As some of you I'm putting together an A/V system for my vehicle (Expedition '07) and now that I've chosen the actual speakers and subs (4 IDMAX12D4 subs, 2 sets of focal F165K3P UV components) I'm wondering what amps would be good to power those.
For the subs the manufacturers recommend 200-1000 watts for each subs, and for the components 200-400 watts is the recommendation.
Thanks in advance for helping me choose the right amps. Ask questions if needed!
I would look into more like 2 kicker 1500's or zapco whatever models. I would give them 750/piece. Are you running them sealed? if yes in small sealed enclosures you can give a little more but for a SQ application I would give them 750/piece.
thats true and false! so if you run one amp and you are going ported or small sealed you will need something around 3000-4000 watts at 2 ohms. If you run 2 amps you can wire each pair to a 1 ohm load and look into 2 1500-2000 watt amps at 1 ohm. With those subs and components you are going to want to get a good amp which I am sure you are well aware of. If I had that set up I would get 2 zapco c2k 9.0's and run each stereo at 2 ohms 1100 watts whats the rms on those components?
Yeah, of course I've been taking a good look at the power requirements! I'm still figuring how much power all that will require though. I'm still working on that. I think you can ramp up the voltage to like 20 volts idle. I'm not sure if that damages anything though.
ANYWAY! What about a head unit? We've got the speakers, subs and amps picked out now. We have to have a preamp or something right? I'm not sure because it is a video system and there will also be monitors and stuff to decide on AND A GOOD SECURITY SYSTEM. There's going to be so much I can't forget about.
But, let's just try and find the right head unit or whatever I need for now to handle all that stuff.
yup I can help you out. A good way to get a rough estimate on amperage needed is to take the number of watts and divide by 10. so 4000 watts 400 amps. Thats not exact but to find out more visit www.bcae1.com for all your equasion needs. I am going to bed but I will post back in the morning if you have any questions.
I did a lot of reading on that and I think that Alpine 9990 mixed with their Multichannel processor will provide what I'm looking for and will maximize the potential of the system. It plays anything basically that a Dvd audio/video player will play in a home theater system. It also has the features of a good home theater receiver and a 31 band equalizer. I will definitely have control over my music and movies, and in surround sound
I'm very impressed with that head unit!
All that's left is the in-dash screen for the videos and that's also taken care of with Alpine's in-dash screen.
Now all we need to figure out is the charging system, fuses, batteries?, cabling, and all that.
Thanks for your help, again! Am I forgetting anything?
ok as far as charging it depends on whaat you want to get into. I personally would run aa dual alternator set-up with a kinetic under the hood and one in the back. go to www.excessiveamperage.com nate will be able to help you out there. As far as fuses you wont know that untill you buy the amps you will be running. You take the number in amps each amps fuses are and add them together then use that size for an inline fuse. Wiring just go to knuconcept.com. that HU is a nice absolutely top notch you will also need to upgrade what is called "The Big 3" it is your battery to ground connection to 0ga wire, along with your alt to engine, and engine to chassis. man I am soooooo jelous you are going to make me do something crazy just talking about this
I did some calculations and the calc says it'll take about 600 amps for the amps at 15 volts running a test tone at maximum RMS wattage. I just learned that those amps have a regulated power supply, so adding more voltage on the charging system doesn't increase their output much(a few watts for a few volts).
That's not even considering the processors and the head unit, video display, and all that as well as the other electronics in the vehicle.
Thanks again! Also, would it be better to use dual 2 ohms instead of 4 since I could then give each subwoofer it's own channel of amplification at 1100/Rms? Well I hope I'm not forgetting much in the way of charging system, cabling...Oh yeah the security system must keep the vehicle from getting stolen, good investment.
HI.. COULD ANYONE HELP ME??... I BOUGHT A CAR AND IN THE TRUNK CAME AN CUSPID USA AMP.. ARE THEY ANY GOOD?? ..DOESN'T LOOK SO GOOD BUT IT'S NOT CONECTED AND I DONT WANT TO PAY TO GET INSTALL AND THEN FIND OUT IT SOUNDS LIKE CRAP
Ok! OK! But first I think I need to make sure that everything is what it should be and make sure I've made the right choice. Since the surround processor I'm getting is a 16.2 channel I can always upgrade later, which is good. I decided not to get a home theater in my house for a little while so that I can make the car better because I'm really intrigued by the car thing since people spend a lot of their time in their cars.
Any suggestions to improve the sound? Well, I think I should put the rest into a car SECURITY SYSTEM. With a system like that in there...man I think it's required to to have a GOOD security system to avoid break-ins.
Any suggestions on a good security system? I'm also wondering if different cable brands or types will be better. I'm running S-video for the video monitors, optical cables for the audio feeds to the head unit and processors, the Symbilink Balanced system from Zapco which is Anti-hum so I don't get any hums anywhere. Everything will be shielded. The Head Unit's final output will be 16 volts once it reaches all the amps. I just need to order it I think. Zapco has special in line processors that will tune the signal before it reaches the amps and everything will be good from there!
dude you sound like you have it all under control Honestly the only change I would make is on the components. I would go with either Seas,Morel,or Dynaudio but thats me. As far as security there are many out there Alpine makes a good one. As far as cables you have it under control man.
Ok I've been looking at some car security systems and decided the type I want is a quintuple horn system that when the alarm actually goes off, it can hit volumes over 130 dB, that should definitely call attention to the car, and hurt the thief's ears. I'm still looking at different types thought, so I'm going to get back to looking.
I think a good car system with all the things (motion sensors, glass break detection, tracking, remote start, other remote control, 2000' range, etc) that come with a high-end car system will provide protection enough for me. I also think it'd be a good idea to fit Ulta-Powerful add-on sirens to the main system in order to create an extreme burst of alarm power with a bunch of beeps, warnings, grinding noises, and whatever else will be good, plus the most extreme legal window tint I can get.
I think if I get like 7 alarms under the hood and like 13 others hidden around the car with high power provided for maximum SPL output that would be able to help keep thiefs away. I'm guessing it could be made so that it hits up to 120 dB+.
It'd be funny if I could put a Chrysler Air Raid siren on the car. It's so loud it can be heard up 50 miles away with the right conditions, 50! It was measured at over 140 dB at 100 feet away! I mean come on! I bet right at the siren it was like 180 or 190 dB, crazy.
What's really cool about the head unit is, if you play a track that is just digital silence on a cd, but turn it up really, really loud, it'll actually use the speakers heavily by using them to cancel the noise from outside.
Basically if you have everything turned all the way up playing digital silence the speakers and subs might be playing silence, making it quiet in the car. It's confusing, since they're not just using phase, they're using other things as well.
Well thanks again guys. I'm going to order probably this week and let it be professionally installed so that it looks AND sounds professional. Amp racks and everything, I think.
nice man as FAR AS 10 -20 sirens go that is up to you lolol the focal's are great components so you can't go wrong with them. Under no circumstances would I give the dealer who you are having install this your home address for anything, thats how 75% of systems get stolen.
Ok I'm going to order it all and let you know once it's all here. I'll then take it straight to the installer, and have the security system, alternator installed, and windows tinted beforehand. It's all planned out I can't wait. Well, see ya later, I'm outta here.
Ok I expect the Alpine Sources, Processors, and the head unit to arrive tomorrow morning. I'm busy, I need to head off to a business meeting. The Christmas season has come to end for me here, so back to business. Bye!