Speaker Setup Help
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New member Username: InsaniakAmerican Fork, Utah United States Post Number: 1 Registered: Jan-12 | Ok so my girlfriend recently acquired a 2004 Hyundai Santa Fe, and the speakers got blown pretty quick (we like to sing really loud) I know absolutely nothing about tweaking/changing vehicle audio systems, and I need to know everything I have to do to put in new speakers, and she also wants a sub and a new dashboard audio deck. I'd like to know what brands are both good and a little on the cheaper side. She doesn't want to spend a ton of money but just wants a decent setup, nothing crazy expensive or anything. The car has 6 speakers, should we replace all 6 of them? the 2 in the trunk are the only ones that are blown so far, should i just unhook them and get 4 for the ones on the doors? any help is appreciated! thank you in advance for your time  |
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Gold Member Username: Joe1234Post Number: 1183 Registered: May-09 | Ok, welcome Devin: You vehicle fits 6.5" speakers in all stock locations, take a look: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/hyundai-santa_fe-2004-car-speakers.html Safe choices for speakers are anything from Polk Audio or Alpine. These are very powerful and excellent sounding, for the price a top pick IMO: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_9111_Polk-Audio-db651.html For head units you can fit either single or double din. Safe choices for HUs are anything from Alpine or Pioneer. Make sure you get one that has 3 pre-out sets. If you are powering your speakers directly from the head unit you will have only 4 channels, I would leave out the ones in the rear end. For a very simple subwoofer system take a look at this: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_38389_300W-Rockford-Fosgate-Kenwood-Bass-Bun dle.html?from=857-49 |
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Gold Member Username: KaerfplSpencerport, NY USA Post Number: 1414 Registered: Jun-06 | Hey Devin, welcome to eCoustics. Just like Joe Durkham stated, since you are looking into adding a Subwoofer, there will be no need to replace the Broken Speakers in the Rear Trunk however, I would suggest removing them to prevent any further damage to any other electrical component. Some good brands to look into just in general would be Alpine, Kicker, Kenwood (higher end), Infinity, Hertz, Rainbow, Pioneer and many more. If you are ever unsure of a product, simply make a new Thread and ask people here for any reviews. Below is what I would personally choose for a low budget system for 6.5" Speakers: Pioneer TS-D1602R: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11269_Pioneer-TS-D1602R.html These Speakers from Pioneer will perform well off of a Head Units power, unlike the Polks posted above which would require more Watts RMS from an external Amplifier to make them perform to their standards. Since we are on a budget, lets start small in terms with a Subwoofer and you guys can expand later in time is she wants more bass. The best Subwoofer under $100 (in my opinion) for an entry level system would be: JL Audio 10W0v3-4: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_39835_JL-Audio-10W0v3-4.html A good Amplifier to match up with this Subwoofer would be the: Kicker ZX450.2: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_21961_Kicker-ZX450.2-10ZX450.2.html This Amplifier would need to be "Bridged" to provide the most amount of Watts RMS for the JL Audio Subwoofer. On paper, the Kicker Amplifier says it will provide 450 Watts RMS Watts at 4 Ohms however, since it's a class A/B Amplifier and considering the electrical charging system in your verhicle may not be a constant 14.4 Volts, it should be producing roughly around 300-350 Watts RMS. Also, you will need the proper wiring kit to install the Amplifier. This kit would match up with the Amplifier listed above: Kicker ZCK4: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_17766_Kicker-ZCK4-09ZCK4.html The only thing left would be the Head Unit and the Subwoofer Enclosure. Good brands for Head Units would be Pioneer, Alpine and Kenwood (higher end). As far as a Subwoofer enclosure goes, there are two different options, either Sealed or Ported. Sealed will give you a more accurate and punchy Bass line, while Ported will be louder. For Sealed, either create or purchase an Enclosure that has an Internal Volume (after Subwoofer Displacement) of 0.65 Cu Ft. For Ported, either create or purchase an Enclosure that has an Internal Volume (after Subwoofer Displacement) of 0.75 Cu Ft tuned to 32Hz. |
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New member Username: InsaniakAmerican Fork, Utah United States Post Number: 2 Registered: Jan-12 | Ok. these are great, i really appreciate your help guys. I've never done any electrical work with cars, and I only know a little about electrical stuff. We want to do everything outselves, and I'm wondering how easy/hard it will be to do this. Is there anything i need to know going into it? (i'm entering the Aviation Ordnance MOS for the Marine Corps, and i'm going to major in an engineering field when i go to college) I'm good with my hands and can usually figure out most stuff on my own, would it not be a good idea to do that for this? Is this something that i could figure out on my own by just researching it and watching youtube videos or something or should i get professional help? |
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Gold Member Username: Joe1234Post Number: 1194 Registered: May-09 | It's important to know how much money are you planning to spend in this, if there is enough to have it done then it can be a lot easier for you. Good easy installs are possible if you throughly research what you need to do before actually go and do it. It may not be all that easy without any experience but it is certainly possible. If you have any questions during the install you can always post them. I think the first issue is to decide what you want to put in. |
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Gold Member Username: KaerfplSpencerport, NY USA Post Number: 1415 Registered: Jun-06 | I've personally installed a system into a Santa Fe and on a scale from 1 to 10, I would give it a difficulty rating of 4. This is all based on if you have the proper tools of course. Like Joe Durkham mentioned, if you ever have any questions regarding an install, always post here about it first to make sure your doing something correctly. I would avoid watching videos on Youtube considering most people don't know what their doing... A few tips on your first install to avoid any problems: 1. Disconnect the Battery before doing anything. 2. Before drilling through the Firewall in the Santa Fe, check and see if there are any rubber grommets for you to use instead. 3. If any holes are drilled, make sure to sand down the surface and edges to avoid the wire from getting cut or scratched. 4. Make sure that all Negative Grounds are secure on bare metal. 5. Only install and run the bare minimum of wire needed. Extra lengths of wire will only reduce RMS Wattage output and performance. 6. Avoid making any sharp corners and turns when installing and wire to prevent pinching of the copper. 7. Run your Power Cable and RCA Cables on opposite sides of your Santa Fe (ex. Power Cable: Drivers Side, RCA Cable: Passanger Side). |
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New member Username: InsaniakAmerican Fork, Utah United States Post Number: 3 Registered: Jan-12 | Ok so i think i'm gonna go with the Pioneer speakers listed here: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11269_Pioneer-TS-D1602R.html but the suggested subwoofer setup is out of stock and we need to get this done soon before i leave for basic training in a month and a half. i need suggestions for a semi cheap but good subwoofer system and i need to know everything i need to get with the system with links to examples etc. and suggestions for a good place to buy head units with specs i should be looking for for the setup i'm going to have. |
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Gold Member Username: Joe1234Post Number: 1319 Registered: May-09 | So here is a list of amp sub combos: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/viewcat.php?category_id=103&from=857&f_30=119&f_9 8=382&sort_order=price_asc&in_stock=yes |
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New member Username: InsaniakAmerican Fork, Utah United States Post Number: 4 Registered: Jan-12 | ok so with one of those amp sub combos, the only other things i need are the 4 speakers and a head unit? and it will be ready to go? and which one of those do you suggest to go with these Pioneer speakers, will there be any sort of compatibility issues? $250 budget for the amp and sub. http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11269_Pioneer-TS-D1602R.html |
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New member Username: InsaniakAmerican Fork, Utah United States Post Number: 5 Registered: Jan-12 | ok so with one of those amp sub combos, the only other things i need are the 4 speakers and a head unit? and it will be ready to go? and which one of those do you suggest to go with these Pioneer speakers, will there be any sort of compatibility issues? $300 budget for the amp and sub. http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11269_Pioneer-TS-D1602R.html |
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Gold Member Username: Joe1234Post Number: 1320 Registered: May-09 | I'm going to sugget you a complete system and then tell me what to change: Amplified subwoofer box: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_22623_Rockford-Fosgate-R300-10.html?from=857 -49 Option 1 Head unit (double din): http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_42780_Pioneer-AVH-P1400DVD.html?SearchClicko ut[query_id]=7626296&SearchClickout[Ignore]=1 Option 2 Head unit (single din): http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_42777_Pioneer-DEH-P7400HD.html Speakers amplifier: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_33005_MB-Quart-FX4.100.html Speakers (2 pair): http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_9111_Polk-Audio-db651.html The Pioneer speakers are ok but don't get that loud if loud is what you want. |
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