Determining true RMS output

 

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Username: Playaslaya

Post Number: 3
Registered: Jan-09
Is there any way of determining the true RMS output of an amp that is suspected of being overated by the manufacturer?
 

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Username: Bonhamd

Traverse City, MI

Post Number: 1696
Registered: Nov-07
you would have to get it bench tested
 

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Username: Nd4spd18

Philadelphia, PA

Post Number: 9649
Registered: Jul-06
Not without a lot of expensive equipment.
 

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Username: N2audio

Lawrence, Ks USA

Post Number: 1717
Registered: Mar-04
multiply the sum of the onboard fuses by 10-12. That gets you in the ballpark.

Plenty accurate for the flea market brands.
 

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Username: Nd4spd18

Philadelphia, PA

Post Number: 9655
Registered: Jul-06
Not accurate at all..... that doesn't take amplifier efficiency or inefficiency as the case is with cheap brands, in to account.

Multiplying fuse size (max amperage draw) by voltage gives the most power the amp could possibly produce. Actual output will always be less. How much less is unknown.




Now, if an amp has two 30 amp fuses and claims 4000w *cough*quantum audio*cough* then yea, you know its BS.
 

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Username: N2audio

Lawrence, Ks USA

Post Number: 1718
Registered: Mar-04
Again...
Plenty accurate for the flea market brands

Efficiency??
C'mon MS. We're looking for a rough estimate here. That's why I said 10-12. It is a given that we're talking about cheap amps. It SHOULD be a given that any cheap class a/b is going to have roughly the same efficiency.
 

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Username: Glasswolf

NorthWest, MI USA

Post Number: 12393
Registered: Dec-03
the problem with using fuse ratings is that the fuse rating isn't a brick wall current measurement.
To keep this simple, a fuse rating is how long the fuse can last at that particular current throughput, for a specified duration. say, ten seconds.
As the current increases, the duration decreases, so say the fuse is a 20A fuse (at 10 seconds) then at 30A, the fuse may last 5 seconds. At 40A it may last 2 seconds.. and so forth.
It deosn't mean the fuse trips and blows instantly at 20A.

Most amps use fuse ratings that will sustain current for brief periods beyond the amp's max output so it doesn't pop fuses at brief transient peaks in current draw.. but during a short, the fuses will pop pretty much instantly.
 

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Username: N2audio

Lawrence, Ks USA

Post Number: 1720
Registered: Mar-04
And to that I repeat, yet again...
sum of the fuses x 10 or 12 will give you a good estimate on the power capability of the amp.
 

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Username: Glasswolf

NorthWest, MI USA

Post Number: 12398
Registered: Dec-03
if you really want the true power output of the amp, use it's CEA rating, and stick to buying amps that use CEA ratings.
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