First I would like to apologize to the people that hang on every word I say, and to this site for the speculatiion on a fix. The timelines provided were given to me by people I trust. This has not been an easy one for anybody. The providers have gotten serious about their signal integrity and dealt their best shot to date at FTA. Nobody had a clue how serious this new ECM was. Viewsat even underestimated the complexity of it all. There's been no TRUE cardless fix offered yet by anyone. That alone should give you all a hint as to the difficulty involved here. Blacklist has worked tirelessly on the problem. Viewsat engineers have never stopped their quest for a solution. Cool*sat caved in and used a Rom 102 to get some TV going for their customers, and Captive works, Triple Dragon & Dreambox have card sharing working. None of these are the "fix" we've all been looking for. Do I still believe it will come? YES, I DO! The predictions of when the fix will come have been wrong since the channels started dropping. It has been 1 mo. since the premium channels started dropping off. Still we have no fix. This is the longest FTA has been down (tho not totally down). Some of the players bought info & help to try & get their units back up. None have accomplished the prize they were seeking. Viewsat hasn't bought anything, cept a scope rental to get a read of the Rom 102. This WAS accomplished and they have the FULL read of the Rom 102 to prove it. Does this guarantee them a solution? Only If the engineers can decode it all and reverse it and write the routines. Nobody else has even attempted going this route, so it would appear the whole industry is content to let VS carry the ball on this one. It's a damn shame that when the solution is released, none of them will be standing in line w/cash in hand to help offset the cost of all the work done to get the solution. 1 last routine is all that stops us from having tv.. The read done on the 102 does not contain the info necessary to complete the solution. VS engineers have to find the last routine on their own. The entire industry depends on them finding it, & WE must all wait for them to find it. Blame me if you must for this wait. Mr. V asked me if they should just follow Cool*sat's lead and make a carded solution. I said "NO, we have promised this industry a cardless solution, Let's stay the course till we get it done" his responce to me was " That's what I like about you, you see the real picture of what is needed" I still feel in my heart they will get this without any help, and they will do it this week. That is my opinion and an opinion only. If they don't accomplish this soon, I will relent and ask for a similar solution as Cool*sat. That will be a major defeat for me as well as VS, but I just don't see that happening. Business 101 dictates that if they want to dominate the market, they must flex their engineering muscles for all to see to prove they are worthy of being #1. Anything less is NOT satisfactory. Lets all hope this comes to be very soon for all of FTA's sake.. If you want to blame someone for your lack of TV, Blame me, I won't let them quit.. It is down to 1 lousy hardware routine. The combinations are limited, not billions like people think. They will get this.. Just be patient, and be kind to each other. It's only TV. A good tester always has a backup. Either sub, or switch to plastic if you can't wait.