MP3 Quaility: 128 vs. 320 kbps ?

 

Johnny A
Unregistered guest
Is 320 always the best bit rate to use when copying/converting cd's to mp3's ?

I'm ready to convert my cd collection and I'm not sure which to use ?

Thanks !

 

Gold Member
Username: Project6

Post Number: 2903
Registered: Dec-03
Try a lossless compression if space or compression is not a concern and if you want to retain most of the fidelity.
If you want the least amount of space occupied, go with 128.
 

Johnny A
Unregistered guest
Thanks, space is not a concern. Sorry, when you say "lossless compression" does that mean the highest kbps rate or would this require a specific ripping software?
 

Silver Member
Username: Arnold_layne

MadridSpain

Post Number: 363
Registered: Jun-04
There is something called "FLAC", free lossless audio compression. I'm not very familiar with that format, but you can maybe check it out at Hydrogenaudio forum.

I've also heard that lossless audio compression is done at about 1:2. CD bitrate is 44.1 x 16 = 705.6 kbps per channel, which would mean that you hardly avoid loss using mp3.

Cheers
AL
 

Silver Member
Username: Ojophile

Take the Eh Train to g...

Post Number: 287
Registered: Jun-04
Use VBR - Variable Bit Rate - if the option is available. If you're using MusicMatch, then you have that option. VBR ensures that the encoded MP3 has a consistent high audio quality. I use it all the time when I convert my CD's. Try it if your software has it.

Cheers!
 

Digimeister
Unregistered guest
Go with a lossless format. i.e. apple lossless, flac, monkey audio, whatever. MP3 are only good for casual listening. I set up a reference system with a Benchmark Dac 1 and stax 4040 headphones, and in double blind tests with anyone, regardless of age or sophistication, the MP3's coded with lame at 320 were identifiable 100% of the time as inferior to wav or lossless playback.
 

spaceman
Unregistered guest
320 kbps is cool. I do it this way all the time, and works perfect.

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turtlewax
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New member
Username: Dobyblue

St. Catharines, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 10
Registered: Oct-05
Stay away from mp3 - you lose key information in the track.
For example if you had two songs that run into each other and you convert them to any bit rate in mp3, including 320, when you convert them back to burn them you will not have a seamless transition anymore. There will be a small gap which will drive you mental.
Use any of the following:-

Shorten - uses the file extension .shn and compresses to roughly 1/2 the file size
Site - http://www.etree.org/mkw.html
WinAmp plug-in - http://www.etree.org/shnamp.html

FLAC - Free Lossless Audio Codec - slightly more compression than shn and the source code is updated, shn is not.
Site - http://flac.sourceforge.net/
WinAMP plug-in - http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=131643

Monkeys Audio - my favourite but still not used so much in the trading community. It's so quick and easy to use - more often than not shrinks down to 40-50% of the original file size without losing key audio data
Site - http://www.monkeysaudio.com/
WinAMP plug-in - http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=138099

FLAC and SHN are the favourites of most tapers (of bands that allow taping such as DMB, Phish, Pearl Jam, etc.) Monkey's Audio though is quicker and has a much nicer GUI than the others - it also incorporates FLAC as well.
That's my advice - mp3's suck and if your only concern is space, then perhaps they are the way to go.
Hope that helps. If you want more information on lossless compression let me know, but one of those three should be your method of choice.
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