Re-Aiming your dish antenna to another provider

 

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Username: Justforhahas

Post Number: 1077
Registered: Jul-08
Re-Aiming your dish antenna to another provider: by - Grandpooba - 2008-02-08

Your receiver has the ablities to receive B3v but you are currently aimed at DN, or you are aimed at B3v and want DN.
The first thing that you do is goto a satellite aiming site, this is the one I like to use http://satcalculator.freehostia.com/

For this excerise we will be re-aiming the dish from 91W nimiq 1 to 110W Echostar 8/10, However the procedure will work for DN to B3v.

You get the Elevation readings for your current satellite that your dish is aimed at (91W), and the readings for the desired new satellite (110W).

Example from San Francisco California USA: Changing from 91W Nimiq 1 to 110W Echostar 8/10;

Using the satellite aiming site, we have found the following;
Elevation for 91W Nimiq 1 is 35.3 degrees
Elevation for 110W Echostar 8/10 is 44.3 degrees
NOTE: these readings will vary as to location, you MUST get the readings for YOUR location.

You would subtract the larger elevation from the smaller elevation, 44.3 deg. minus 35.3 Deg. = 9 Degrees DIFFERANCE.

Now goto your dish antenna and MARK IT, Dish collar to the pole, and elevation dish to the elevation scale with a sharp pen or fine point "Magic marker', so you can return to the original settings. You should have your receiver or satellite finder setup to read Strenght indication for the new satellite 110W.

Assuming you are currently aimed at 91W Nimiq 1, read the Elevation scale on the dish and write it down,it ideally would be at 35 Deg. however these scales can be incorrect. To re-aim at 110W, you would add the 9 Degrees difference to the reading you have taken from the dish. If you read 37 degrees and add 9 Deg. you would have 46 degrees on the scale. So set the dish elevation for 46 Degrees.

To aim the azmuth, we are aimed at 91W, we know that from the northern hemisphere facing South the lower orbital numbers are to your left and higher to your right. To re-aim the dish we want to move the dish 19 degrees to the right. The elevation is set at 46 Deg. the collar and elevation setting has been marked so we can return to the original settings. We now loosen the dish collar and turn the dish to the right
I have found that 10 degrees is about 1/8 inch of distance on a standard 1 5/8 inch dish pole, so for 19 degrees it would be about 1/4 of a inch from the original pole markings, turning the dish to your right w/pole in your belly. S-l-o-w-l-y move the dish left and right ontil you peak the reading, verify that you are receiving 110W on the satellite dish setup screen, lock the dish collar with the collar locking bolts. Repeat the peaking process for the elevation, and lock it.

You can go from 110W to 91W using the same procedure, but turning the dish to the left and re-aiming the elevation.


---------------------------------------------------------

Next... just input the new antenna LNB and sat settings into the receiver, do new scans, let EPG populate and wait for keys to AR... and watch V
 

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Username: Krunch

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Post Number: 17
Registered: Dec-07
Thanks for the great info Just, this is exactly what I was looking for (from bev to dn). Have been thinking about trying this, and had no idea.
However, this part... "Next... just input the new antenna LNB and sat settings into the receiver" is what throws me off. Right now when I go into satllites on my fortec LU I do not see "echostar" listed anywhere. Should it be in the list? Do I have to creat it? And what settings do I need for 110 (or whatever DN is on)??

Any help would be appreciated, or pointed to the right place if its been posted before.

Thanks!
 

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Username: Justforhahas

Post Number: 1103
Registered: Jul-08
bump...

scan the new sats...and make sure ya have the dish aligned correctly and recheck the new antenna settings..
 

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 12944
Registered: Jun-06
If you are using the latest cnversion BIN 295, you should have ECHO 7KU for 119W and ECHO 8,10KU or ECHO 10,11KU or ECHO 8KU for 110W in your Antenna setup.
 

Gold Member
Username: Justforhahas

Post Number: 1122
Registered: Jul-08
Re-Aiming your dish antenna to another provider: by - Grandpooba - 2008-02-08

Your receiver has the ablities to receive B3v but you are currently aimed at DN, or you are aimed at B3v and want DN.
The first thing that you do is goto a satellite aiming site, this is the one I like to use http://satcalculator.freehostia.com/

For this excerise we will be re-aiming the dish from 91W nimiq 1 to 110W Echostar 8/10, However the procedure will work for DN to B3v.

You get the Elevation readings for your current satellite that your dish is aimed at (91W), and the readings for the desired new satellite (110W).

Example from San Francisco California USA: Changing from 91W Nimiq 1 to 110W Echostar 8/10;

Using the satellite aiming site, we have found the following;
Elevation for 91W Nimiq 1 is 35.3 degrees
Elevation for 110W Echostar 8/10 is 44.3 degrees
NOTE: these readings will vary as to location, you MUST get the readings for YOUR location.

You would subtract the larger elevation from the smaller elevation, 44.3 deg. minus 35.3 Deg. = 9 Degrees DIFFERANCE.

Now goto your dish antenna and MARK IT, Dish collar to the pole, and elevation dish to the elevation scale with a sharp pen or fine point "Magic marker', so you can return to the original settings. You should have your receiver or satellite finder setup to read Strenght indication for the new satellite 110W.

Assuming you are currently aimed at 91W Nimiq 1, read the Elevation scale on the dish and write it down,it ideally would be at 35 Deg. however these scales can be incorrect. To re-aim at 110W, you would add the 9 Degrees difference to the reading you have taken from the dish. If you read 37 degrees and add 9 Deg. you would have 46 degrees on the scale. So set the dish elevation for 46 Degrees.

To aim the azmuth, we are aimed at 91W, we know that from the northern hemisphere facing South the lower orbital numbers are to your left and higher to your right. To re-aim the dish we want to move the dish 19 degrees to the right. The elevation is set at 46 Deg. the collar and elevation setting has been marked so we can return to the original settings. We now loosen the dish collar and turn the dish to the right
I have found that 10 degrees is about 1/8 inch of distance on a standard 1 5/8 inch dish pole, so for 19 degrees it would be about 1/4 of a inch from the original pole markings, turning the dish to your right w/pole in your belly. S-l-o-w-l-y move the dish left and right ontil you peak the reading, verify that you are receiving 110W on the satellite dish setup screen, lock the dish collar with the collar locking bolts. Repeat the peaking process for the elevation, and lock it.

You can go from 110W to 91W using the same procedure, but turning the dish to the left and re-aiming the elevation.


---------------------------------------------------------

Next... just input the new antenna LNB and sat settings into the receiver, do new scans, let EPG populate and wait for keys to AR... and watch V
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 12974
Registered: Jun-06
When you want to look up the correct angle
[link removed]
http://www.hollsco.com/Products/SatCalc/

http://www.sadoun.com/
This site has all the gadgets necessary for aiming your dish - from a simple compass to a sophisticated electronic device used by professionals, with instructions for eah.
 

Gold Member
Username: Justforhahas

Post Number: 1127
Registered: Jul-08
U R a child...
 

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Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 5479
Registered: Jan-08
Good info Nalin
Thanks
 

Gold Member
Username: Justforhahas

Post Number: 1168
Registered: Jul-08
Re-Aiming your dish antenna to another provider: by - Grandpooba - 2008-02-08

Your receiver has the ablities to receive B3v but you are currently aimed at DN, or you are aimed at B3v and want DN.
The first thing that you do is goto a satellite aiming site, this is the one I like to use http://satcalculator.freehostia.com/

For this excerise we will be re-aiming the dish from 91W nimiq 1 to 110W Echostar 8/10, However the procedure will work for DN to B3v.

You get the Elevation readings for your current satellite that your dish is aimed at (91W), and the readings for the desired new satellite (110W).

Example from San Francisco California USA: Changing from 91W Nimiq 1 to 110W Echostar 8/10;

Using the satellite aiming site, we have found the following;
Elevation for 91W Nimiq 1 is 35.3 degrees
Elevation for 110W Echostar 8/10 is 44.3 degrees
NOTE: these readings will vary as to location, you MUST get the readings for YOUR location.

You would subtract the larger elevation from the smaller elevation, 44.3 deg. minus 35.3 Deg. = 9 Degrees DIFFERANCE.

Now goto your dish antenna and MARK IT, Dish collar to the pole, and elevation dish to the elevation scale with a sharp pen or fine point "Magic marker', so you can return to the original settings. You should have your receiver or satellite finder setup to read Strenght indication for the new satellite 110W.

Assuming you are currently aimed at 91W Nimiq 1, read the Elevation scale on the dish and write it down,it ideally would be at 35 Deg. however these scales can be incorrect. To re-aim at 110W, you would add the 9 Degrees difference to the reading you have taken from the dish. If you read 37 degrees and add 9 Deg. you would have 46 degrees on the scale. So set the dish elevation for 46 Degrees.

To aim the azmuth, we are aimed at 91W, we know that from the northern hemisphere facing South the lower orbital numbers are to your left and higher to your right. To re-aim the dish we want to move the dish 19 degrees to the right. The elevation is set at 46 Deg. the collar and elevation setting has been marked so we can return to the original settings. We now loosen the dish collar and turn the dish to the right
I have found that 10 degrees is about 1/8 inch of distance on a standard 1 5/8 inch dish pole, so for 19 degrees it would be about 1/4 of a inch from the original pole markings, turning the dish to your right w/pole in your belly. S-l-o-w-l-y move the dish left and right ontil you peak the reading, verify that you are receiving 110W on the satellite dish setup screen, lock the dish collar with the collar locking bolts. Repeat the peaking process for the elevation, and lock it.

You can go from 110W to 91W using the same procedure, but turning the dish to the left and re-aiming the elevation.


---------------------------------------------------------

Next... just input the new antenna LNB and sat settings into the receiver, do new scans, let EPG populate and wait for keys to AR... and watch V
 

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Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 5588
Registered: Jan-08
Nalin Nyda
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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 12974
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 11:14 am: Edit Post
When you want to look up the correct angle
[link removed]
http://www.hollsco.com/Products/SatCalc/

http://www.sadoun.com/
This site has all the gadgets necessary for aiming your dish - from a simple compass to a sophisticated electronic device used by professionals, with instructions for eah.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Directmc

Post Number: 14
Registered: Dec-07
A great utility can be found here.

https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/528476.html
 

Bronze Member
Username: Princealbert

Post Number: 46
Registered: Dec-07
I am having trouble getting a signal on my new dish500. Testing a sv1000 that was previously set to receive b3v. Am now trying to get 110.0w I am pretty sure that all of my elevation, skew and azimuth are correct. My dish settings are as follows.
sat echostar 6,8
lnb power on
lnb type single
lnb freq 10600
transponder 12224
22KHz off
search option all
network search on
Diseqc Port 3( I am using the swithch that origanally came with the unit and have the lnb's going into port 3 and 4)
motor disable
legacy sw off
any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Username: Sam_patel

Post Number: 97
Registered: Jun-06
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Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 5607
Registered: Jan-08
Fred
110w
LNB Freq: 11250
Tp Freq: 12224
 

Bronze Member
Username: Princealbert

Post Number: 47
Registered: Dec-07
Thanks for the information Plymouth, but I still can't get a signal, will keep on working at it.
 

Silver Member
Username: Albino_midget

Post Number: 700
Registered: Jul-06
The settings for dn and bv are the same

Enter settings from 82w to 110w -lnb type and diseqc port and do the same for 91w for 119w

When trying to get signal on 119w use TP 12239 -- The first TP 12224 is not conus beam and you may not get quality.
 

Gold Member
Username: Justforhahas

Post Number: 1199
Registered: Jul-08
Again plymouth posts wrong bogus info...LMAO
 

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Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 5644
Registered: Jan-08
Albino
I get strong signal from 12224 and many channels from my location

Anyway the tp freq is only for see if you get the good satellite and have nothing to do with the scanning.

Try it, use a tp freq with no signal and do a autoscan and you will see that you get all channels.
 

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Username: Justforhahas

Post Number: 1204
Registered: Jul-08
"use a tp freq with no signal and do a autoscan and you will see that you get all channels"

LMAO @ plymouth...
 

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Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 5645
Registered: Jan-08
Only the LNB Freq is very important for scanning

Haha you are a idiot who no nothing
So close your big mouth.

You only know wath you read and not test nothing at all.

Take your pills
 

Gold Member
Username: Justforhahas

Post Number: 1255
Registered: Jul-08
Re-Aiming your dish antenna to another provider: by - Grandpooba - 2008-02-08

Your receiver has the ablities to receive B3v but you are currently aimed at DN, or you are aimed at B3v and want DN.
The first thing that you do is goto a satellite aiming site, this is the one I like to use http://satcalculator.freehostia.com/

For this excerise we will be re-aiming the dish from 91W nimiq 1 to 110W Echostar 8/10, However the procedure will work for DN to B3v.

You get the Elevation readings for your current satellite that your dish is aimed at (91W), and the readings for the desired new satellite (110W).

Example from San Francisco California USA: Changing from 91W Nimiq 1 to 110W Echostar 8/10;

Using the satellite aiming site, we have found the following;
Elevation for 91W Nimiq 1 is 35.3 degrees
Elevation for 110W Echostar 8/10 is 44.3 degrees
NOTE: these readings will vary as to location, you MUST get the readings for YOUR location.

You would subtract the larger elevation from the smaller elevation, 44.3 deg. minus 35.3 Deg. = 9 Degrees DIFFERANCE.

Now goto your dish antenna and MARK IT, Dish collar to the pole, and elevation dish to the elevation scale with a sharp pen or fine point "Magic marker', so you can return to the original settings. You should have your receiver or satellite finder setup to read Strenght indication for the new satellite 110W.

Assuming you are currently aimed at 91W Nimiq 1, read the Elevation scale on the dish and write it down,it ideally would be at 35 Deg. however these scales can be incorrect. To re-aim at 110W, you would add the 9 Degrees difference to the reading you have taken from the dish. If you read 37 degrees and add 9 Deg. you would have 46 degrees on the scale. So set the dish elevation for 46 Degrees.

To aim the azmuth, we are aimed at 91W, we know that from the northern hemisphere facing South the lower orbital numbers are to your left and higher to your right. To re-aim the dish we want to move the dish 19 degrees to the right. The elevation is set at 46 Deg. the collar and elevation setting has been marked so we can return to the original settings. We now loosen the dish collar and turn the dish to the right
I have found that 10 degrees is about 1/8 inch of distance on a standard 1 5/8 inch dish pole, so for 19 degrees it would be about 1/4 of a inch from the original pole markings, turning the dish to your right w/pole in your belly. S-l-o-w-l-y move the dish left and right ontil you peak the reading, verify that you are receiving 110W on the satellite dish setup screen, lock the dish collar with the collar locking bolts. Repeat the peaking process for the elevation, and lock it.

You can go from 110W to 91W using the same procedure, but turning the dish to the left and re-aiming the elevation.


---------------------------------------------------------

Next... just input the new antenna LNB and sat settings into the receiver, do new scans, let EPG populate and wait for keys to AR... and watch TV
 

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 13152
Registered: Jun-06
When you want to look up the correct angle
[link removed]
http://www.hollsco.com/Products/SatCalc/

http://www.sadoun.com/
This site has all the gadgets necessary for aiming your dish - from a simple compass to a sophisticated electronic device used by professionals, with instructions for eah.
 

Gold Member
Username: Justforhahas

Post Number: 1256
Registered: Jul-08
Re-Aiming your dish antenna to another provider: by - Grandpooba - 2008-02-08

Your receiver has the ablities to receive B3v but you are currently aimed at DN, or you are aimed at B3v and want DN.
The first thing that you do is goto a satellite aiming site, this is the one I like to use http://satcalculator.freehostia.com/

For this excerise we will be re-aiming the dish from 91W nimiq 1 to 110W Echostar 8/10, However the procedure will work for DN to B3v.

You get the Elevation readings for your current satellite that your dish is aimed at (91W), and the readings for the desired new satellite (110W).

Example from San Francisco California USA: Changing from 91W Nimiq 1 to 110W Echostar 8/10;

Using the satellite aiming site, we have found the following;
Elevation for 91W Nimiq 1 is 35.3 degrees
Elevation for 110W Echostar 8/10 is 44.3 degrees
NOTE: these readings will vary as to location, you MUST get the readings for YOUR location.

You would subtract the larger elevation from the smaller elevation, 44.3 deg. minus 35.3 Deg. = 9 Degrees DIFFERANCE.

Now goto your dish antenna and MARK IT, Dish collar to the pole, and elevation dish to the elevation scale with a sharp pen or fine point "Magic marker', so you can return to the original settings. You should have your receiver or satellite finder setup to read Strenght indication for the new satellite 110W.

Assuming you are currently aimed at 91W Nimiq 1, read the Elevation scale on the dish and write it down,it ideally would be at 35 Deg. however these scales can be incorrect. To re-aim at 110W, you would add the 9 Degrees difference to the reading you have taken from the dish. If you read 37 degrees and add 9 Deg. you would have 46 degrees on the scale. So set the dish elevation for 46 Degrees.

To aim the azmuth, we are aimed at 91W, we know that from the northern hemisphere facing South the lower orbital numbers are to your left and higher to your right. To re-aim the dish we want to move the dish 19 degrees to the right. The elevation is set at 46 Deg. the collar and elevation setting has been marked so we can return to the original settings. We now loosen the dish collar and turn the dish to the right
I have found that 10 degrees is about 1/8 inch of distance on a standard 1 5/8 inch dish pole, so for 19 degrees it would be about 1/4 of a inch from the original pole markings, turning the dish to your right w/pole in your belly. S-l-o-w-l-y move the dish left and right ontil you peak the reading, verify that you are receiving 110W on the satellite dish setup screen, lock the dish collar with the collar locking bolts. Repeat the peaking process for the elevation, and lock it.

You can go from 110W to 91W using the same procedure, but turning the dish to the left and re-aiming the elevation.


---------------------------------------------------------

Next... just input the new antenna LNB and sat settings into the receiver, do new scans, let EPG populate and wait for keys to AR... and watch TV
 

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Username: Rockman169

Canada

Post Number: 48
Registered: Nov-06
so am they any where you can aim you dish to get some english channels other than bev and charlie . and how many can you get .i know you talk about ccg on here what that like
 

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Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 5755
Registered: Jan-08
Rockman169
Read this thread:

https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/528790.html
 

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Username: Rockman169

Canada

Post Number: 50
Registered: Nov-06
thanks plymouth
 

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Username: Plymouth

Canada

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Registered: Jan-08
You are Welcome
 

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Username: Upinkumin

Post Number: 26
Registered: Feb-08
This might come across as uneducated...

assuming you had the receiver and the correct bin file hooked up to dn. then you move, and there is already a dish set up there for bev. could you simply install your receiver and scan?

if so, how would one know what settings to put in?
 

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Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 5792
Registered: Jan-08
Upin_Kumin
Both use same Bin files but you must reaimed the dish and do settings and scan the new satellite.

 

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 13168
Registered: Jun-06
You either scan for BEV (BEV is not available now because of Nagra 3) or you reaim as Plymouth said and scan for DN
 

Gold Member
Username: Justforhahas

Post Number: 1269
Registered: Jul-08
aaah...thats what the FIRST post in my thread here is all about...re-aiming the dish to another provider...fricking genuises!...pathetic posts and replies to an already first post in this thread!
 

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Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 5802
Registered: Jan-08
 

Gold Member
Username: Justforhahas

Post Number: 1276
Registered: Jul-08
plymouth and nalin = Ooooh, got caught again repeating haha's..
 

Gold Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 5805
Registered: Jan-08
haha you search trouble tonight
 

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 13173
Registered: Jun-06
justforhaha's: It is time for your meds.
And no drinking ---- OK?
 

Gold Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 5808
Registered: Jan-08
Prozac time

Haha aka Lk is a little bit agitated tonight
 

Gold Member
Username: Justforhahas

Post Number: 1278
Registered: Jul-08
naw...your redundancy is pathetic, like you...but you're so stupid that it makes me chuckle....LMAO
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 13175
Registered: Jun-06
justforhaha's: Chuckle as much as you want. Many psychos do that because of thoughts roaming about in their mind. Make sure people see you do that, so somebody can call an ambulance and send you off to......
 

Bronze Member
Username: Upinkumin

Post Number: 27
Registered: Feb-08
thank you for your response.

am i to understand that BEV will not function until nag3 is cracked?
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 13179
Registered: Jun-06
Upin_Kumin:
"am i to understand that BEV will not function until nag3 is cracked?"

You are absolutely right
 

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Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 5832
Registered: Jan-08
Upin_Kumin

You are right
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