Hey everyone I just wanted to tell you all i got my orion hcca 225g4 today.It will be powering my perfect 6.1s but for now it is hooked up to a 12" alpine type r and let me tell you it puts my old 500 watt mtx amp to shame!! And its rated at 25w at 4ohmsx2ch the ppl at orion are big fat liers!!! It is in even better condition than I thought it was too,it is in pretty much perfect condtion.Thanks to ebay i got it for $230 shipped.And isaac if your readin this i guess you can say "I told ya so"!