Please HELP!

 

Bronze Member
Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 13
Registered: Sep-06
Hi, I could really use some help with hooking up my system I just recently purchased. I have two audiobahn 12" subs (see link) enclosed in a bandpass box, power acoustik plasma series amplifier (see link), and Power acoustik 3.0 farad capacitor.

Links:
http://www.cardiscountstereos.com/catalog%20page.asp?Product+%23=AW1251TPAIR
http://www.cardiscountstereos.com/catalog%20page.asp?Product+%23=TS19202
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem%26item%3D160158915547#ebayphotohos ting


OK, my question is, how do I hook up the dual voice coils? at first a friend and I tried hooking from pos 2. to pos 1., neg 2. to neg 1., then pos. 1 to box terminal, neg. 1 to box terminal for each subwoofer, but got no sound. Then we unhooked the pos/neg 2 to 1's from each woofer leaving one voice coil and now we have sound. But won't it sound better with both hooked up? What are we doing wrong? I am new to audio and this is my first system. A diagram would be most help full showing inside my box, to to my amplifier. Help will be greatly appreciated, Thanks in advance :-)
 

Silver Member
Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 231
Registered: Feb-07
top one
http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech/woofer_wizard.asp?submitted=true&woofer_qt y=2&woofer_imp=4
 

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Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 232
Registered: Feb-07
try only hooking one sub up the first way you had it
 

Bronze Member
Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 14
Registered: Sep-06
here is a diagram of how we had it before and it didn't work.. hope you enjoy, homemade, lol
Upload
 

Silver Member
Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 235
Registered: Feb-07
try only one sub i don't think u amp can do 1ohm??
 

Bronze Member
Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 15
Registered: Sep-06
what do u mean it can't do 1 ohm? I'm not quite sure by what you mean
 

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Username: Chaunb3400

Huntsville, Alabama U.S.

Post Number: 12946
Registered: Jul-05
in ur pic..dont forget to wire up all the vc's...
 

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Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 16
Registered: Sep-06
keep in mind i'm brand new to audio.. don't really understand the ohm's and what not.. does this mean I can only have one sub going? Also, back to the diagram... there is a divider between my subs, what do i do there?
 

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Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 237
Registered: Feb-07
umm if u do one sub like u got in ur pic u got a 2ohms! if u do 2 subs like u had it wired its a 1ohm! if you want to do 4ohms u get less power!
4ohms is the boutom one in the pic
http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech/woofer_wizard.asp?submitted=true&woofer_qt y=2&woofer_imp=4
 

Bronze Member
Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 18
Registered: Sep-06
vc's? what are those?
 

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Username: Rideredder

Cornell, IL USA

Post Number: 1001
Registered: Sep-05
You can run one of those subs at 2ohms, or both at 4ohms. You could wire them both up so the amp sees 1ohm, but that amp isn't 1ohm stable.
 

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Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 19
Registered: Sep-06
well.. the way i had it wired i got 0 ohms because I had no sound? :-)
 

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Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 238
Registered: Feb-07
yep yep just like he said u may get it loder at 2ohms. the sub's u got are dvc! dvc = Dual Voice Coil, svc = Single Voice Coil
 

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Username: Southernrebel

Monroe, Louisiana 2 DD3515s, 1...

Post Number: 5341
Registered: Mar-04
you had that wired to 1ohm...you need it at 4ohm for your amp.


Do this to each sub:


Upload
 

Silver Member
Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 239
Registered: Feb-07
u if u want to get more power u will need a diff amp that is a 1ohm stable.
 

Silver Member
Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 240
Registered: Feb-07
he will be under powering them?
 

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Username: Rideredder

Cornell, IL USA

Post Number: 1002
Registered: Sep-05
At 4ohms, yes.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 20
Registered: Sep-06
okay, so my amp isn't very good basically? This is how i have it now
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It sounds pretty good that way, but it will sound better with the other voice coil connected, correct?
 

Silver Member
Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 242
Registered: Feb-07
i think he should upgrad his amp soon and the amp needs to be 1 ohms stable
 

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Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 21
Registered: Sep-06
just bought the amp :-(, I thought the only difference was 2/4 channel, lol.. (I'm very new)..
 

Bronze Member
Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 22
Registered: Sep-06
is the way I have it wired now the reason I have troubles with my amplifier getting hot? and Also my capacitor stays on 24/7 and kicks off occasionally, just went out to my car to look at my box and my cap was on...
 

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Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 243
Registered: Feb-07
go and try it the first way u had it on one sub only to the amp like the top one. it should hit now and come back and tell use how it sounds then try it the 4ohm way but u will be under powering and see what sounds better to you

http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech/woofer_wizard.asp?submitted=true&woofer_qt y=1&woofer_imp=4
 

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Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 23
Registered: Sep-06
okay.. well, I'll be sure and try it tomorrow morning and I'll let you know how it sounds. Thanks a lot everyone :-)
 

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Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 244
Registered: Feb-07
maybe see its bad to do svc on dvc so go try it idk about capacitor i don't like them just to the big 3 and sell u capacitor! the big 3 works better then a capacitor
 

Bronze Member
Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 26
Registered: Sep-06
o well i was told the cap would store power so the head lights wouldn't dim at night... what do u mean by big 3?
 

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Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 246
Registered: Feb-07
u add 0g power wiring from the - of your batt to the car! 0g wiring from ur + batt to ur alt! then 0g wiring from you engine block to ur are!
 

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Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 27
Registered: Sep-06
Oh! Ok!.. Thanks for all your helpful advice Quentin, and everyone else as well!.. by the way Quentin.. I see you are from Lincoln Nebraska... How about them Tigers! MIZ-ZOU!.. ok, so that was mean to do, but I had to, or maybe u don't even care about college football, lol :-)
 

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Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 247
Registered: Feb-07
idc about that game but i love the huskers lol 6-40 idc 2 lose!
but if u need a new amp get a usamps xt1000.d http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=5788
 

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Username: Nd4spd18

Northwest PA

Post Number: 3318
Registered: Jul-06
" i was told the cap would store power so the head lights wouldn't dim at night... "


You was told wrong.....
 

Bronze Member
Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 28
Registered: Sep-06
what is the purpose of the capacitor then?
 

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Username: Tatonka

-[Team Audib...

Post Number: 948
Registered: Mar-07
It's pretty. And some even have a innacurate volt meter :D
 

Silver Member
Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 249
Registered: Feb-07
to get ur money lol
 

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Username: Nd4spd18

Northwest PA

Post Number: 3323
Registered: Jul-06
Heh. Nick and Quentin about summed it up
 

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Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 251
Registered: Feb-07
yep yep
 

Bronze Member
Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 30
Registered: Sep-06
how come my buddies are going down the road at night and their lights are flashing to each beat? and mine aren't? lol explain that one :P... btw haven't tried hooking up the vc's i went turkey hunting today.
 

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Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 252
Registered: Feb-07
will they work a lil bit and i mean lil so u lights don't flash! but the big 3 will help out alot more and did it work like well told u??
 

Bronze Member
Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 31
Registered: Sep-06
"""btw haven't tried hooking up the vc's i went turkey hunting today."""

look up ^ :-)
 

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Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 253
Registered: Feb-07
what r u talkin about??
 

Bronze Member
Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 33
Registered: Sep-06
u asked in your last post if it worked well like you told me, and in the post before that I told u I went turkey hunting today so i didn't get the chance to mess with my system..
 

Silver Member
Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 254
Registered: Feb-07
then go do it now!!!!!!
 

Bronze Member
Username: Koondawg06

Post Number: 34
Registered: Sep-06
wired my subs for a 4 ohm load, sounds great to me, Thanks for all the help everyone!
 

Silver Member
Username: Kingandsons07

Lincoln, Nebraska U.S.A

Post Number: 256
Registered: Feb-07
i bet if u unhook one sub the other one will be louder
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