should be fine with 2 gauge...or you can just buy the stuff im selling haha
 

Gold Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 1544
Registered: Aug-04
The only 2 awg on Knukonceptz is that kompressed stuff. Other than that they have 1/0 and 4 awg. I really don't want to have to buy 1/0 awg at 2.25 per foot, lol. I think it would be easier to just buy the simple amp kits with just power/ground/fuse/connectors but they don't have a 2 gauge kit, and the 1/0 awg kit is 70 freaking bucks.
 

Silver Member
Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky

Post Number: 852
Registered: Dec-04
if you go to woofersetc.com they sell powerwire by the foot
 

New member
Username: Kevints

Ponca City, OK United States

Post Number: 9
Registered: Mar-05
the hole they cut in my car is about 6-8"
 

Gold Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 1568
Registered: Aug-04
Sweet, thanks Sub, woofersetc has some 2 awg power wire.
 

New member
Username: Big_wattz

Beaumont, Texas Jefferson

Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-05
i got 4 kicker cvr 15's i need the specs to build in my suburban i want them vented and i got 2 solo baric l7 12's that i wnt to build to a spl level but i dont know what a cubic square inch is in inches ...please help
 

Silver Member
Username: Ffxdevilarms

Dubuque, Iowa United States

Post Number: 320
Registered: Jul-04
The guy i bought my stuff from including wiring gave me really good deals. From what i remember, he told me that he gets free Memphis audio wire. He gave me all of the speaker wire and amp wiring, as well as HU kit, harness, and connectors for only $100. If you want to get a hold of him, send me a private message and i will give you his contact information.

Off topic, my 15" Diamond TDX's came today. They look amazing. I am so excited and cant wait till my box comes.
 

Silver Member
Username: Ffxdevilarms

Dubuque, Iowa United States

Post Number: 321
Registered: Jul-04
the price was including shipping from Pennsylvania to Iowa. Forgot to mention that, sorry.
 

Gold Member
Username: James1115

Wilton, Ct

Post Number: 1816
Registered: Dec-04
cool chris. hey Hunter and mr smoe I went to woofersect and could only find amp kits I coudnt find speaker wire by the foot, I guess I am a retard or something.
 

Gold Member
Username: Hdubb

Farmington, Nm Usa

Post Number: 1091
Registered: Nov-04
no idea that place seems a lil bit shady to me. but you dont have to run that big of a fuse on that wire, you match the fuses with your amps power.......
 

Silver Member
Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky

Post Number: 868
Registered: Dec-04
http://www.woofersetc.com/product.asp?3=2646
 

Gold Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 1575
Registered: Aug-04
http://www.woofersetc.com/product.asp?3=2410

This is all I could find...
 

Gold Member
Username: James1115

Wilton, Ct

Post Number: 1828
Registered: Dec-04
thanks guys.
 

Silver Member
Username: Ffxdevilarms

Dubuque, Iowa United States

Post Number: 322
Registered: Jul-04
you can always try cardomain.com and go to their store. There is a whole lot more there for you to choose from. It will still prob be more expensive then going with "my guy" though.
 

Gold Member
Username: Hdubb

Farmington, Nm Usa

Post Number: 1106
Registered: Nov-04
www.knukoncepts.com


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