Atlas and Avalanche no longer XBL2
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Bronze Member Username: GeekbikePost Number: 96 Registered: Dec-04 | "We are no longer comfortable carrying or using XBL2^TM technology in our products." - Straight off AA's site. http://www.ascendantaudio.com/ |
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Silver Member Username: RhasslerGilford, NH Post Number: 148 Registered: Dec-04 | holy sh!t look at the price drops on the remaind XBL2^TM left over subs!! atlas 12-100 atlas 15-105 ava 12-200 ava 15-225 ava 18-275 |
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Silver Member Username: RhasslerGilford, NH Post Number: 149 Registered: Dec-04 | hey, is the rms on the ava 12 800+? |
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Bronze Member Username: Skyliner17Saint Paul, MN United States Post Number: 21 Registered: Apr-05 | just ordered two 12" ava |
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Bronze Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Usa Post Number: 79 Registered: Jan-05 | are the ones they are selling that cheap still have the xbl2^tm motor |
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Bronze Member Username: Skyliner17Saint Paul, MN United States Post Number: 25 Registered: Apr-05 | yes, i just talked to chad, owner of ascendantaudio |
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Bronze Member Username: LotusPost Number: 13 Registered: Apr-05 | I just got one av15 :D |
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Gold Member Username: FishyTamarac Ft.Laud, FL USA Post Number: 1149 Registered: Sep-04 | I'd be nice if Chad would post specs on the Avalanche 12. Do you even know what you bought Vincent? -Fishy |
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Bronze Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Usa Post Number: 82 Registered: Jan-05 | yes two 15 inch atlas's are coming my way  |
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Bronze Member Username: Algirard1OH United States Post Number: 92 Registered: Dec-04 | The specs for the Avlanche 12" are: Fs 23 Hz Vas 80 Liters Qms 4.36 Qes .39 Qts .358 Znom 4 ohms Re 2.8 ohms Mms 197 g Sd 480 cm^2 Pnom 800 watts Chad posted them on this website http://forum.soundillusions.net/showthread.php?t=50318 |
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Silver Member Username: TpizzlePost Number: 244 Registered: Apr-05 | how do you guys think the new technology will be? |
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Silver Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 722 Registered: Mar-04 | No clue on the new design...the only thing that comes to mind is LMT, but I highly doubt that is what it will be. ...Is it just me or do any of yall think that AA took Dan Wiggin's quote the wrong way? I mean...all he could have ment was that the soft parts of other woofers (ex: Ava and X.X.X.) dont create a woofer that is identical to a brahma or tumult. I mean, X.X.X.'s and brahma's dont sound exactly the same anyways. Just because a woofer says XBL^2 inabled doesnt mean its gonna sound exactly like other XBL^2 woofers. Just like all underhung woofers dont sound the same. |
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Silver Member Username: TpizzlePost Number: 249 Registered: Apr-05 | i thought the site said the new technology was mbII. does that sound famiiar. personally i like XBL2^TM , it has a better ring to it. |
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Bronze Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Usa Post Number: 83 Registered: Jan-05 | any1 know what the specs are for the atlas 15 i can't find them anywhere on the website |
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Bronze Member Username: Algirard1OH United States Post Number: 93 Registered: Dec-04 | they are here http://www.ascendantaudio.com/archive/Atlas%2015%20high%20Qts%20T-S%20specs.htm |
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Silver Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 723 Registered: Mar-04 | http://www.ascendantaudio.com/archive/Atlas%2015.htm click the links on the side that say "high Qts", "mid Qts", and "low Qts" |
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Bronze Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Usa Post Number: 85 Registered: Jan-05 | cool thanx |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 3853 Registered: May-04 | Marshall, you hit the nail on the head. Just because all subs use XBL^2 doesn't mean they are equal, and that's the point Dan was trying to get across. Ascendant's parts aren't custom made like those from Adire, many are imported to save cost. The suspensions on all the other XBL^2 subs (such as the X.X.X., Atlas, Avalanche, etc.) differ by a lot, plus the different voice coil materials and configurations, and of course other alterations. Dan was right, all are not created equal. He probably had a lot of questions regarding why they should pay more for a Brahma when the Avalanche is cheaper. |
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Silver Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 724 Registered: Mar-04 | Yea Jonathan...I think AA and Chad are blowing this way out of proportion. But still, you wouldnt wanna loan me some $$$ so i can grab an Ava 18" or 2...would ya |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 3856 Registered: May-04 | I think AA and Chad are just trying to find a way to stop paying royalties. Notice how he emphasized how the new motor design is free. I'm curious what he's planning to take XBL^2's spot, though. I'd be lucky if I could afford an Avalanche myself. I'd probably have to scrape to buy a Sony right now. |
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Silver Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 727 Registered: Mar-04 | yea...i hear ya. I'm scraping rite now tryin to buy an amp for my SX15. I'd already have an amp rite now if it wasnt for 2 tickets i got...one for speedin (67 in a 45) and one for runnin a stop sign  I'm really wonderin about that motor design too. But if they can use it for free, then the cost of their new subs should be lower than the XBL^2 subs they were sellin....hummm... |
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Bronze Member Username: Basketballinu05Post Number: 48 Registered: Dec-04 | it still says the price is 160 for the atlas 15 where r u guys seeing these cheap prices? |
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Silver Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 728 Registered: Mar-04 | http://www.ascendantaudio.com scroll down about half-way of that page. |
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Bronze Member Username: Basketballinu05Post Number: 49 Registered: Dec-04 | yeah i click that and click pricing in the middle and i get this Atlas 12" now $145 Atlas 15" now $160 Avalanche 15" now $299 Avalanche 18" remains at $399 |
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Bronze Member Username: Sx3Post Number: 50 Registered: Mar-05 | Does anybody know how many Atlas 15"s are left? |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 2747 Registered: Dec-04 | I bought an Atlas 12 and an avalanche 15 & 18 today how could you pass up those prices, I dont care if you have to sell yourself to a man wh0re like hunter does those prices are incredible! |
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Silver Member Username: RhasslerGilford, NH Post Number: 152 Registered: Dec-04 | Zach click the link, once the web page opens dont click anything, scroll down to half-way down the page. it says "Pricing" in bold then look under that. i just checked they're still the onsale price!! the old price has a line through it! |
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Silver Member Username: RhasslerGilford, NH Post Number: 153 Registered: Dec-04 | hey i was just curious, does anyone know how the 15" avalanche competes with the 15" x.x.x.? say they were both in a ported box. |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 2750 Registered: Dec-04 | The Avalanche works very well in a sealed enclosure, it will work well in forted but because of its low FS the box would have to be tuned to about 20htz and be rather on the large side like 5-7 cu/ft. I have never run a X X X but I have run a Brahma, and I currently am running a Avalanche and they sound very similar. |
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Silver Member Username: RhasslerGilford, NH Post Number: 154 Registered: Dec-04 | what would the difference be in sq and spl? cuz i mean for that price i could buy the 15" ava, sell my X.X.X. and make some mula lol |
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Silver Member Username: RhasslerGilford, NH Post Number: 155 Registered: Dec-04 | ok thanks James, if 2 of those 15" avalanches were put in a sealed box how big would the box be... just an ish number |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 2751 Registered: Dec-04 | SQ you would not be able to tell the two apart IMO and SPL I would have to say its subjective to the amount of power you are running to it. The Avalanche is 800RMS and the X X X is 1600 RMS so that makes a huge difference as to what amp you are going to run. In perfect conditions I would have to say the X X X would get louder but not by much prob harly noticable if at all. Why dont you get one and test it out and let us know, no one on here has done that test yet |
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Gold Member Username: InvainMichigan United States Post Number: 2180 Registered: Aug-04 | You know James, I would junt you down and murder you if you happened to buy the last Avalanche 15. Would be pretty funny though, lol. I almost sh.it myself when I read the price changes today. I'ma offer the guy that wants my guitar 50 bucks less if he'll buy it this week so I can order an Avy. |
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Silver Member Username: RhasslerGilford, NH Post Number: 156 Registered: Dec-04 | hmmm ill think about it lol. the amp i currently have is a orion 1200d, it had some issues so i sent it back to be repaired/replaced. maybe if i call them at onlinecarstereo.com, they would give me a credit towards a new amp. any suggestions? |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 2753 Registered: Dec-04 | Hey Nick I got the G4 installed today and all I have to say is |
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JAKE REED Unregistered guest | whats the deal on warranty's going to be??? need to know asap |
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Silver Member Username: Sancho886El Cajon, CA US Post Number: 131 Registered: Jun-04 | is the 18" worth the 50 bucks over the 15"? |
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Gold Member Username: InvainMichigan United States Post Number: 2181 Registered: Aug-04 | James, can you tell a difference from the PPI? |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 2763 Registered: Dec-04 | yeah! I havnt really messed with the intel Q on the amp yet but so far the SQ is noticably better with the Orion which I was really really surprised, The PPI got a tad louder but Isaac says I need to adjust the intel Q it is at 0 now so I am gonna go up with it Isaac has his on 6db's so I will check that out and seee what it does. Dude I talked to chad and he said you have about 1 week to order that avalanche before they are gone so I would start selling yourself now I ordered the ava 12 to check it out, Chad told me in a 1.5cu/ft enclosure tuned to 27 htz it is a absolute monster |
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Gold Member Username: InvainMichigan United States Post Number: 2185 Registered: Aug-04 | James, I thought you said you were gonna buy all the Avalanche sizes and a couple Atlas's. What did you actually order? I was thinking of getting an Avalanche 18" for the price, but I wouldn't be able to fit a big enough box in my trunk. I hate all the fu.ckheads in our area right now. I've had a bunch of fa.ggots look at my guitar and old sub + box, but nobody even has the fricken money to start with... I'll go on a killing spree if I end up not being able to buy an Avalanche. |
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Silver Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 304 Registered: Sep-04 | my brother wont believe me that a 12 ava will destroy his L7 overall.... and its cheaper too! i want to buy them for ppl because of the price lol... id buy myself one but i dont have enough money and i need an amp for my 15ava.... but they are making me mad because i wanted to get anohter one in like 6-8 months but now i;lll have to get 2 of the new ones! grrr |
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Bronze Member Username: RedrangeMo Hill, California Post Number: 30 Registered: Apr-05 | Wut wouold be louder in a ported box 2 12 atlas or 1 15 ava??? |
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Silver Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 305 Registered: Sep-04 | i think ive heard 2 12 atlas' are 1 db less than a 15 ava on average... so just get one 15 ava if i were you |
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