Im sure this topic has been talked about before but i am lost here. In the front i have 6.5 spots and in the rear i have 6x9 spots. i plan on putting a 6.5 comp set in the front(amped). should i do the same for the rear or should i put a 6x9 coaxial in the rear? if so should i amp the 6x9? or what some1 help me out here
There is no need to put anything in the rear ports unless you have passengers back there often.
Definitely put in some good quality comps in the front. In the rear it might be a good idea to keep the 6x9 for decent bass, unless you have a subwoofer. 6x9 speakers do not have good sound quality. Use your HU to filter the high frequency signals to the rear speakers (send them only to the comps in front) and use them for bass only. Don't spend money on the rears...spend everything you have on the front comps and spend no more than 50 bucks on the rear speakers.
You will need to amp the comps to get the best out of them. Amping the 6x9 speakers will be good, too, so that you get some bass.
If sound in the rear is important to you, then get 4 channel amp. If SQ is more important, then get high quality 2 channel amp, remove 6x9" in the rears and use the holes as "bass ports." You'll get more bass into the cabin that way. If money is no object, then look at JL W7 in a HO box. It'll sound louder than couple of 12" subs.
I would get a good 2 or if possible a 3way setup up front, nothing in the rear and a good sub setup in the rear. IMO I would actually spend a little more on a HU and get something good like an Eclipse 5000 that will give you time alignment, crossover and a good PEQ to use. This will help tune your system and really make it shine. And yes no rears unless you are the taxi for your friends.
ES-630 and drt-26 tweeter-6.5 woofer with braxial mounted tweets in doors HD-5-5.25 woofer in custom kick panel
Gives a good midbass and blends so well with the sub. With the proper time alignment done you can hardly tell where the bass is coming from it all sounds like its up front.
A 2ay is easier to do though and to setup so I guess it depends on how much you know and want to do. If you want a good 2way setup I can sell you some CDT ES series for a crazy price is you post more pics!!! LOL... just messing, but if you need components i can set you up with some since i'm a dealer for CDT.
alter i have a ?.......when a component set of speakers says it can handle 100watts rms does that mean both the left and thr right, or does it mean 100rms each..meaning u would need 200watts for a component set that is 100 watts rms?
if it says 100rms thats per side so 200rms total. Most components especially CDTs are underrated. Like the EF-61 say like 120rms but will really shine at 150rms. If you like take a look at my site and look at the different components. www.alteraudiousa.com
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yeah definitely, i wouldn't use the Q logic for the 6.5 but for the four it should work, you may want to get someone to build a baffle for the underside of the kickpanel just so the 4in has something nice to screw into. But that would work quite well, its kinda what I did but I went with a larger 5.25 in the kick and mod'd it up pretty well. Which set are you looking at getting? Email me at email@example.com and i'll get you a quote on it.
the Q logic will be fine if you have a baffle behind it. You're only sticking a 4in in it so it should be enough for it. I would not use it for a 5.25 or a 6.5 at all but for a 4in you'll be good. If you email me Jo Beth i'll get you price on the HD-642 and the CL-641 and I can quote you on a mix and match of different drivers from CDT for a 3way setup. I
I didn't go on to finish reading everyone's post. I'm new to this whole forum thing and I hope nobody gets p-ed off at me but a... I completely disagree with this whole thing of comps in the front and nothing in the back but some bass or subs. I strive really hard for sound imaging and unless you have unbelievably amazing comps or whatnot in the front you will completely mess up the whole system. Right now I have coxials all around, and I've tuned it just right and my sound is BEAUTIFUL!!! not to brag of course. But yeah you can hear it all, the quality is amazing! If you really want something impressive you shouldn't take the advice of having comps in the front only. You need at least a pair of descent coxials in the rear, if you care about quality as much as I do. A friend of mine and myself own a recording studio and he's an engineer, so he knows audio and he is very impressed with my sound and I'mnot even close to my finished project. I'm looking to get compenants as well, because I imagine it'll be better for imaging, having the tweeter on the cone(coxial speakers) interfer with each other, its NOT bad! but its not as GOOD you know what I mean? So my suggest. is... definitely go for the comps in the front, thats great, but definitely get something! for the rear. Remember that the rear speakers aren't for the backseat drivers! they're for the overall quality and fullness of your system.
I was really into Pioneer Premier stuff when I just started doing the car audio thing. I had the DEH-P8MP(a $500 HU at the time) and I had bought an Alpine CDA-9847 and replaced my HU with it and the quality was noticably better, not a big diff but it was better and the Alpine was cheaper, since then I got into Alpine and I'm a big fan. The other day I went to Tweeters to check out a few speakers and compared them all and overall I liked the Alpine TypeR SPR-17LS above the rest around the same price range. If you don't mind buying from ebay you can get a pair of the component speakers for about $150 and that includes shipping. So two sets... $300 you would have a great sound!!! And I mean real good. Those are what I'm looking to get as soon as possible. They're a little deep though(the mounting depth) so I might have to get some kickpanels for my 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport. But from the reviews I read if you give em the right power, you wouldn't even need a sub. But as far as clarity and all that jazz, I think these speakers are great.
And uh Alter you said that the Q Logic Kick panel isn't good for 6.5. Do you know where I can get some different ones. I really don't wanna cut into my doors to make those speakers fit. Where can I find good kick panels for my Cherokee?
Tweet, for your Cherokee having rear speakers is good due to cabin size but for a sedan like Jo Beth's rears aren't a need if you get good enough fronts. I have a Galant and with just my 3way components up front I have better SQ than many shops customer installs. Fullness of music is really only in your head. Considering concert and symphonies are always frontstage and so are recording studio's "fullness" is how well you perceive left and right. Only a 5.1 setup needs to have rear speakers for fullness from front and rear, left and right. And you will always need a subwoofer for a complete system. There is alot of "music" you can miss without one.
As for the Q logic kick, if you get one you would need to mod it to have stiffer walls, mount a MDF baffle on the backside of the mounting plate to give the speaker a better mounting place, and try and seal up most of the back side of the panel with FG or dynamat. You really want to make sure the kick panel is as flush to the floor as you can get.