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Silver Member Username: Addicted2bassMiami, FLORIDA USA Post Number: 230 Registered: Nov-04 | My brother has recently had 3 12" cvr's and he blew all of them. THey were in a sealed enclosure 1.0 cu ft after sub displacement. and now he looking to upgrade. He has 400 dollars to spend. He wants anything that will be louder than the 3 12" cvr's. Thanx amp specs 3000W 2 Channel High Current Amplifier UL600HC 2 x 300W RMS @ 4 Ohm Stereo 2 x 500W RMS @ 2 Ohm Stereo 2 x 1000W RMS @ 1 Ohm Stereo 2 x 1200W RMS @ 0.5 Ohm Stereo 1 x 3000W MAX @ 1 Ohm Bridged P.S he wants more than 1 sub. 400 for just subs |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 587 Registered: Dec-04 | welll...how about 2 rockford phosgate stage 3's...they are rated 500 watts rms at 2 ohms...ill sell them to him for 300 shipped whereever...but i dont know if it will beat those 3...i just got these from a friend who got them somehow..said o well take them...only used once to see if they turn on...otherwise they are amazing..hit hard...just never had them in a box...see what other people say haha but on another note...that is an awesome amp...very nice |
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Silver Member Username: Addicted2bassMiami, FLORIDA USA Post Number: 231 Registered: Nov-04 | he says thanx but he'll pass. He says he doesnt think that it'll beat 3 12" cvr's |
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Silver Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 747 Registered: Jan-05 | Try, 2 eclipse 7104 alum's. They will work nice with that amp. |
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Silver Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 747 Registered: Jan-05 | Try, 2 eclipse 7104 alum's. They will work nice with that amp. |
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Silver Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 748 Registered: Jan-05 | Also, 2 12 Jlw3's. There like $180 off the net, and I'm for sure they will beat the Kicker's. |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 593 Registered: Dec-04 | if you can..find 2 eclipse alums 88100...a bit of a step up..not in price though |
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Silver Member Username: Addicted2bassMiami, FLORIDA USA Post Number: 233 Registered: Nov-04 | alrite thanx all,he wants 2 know would 2 12 or 15" L5 would do |
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Silver Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 756 Registered: Jan-05 | They will get louder, but won't have the sq. |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 604 Registered: Dec-04 | idk...those are the square ones right? |
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Silver Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 766 Registered: Jan-05 | Yehp. |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 617 Registered: Dec-04 | they have stress points in there cones...allows for less xmax and they are kinda known...for just..idk stopping for no apparent reason on people...id stay away from them if i were you |
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Silver Member Username: Addicted2bassMiami, FLORIDA USA Post Number: 235 Registered: Nov-04 | oh ok, how would 3 12" RE SE's compare? Or 2 15" SX's |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 620 Registered: Dec-04 | the two sx's will be louder i think |
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Silver Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 773 Registered: Jan-05 | He's right about the stress point's on the cone's. As long as he get's a woranty, he will be fine!:-) Not that familiar with the RE product's. I'm pretty sure they will do. |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 625 Registered: Dec-04 | RE is an aweosme company..no doubt about it...try to look into some jl, eclipse, Rf even has some decent stuff out there... |
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Silver Member Username: Addicted2bassMiami, FLORIDA USA Post Number: 236 Registered: Nov-04 | Alrite so he says he going to get the SX's, but thats enough talk about his system. I have no bass in my car. And just fro fun i have 2 12" RF p1's, and i wonder if its possible to break the 135db mark with those subs. Imma try and port the he!l out of the box and tune it around 35hz. Any one think it's possible |
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Silver Member Username: Addicted2bassMiami, FLORIDA USA Post Number: 237 Registered: Nov-04 | Alrite so he says he going to get the SX's, but thats enough talk about his system. I have no bass in my car. And just fro fun i have 2 12" RF p1's, and i wonder if its possible to break the 135db mark with those subs. Imma try and port the he!l out of the box and tune it around 35hz. Any one think it's possible |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 629 Registered: Dec-04 | i really doubt it...but who knows...go with a double shot ss box...maybe...see what happens and let us know man |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 634 Registered: Dec-04 | are p1's or p3's better |
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Silver Member Username: Addicted2bassMiami, FLORIDA USA Post Number: 238 Registered: Nov-04 | p3's will murder a p1 |
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Silver Member Username: Rob315Cuse, NY U.S. Post Number: 237 Registered: Jan-05 | i have 3 12" alpine type r's for sale |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1366 Registered: Dec-04 | NO WAY! there is no way those subs will hit 135db's. If you put peak power to them for a second for competition purposes they would prob only burp at best 120 and that is at best! |
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Gold Member Username: InvainMichigan United States Post Number: 1134 Registered: Aug-04 | I agree with James. |
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Silver Member Username: Addicted2bassMiami, FLORIDA USA Post Number: 239 Registered: Nov-04 | just wondering. LOL, I had a system with 2 orion 15" h2's and i hit 152, and i never played the subs over 130 daily driving, but im wondering if i get 2 15" SE's would i atleast be able to get 140 running off a jbl gto1201. I know theres a lot of factors to determine this, but im talkin hypothetically( i know i spelled that word wrong) |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1406 Registered: Dec-04 | yeah maybe! |
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Bronze Member Username: DankmanGranger, Indiana United States Post Number: 61 Registered: Jan-05 | How are those RE's i got a Hifonics BX1500D amp and how would a 15" RE x.xx be with that. Could i hit in the 140 range of decibles if i went with a custom ported box for the 15. |
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Silver Member Username: Zacdavis~Post Number: 472 Registered: Sep-04 | I know for a fact you can do a 135 with those punches.  |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1407 Registered: Dec-04 | yeah OK |
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Silver Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 775 Registered: Jan-05 | I have 2 10 inch Hx2's and I'm pegging 127 all day long on a cheep radioshack tester. There underpowered by 100 watt's a piece, and they are in a sealed box. If I went ported, and did some work, I could hit 135. But then agen... mine aren't stage 1's.:-) |
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Bronze Member Username: ZacdavisBeloit, Wi Post Number: 14 Registered: Dec-03 | James Longo Gold Member Username: James1115 Wilton , ct Post Number: 1407 Registered: Dec-04 Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 07:18 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- yeah OK You dont think so?, what makes you so sure. |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1408 Registered: Dec-04 | Hey zac, Maybe you can hit 135 in a ported enclosure tuned to 55-60htz pushing 300/piece in a burp with the proper EQ's and equipment that I am sure you have cause you are DB god but no way is he going to hit 135 in a DD in a ported box tuned to 30-35htz its just not going to happen. maybe the stage 2's but the stage 1's are garbage. |
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Bronze Member Username: ZacdavisBeloit, Wi Post Number: 16 Registered: Dec-03 | 135 isnt that hard to do man, my cousin did 136 with two punch xlc 12's in a crappy bandpass box with a jenson 250 rms amp. |
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Silver Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 776 Registered: Jan-05 | Just wondering... What are hx2's? Aren't they stage 2's? I'm not sure... that's why I'm asking. People underestimate RF sub's.:-) |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1409 Registered: Dec-04 | with his windows down and the sun shining on his as$ all day long. What kind of car a matchbox? I am just F'in with you. Zac 135 isnt easy to do either. If you know what you are doing yes a 135 isnt that hard but not everyone knows what is going on. |
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Silver Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 777 Registered: Jan-05 | Zac, hhow can I git a little more Db's with my system. Beside's going ported.? |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 684 Registered: Dec-04 | http://www.woofersetc.com/product.asp?0=451&1=459&3=2963 what kind of RF's are these |
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Bronze Member Username: ZacdavisBeloit, Wi Post Number: 17 Registered: Dec-03 | All he did was hook up the wires, the box was a best buy plexi window crappy bandpass and the amp was an little old jenson 250, actually, now that i think about it the amp is only 75 rms by 2 at 2 ohm. His car is a 96 mustang, and yes his window was down, lol. Also, his seats fold down, which helped. |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 685 Registered: Dec-04 | he didnt hit 135 |
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Silver Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 782 Registered: Jan-05 | They are stage 3's. Anything??? |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1411 Registered: Dec-04 | so he didnt truely hit 135! I was reffering to legal mic positioning and windows and doors shut. I am sure you have hit 180's or better with your windows down. we were reffering to two different types of measuring DB's. So you have to agree with me in comp situation he would not hit 135 db's with a pair of puch stage 1's |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 688 Registered: Dec-04 | how come you hit stronger db's with the windows down...i cant hear it as well in my car |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1412 Registered: Dec-04 | because SPL(SOUND PRESSURE LEVEL) that is the key term here pressure. when the windows are down it is harder to build up more pressure because in order to build up mass amounts off pressure in a car the amount that you put in has to leave as well. With your windows down it is endless the amounts of pressure that can be displaced. |
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Bronze Member Username: ZacdavisBeloit, Wi Post Number: 18 Registered: Dec-03 | I know, he hit 136 (taylor, first things first go out and buy a bass mekaniks cd, start at track 40 mid volume and start going up from there, be sure to have your car running, and wait a few minutes in between every 3 or 4 tracks, this will let the woofers cool a little and give the alternator a chance to bring your voltage back up, and when you find the loudest note/track, shut the radio off for awhile, let your subs cool way down, let your battery charge way up, then play that track at a higher volume. i can almost gauantee you'll find a full db by doing this, finding your note. Another thing is start playin with box placement in your car, move it into different postitions, even turning it around, flipping it up, back, ect.) |
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Bronze Member Username: ZacdavisBeloit, Wi Post Number: 19 Registered: Dec-03 | James, that is inaccurate information. btw, not sure if you were refering to me but i've never came close to 180's. Also, some cars are louder sealed and some are louder with the windows down, it is realative to the vehicle and the system. |
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Silver Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 784 Registered: Jan-05 | It is in an extended cab truck. So Playing with the box isn't an option. Where can I git one of the cd's? My frend, has a bass cd, but the bass isn't near as good as three 6 mafia's "Late Night Tip." |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1415 Registered: Dec-04 | how the hell are you going to tell me that is inacurate info it is the laws of physics my friend. In order for sound pressure to be built up it has to be displaced and with your windows down it makes it much easier to obtain high DB's |
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Silver Member Username: Addicted2bassMiami, FLORIDA USA Post Number: 240 Registered: Nov-04 | they're just temporary subs until i can get my hands on enough money to 2 15" SE's, but zac do you think its possible to hit 140 tuned around 35 with the 2 !15" SE's |
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Bronze Member Username: Rob932Post Number: 37 Registered: Feb-05 | im gonna have to agree with james on the windows thing i didn't know the physics of it but i have heard the diff in like 10 dif cars. and those subs will not hit 135 |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1417 Registered: Dec-04 | Hey Bass yes those subs are capable of hitting 140 wether you are going to be hitting those numbers depends on a number of things. Your car,Your box,your amp,all of your equipment will have to be tuned properly, unless you are zac or his cousin who can hit 145 with a tin can and a spoon. |
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Silver Member Username: Addicted2bassMiami, FLORIDA USA Post Number: 241 Registered: Nov-04 | alrite thanx |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 693 Registered: Dec-04 | hey will someone on here with an ebay account do somen for me...my aim is nushaganazad if anyone has it |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1421 Registered: Dec-04 | what do you need sub? |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 694 Registered: Dec-04 | nevermind i got someone to do...lol thank you though |
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Bronze Member Username: ZacdavisBeloit, Wi Post Number: 20 Registered: Dec-03 | James, I'm sorry, but your wrong. However, even though some car's spl will go up when a window is rolled down, doesnt mean this is a rule of thumb. There are many vehicles that get louder all sealed up. For instance, many SUV's are louder legal (sealed) rather than outlaw (open window/door). |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1426 Registered: Dec-04 | Yes because SUV's are typically not as well sealed as a coupe or a sedan. Not to many people buy suv's because the road noise is low. Now because of that they naturally let air out decreasing the air volume in the car so that Sound pressure levels can be optained more easily, unlike a well sealed lexus you would have to put the windows down to obtain the same levels of pressure at the same given volume. |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 696 Registered: Dec-04 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18798%26item%3D3877663004 %26 my question is...will anyone email this guy and give him my email so i can talk to him..i dont have an ebay account |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1428 Registered: Dec-04 | Hey sub you dont want that unit. All Eclipse's come with t security code and if they dont have it you cant use it. he does not have it so it is no good to you. Ask jonathan he might know of a way to get another code but i wouldnt get it. plus he has 0 feedback which is never good. I kow everyone has to start somewhere but typically you can find the same unit from a reliable seller. |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 697 Registered: Dec-04 | ok...well im looking for a better Hu all together...right now i have a kenwood...and if anyone knows of any or wants to look cause they are bored that would be nce...i want somen cheap...real cheap off ebay or somen lol...and i would prefer somen that lights up green...not neccesary though lol |
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Silver Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 797 Registered: Jan-05 | Are suv is sealed pretty well! You are eather talking about an older moddle, or a ford.:-) I know you aren't talking about a Chevy. lol |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1430 Registered: Dec-04 | hahaha actually when I was writing that I was thining about the Tahoe for some reason. lol! |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 700 Registered: Dec-04 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39755%26item%3D5756457867 %26 what about this |
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Silver Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 800 Registered: Jan-05 | That's what I'm talking about, actually in all seriousness, our's is pretty quiet. Doesn't let much noise in. The stock system that came in it doesn't sound that bad either. |
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Bronze Member Username: ZacdavisBeloit, Wi Post Number: 21 Registered: Dec-03 | James, i'm sorry, but you have no clue. |
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Bronze Member Username: ZacdavisBeloit, Wi Post Number: 22 Registered: Dec-03 | Most all of Jame's posts i've read have been for the most part insightfull and accurate. But ones like these last few show his inexperience with car audio and spl. |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 701 Registered: Dec-04 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39755%26item%3D5756457867 %26 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3293%26item%3D5755967755% 26 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3288%26item%3D5755969188% 26 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50557%26item%3D5755971365 %26 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=32827%26item%3D5755662265 %26 |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 702 Registered: Dec-04 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=47103%26item%3D5561509828 %26 |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 703 Registered: Dec-04 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=67764%26item%3D5756418195 %26 anyone think i should buy any of this..im looking into getting some moniters in my car as well...anyone know anything i can do to make this do well...for CHEAP lol |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1437 Registered: Dec-04 | Ok zac your right you win! It is what you say it is whatever that might be. I have been awake for the last 30 hours so I may be delerious but I dont think so |
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Bronze Member Username: ZacdavisBeloit, Wi Post Number: 23 Registered: Dec-03 | the alpine has only one set of rcas the nakamichi doesnt have a harness the clarion is a tape deck and the dvd player auction is for the tuner only(brain box) , not the head unit or tv and for the eclipse, james is 100% that thing is junk without the code |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 704 Registered: Dec-04 | thanks to you guys im not screwed..lol |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1438 Registered: Dec-04 | Hey sub that alpine is nice but only has one pre out, the naki is nice also,the clarion is a tape deck are you sure you want that, The cd changer is a cd changer lol, and there has to be something wrong with that in dash monitor. |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1439 Registered: Dec-04 | hahaha zac you posted as I was writing. yeah Sub that stuff is pretty much worhtless to you. |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 706 Registered: Dec-04 | damn...will you guys check out the thread.....guys check this out lol |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1440 Registered: Dec-04 | Hey sub normally when something is too good to be true it is! |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 3390 Registered: May-04 | "Are suv is sealed pretty well! You are eather talking about an older moddle, or a ford.:-) I know you aren't talking about a Chevy. lol" Cheap Hooptie-box Engineered Vehicles Relying On Lousy Engines & Transmissions j/k, although it does describe every Caprice Classic I've seen around here. |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1450 Registered: Dec-04 | hahahahaha that is the best thing I have read all night being a Jeep owner and all. |
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Silver Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 713 Registered: Dec-04 | NEONS ALL THE WAY |
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Anonymous | lol That's why you get a Honda! lol |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 3391 Registered: May-04 | Honda: Hang On, Not Done Accelerating Had One, Never Drive Another |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsDubuque, Iowa United States Post Number: 274 Registered: Jul-04 | Hey, i have a Monte Carlo and love it. Have anything bad to say about them? |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 3392 Registered: May-04 | As long as you know we're just joking and don't get offended, sure Money spent On New Troubles Every week Cars Always Rust and Leak Oil Chevy: Constantly Having Erratic Vibrations, Running On Luck Every Time GMC: G@y Mans Chariot Toyota: The One You Ought To Avoid |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsDubuque, Iowa United States Post Number: 275 Registered: Jul-04 | heres one. For Old Retarded Drivers |
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Silver Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 802 Registered: Jan-05 | Lol that's a new one for me!:-) haha Cheap, it's $50000. Unless you're a dealer!:-) It's loaded, sitten on 20's. Any way, love bashing other's car's. It's funny how twisted people will get! My saying is, "it beat's walking!" |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 3393 Registered: May-04 | Porsche: Proof Of Rich Spoiled Childen Having Everything That one's true Dodge: Dead Or Dying Garbage Emitter Fiat: Fix It Again, Tony! Ford: Full Of Roaring Drunks Heres one I came up with Chevrolet: Childress Hendrick & Earnhardt Inc. Violently Racing Only to Lose Every Time |
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Gold Member Username: InvainMichigan United States Post Number: 1254 Registered: Aug-04 | Jonathan you have too much time on your hands my man... |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 3394 Registered: May-04 | Yeah, I basically babysit all night while my g/f is at work |
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Gold Member Username: InvainMichigan United States Post Number: 1258 Registered: Aug-04 | I thought you were working on your house or something? |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1511 Registered: Dec-04 | so you know what my life is like! lol! |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 3395 Registered: May-04 | "I thought you were working on your house or something?" On the weekends. House is a little drive away from here, still not liveable yet. I watch my daughter during the week. |
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Gold Member Username: InvainMichigan United States Post Number: 1262 Registered: Aug-04 | Ahhhh, I see. Sounds like fun lol. |
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Gold Member Username: InvainMichigan United States Post Number: 1264 Registered: Aug-04 | Jon, while your here... www.ebay.com look at item number 5755142685 Think it should be fine if it's a refurb? My MTX amp was a refurb and it was fine. I'm planning on pushing an Ascendant Audio Avalanche 15" with it. |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 3397 Registered: May-04 | Refurbs are fine. You shouldn't have any trouble at all. |
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Gold Member Username: InvainMichigan United States Post Number: 1266 Registered: Aug-04 | Alright, I thought so. Isaac said he didn't trust refurbs, but I thought it would be ok. |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 1527 Registered: Dec-04 | yeah I saw those as well I was meaning to ask you jon what you thought of them. I know certain companies are better with refurbs then others but I didnt kow about the HCCA because Directed would have had to refurbed it correct? |
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