i went to my friends house tonight and he told me that he picked up 2 10" pioneers and a box at a garage sale for 20.00 bucks. before he bought them he asked if he could test em and they said that was fine, so we tried them and they work but we dont know the RMS on them, there probably not a newer pioneer sub, they just have PIONEER across the front, so if anyone could help me on the RMS that would be sweet -thanks