What they are saying now is that some students report seeing "an asian male with an unreal amount of ammo draped on him".
32 dead (including the shooter) now confirmed by CNN.
The most f!cked up thing is that the cops screwed up yet again and there is a huge investigation into the fact that the first shooting occurred TWO HOURS before the second wave began. Why they didn't tell anyone what had happened other than a rushed email and didn't cancel classes and clear the campus is beyond me. Basically someone's decision led to at least 30 more deaths. Wow.... just wow.
I have a better idea BANNED FIREARM IN THE USA! Only the police security guards FBI CIA Secret Service and the armed forces should bear arms not locals if an intruder enters the home beat them with a crowbar!
personally i hate guns, don't care to ever own or use one. I'm not sure i'd be in favor of a complete ban because their are so many people who responsibly keep one in their home to protect their family in case of an intruder, but the easy access that people have in this country to a vast array of weapons and ammo is absurd....REALLY pisses me off when people think they have the right to own like a phuckin rocket launcher so they can hunt deer or some sh!t.
it should be wayyyyy harder to get a gun and ammo....like exponential amounts of background checks and screening processes, just my opinion.
^^^I hear ya. Like being able to by armor piercing bullets. How many deer wear bullet proof vests? Even automatic weapons. I guess the spray makes up for poor aim in the woods???
even if they limited guns to ppl w/ clean records (which they should) that won't stop this kind of stuff from happening. ppl will always find a way to get them into their hands
I need to offer my heartfelt prayers for the parents of those murdered students.My kids are mid 20's and would be on a campus like this. My thoughts and prayers go out to the wounded, many of whom will face a long rehab and trying to realize some sort of normalcy. I would also like to send out a prayer for humankind, but it seems to fall on deaf ears.
Guns don't kill, people do...and we all have the right to bear arms...obviously this young asian was sick and NOT of a healthy mind...we do not live in a perfect world and things will always happen...IMO, the campus police erred and did NOT provide for the security of the students and people AFTER the first shootings..U cannot blame laws or the weapons, ONLY the people tasked with the security and safety of others..
"Guns don't kill, people do...and we all have the right to bear arms...obviously this young asian was sick and NOT of a healthy mind...we do not live in a perfect world and things will always happen...IMO, the campus police erred and did NOT provide for the security of the students and people AFTER the first shootings..U cannot blame laws or the weapons, ONLY the people tasked with the security and safety of others.."
Like i said I wouldn't be in favor of a complete ban on firearms but it's a matter of accessibility. And it's human nature to abuse/take advantage of the power given to them. And the accessibility to firearms in this country is ridiculous IMO.
And if we made it much more difficult to own, and be licensed to use a firearm, yes of course people would still acquire them illegally. But that isn't the point. If we're not going to TRY to make things better then we might as well let terrorists blow sh!t up, let people sell crack to children and just live in anarch.y
Banning guns because people use them to kill people is dumb. Should we ban cars b/c I can run over someone with it? Should we take your steak knives out of your kitchen b/c you can stab someone with it? No, it's not a reason at all. Like it has been said before, people kill people.
I know you guys can read but i feel the need to clarify so i'll say for the 3rd time, i don't think guns should be banned. However, comparing guns to cars or knives may seem like a great case, but it's a pretty "loose" analogy to compare the power and intent of a firearm to that of a car or steak knife. Cars are intended for transport and steak knives are intended to cut steak...guns were invented with pretty specific and powerful purpose.
BANNED GUNS=LAWFUL PEOPLE HAVE NO GUNS, AND CRIMINALS STILL DO....When will people learn? If guns are made illegal, it won't matter, the criminals will still be able to get them.
Escape From Area-51 make Area-51 the largest state prison in the United States with a 100 foot wall surrounding it place the prison underground if any one should try and escape shoot them! That's one less gangster to worry about one less drug dealer to worry about one less gun dealer to worry about!
I dont blame the police for or anyone for the second wave..... no one Knew that was going to happend.... think about it.....if one shooting occured earlier they "thought" they had it under control...... so no need to cause confusion an panic..... just like 911 no one knew 2 planes where coming.... Its just tha way it is ppl always say whut they should have done after tha fact.... But i am so glad i dont know anyone that went there it woulda have been even worse than it is now...... I cant belive this happened in Va my home state but almost 100+ miles away
How the hell could the police think they had it "under control" AFTER the first shootings, when they didn't even apprehend, contain, or know the whereabouts of the shooter!...Of Course the Police should be held responsible for their irresponsibility, lack of actions, lack of evacuations, and lack of providing security to the campus students, employees and public!...I would immediately fire the Chief, supervisors, review/amend and strengthen the present policies...they failed in their responsibilty to the people!...cops need to do more than eat donuts, talk sh*it, sit on their lazy fat azz, flex muscles at juveniles, young women and the elderly, and drive around in new cars and send out 1 "caution" email, 2 hours AFTER the first shootings.... this is the worse case of irresponsibilty by alleged professionals, I have seen!...except for the George W administration!...heads would roll!..and I have fired a few Chiefs in my life with NO hesitations!
if someone was killed and the gun man is still loose running around with his gun then its up to the police to warn everyone around that area. for them to think its just an isolated incidence and that nothing worse can possibly can happen was just stupid.
not only should they have warn the whole school but any business or residence around that area.
I got bagged after 2 beers (.05)...I learned from a DUI school class, that .08 is legally intoxicated with alcohol, but all the cops need to prove is "impairment", which is .04...most people (depending your weight) are .04 after 2 beers in 1 hour and being stopped with 1 hour of last drink...also if U take almost any PRESCRIBED narcotic medication, U can be charged with DUI, if driving... it cost me $5200 ($2500 for lawyer who did nada), and loss of license for 6 months, and a 20 hours in jail, to learn the hard way!!
damn thats alot of money....LOL well okay u are saying this after that facts again i see where u coming from i realy do...alot of ppl died..... if the second shooting didnt happend would u have said y did it take so long for them to tell anyone.... im pretty sure they didnt not want more killing to take place.... and all u guys that are saying cops are worthless dont call them when u need help.... im not for cops realy....but it gets me when ppl just say things like y didnt he or she do this when.... u would have never said that if none of this took place..... think about it....
just like in MD or DC sum1 put a device on an atm to steal credit card info.... okay one lady said y didnt they have sum1 watching n doing a beter job to keep that from happeninig.... i said wow if that didnt happend u wouldnt have thought about it.....dont wanna giv ppl ideas....but are our gas stations guarded.....how easy is it to light a cigarette n blow the whole place up..... how hard is it to walk in walmart n set the clothes on fire..... thats just a few thing ppl are crzy and u can do but so much if u want to be free.....
u cant just point fingers and say its there fualt....its no1s fualt its a learnig experiance when somthing like this happens again it will be better
oh and another thing none of u all know the whole story ur only stating what the news said.... i have learned first hand tha news is not 100% right a couple of my freind were held for murders they didnt commit..... and were listed as being in a gang.... one of the main ones they pinned for that charge is about 4.11 an 100 pounds.... SO they might have seen him or done somthing about it....
and again the sniper (happend in my area FREDERICKSBURG VA twice, right across the street where the so called murders took place) the media dint tell you everything cuz they dont know everything..... 1 more instacne my church was vandilised....it was reported that an argument arised the week b4 that there was an argument in tha parking lot becuze tha pastor said nigge*R ......not tha case and far from the truth.......
so the what u hear on the news is not always true at all...... so actions might have been taken that we didnt know of..... and theres no need to point fingers.....
OKAY so whos going to flame me for my point of veiw guess im ready cuz u guys prolly still wont agree
The sad part about violence is the copy cat syndrome it creates. In my state they close a school a day from all the bomb threats, hitlists found, and gang fights that break out. The teachers don't want to intervene in fear of their own personal safety. I knew a teacher who lost his job over breaking up a fight that involved a knife. Psyco's parents didn't like anyone putting their hands on their son. How screwed up is that?
Campus bomb scares and perceived threats forced lock-downs and evacuations at universities in Texas, Oklahoma and Tennessee on Tuesday, a day after a Virginia Tech student's shooting rampage killed 33 people.
In Austin, Texas, authorities evacuated buildings at St Edward's University after a threatening note was found, a school official said.
Police secured the perimeter around the campus and were searching the buildings, St Edward's University spokeswoman Mischelle Amador said. She declined to say where the note was found and said its contents were "nonspecific."
At the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga, officials ordered three campus administration buildings evacuated for almost two hours on Tuesday in response to a telephone bomb threat.
The city's bomb squad searched the buildings but found nothing, campus spokesman Chuck Cantrell said.
Cantrell said there was no reason to believe the bogus threat was related to the shootings at Virginia Tech, but "we just chose to err on the side of caution today."
The third scare, at the University of Oklahoma, also was determined to be unfounded. It started with a report that someone had been spotted carrying a suspicious object on campus, officials said.
