Subsonic filters....

 

Silver Member
Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky Usa

Post Number: 297
Registered: Dec-04
what is this lol...and how do i do it..i was ath the faq and it said this .....

Q: Do I need to use a Subsonic Filter with your enclosures? If so, what do I set it at?

A: Subsonic filters are recommended to help protect your equipment. I would put it at 25 Hz (blocking anything 25 Hz and below) if you can adjust it.....

how do i do this...what is it...do i have to buy somen...????
 

Silver Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 835
Registered: Aug-04
You use subsonic filters with ported enclosures. You can damage a subwoofer if you play it long enough and low enough below the box's tune frequency. Subsonic filters are the same thing as Highpass filters. Some amps have highpass filters on them that you can set to certain frequency's. You can also buy filters that plug in-line with your rca cables.
 

Silver Member
Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky Usa

Post Number: 298
Registered: Dec-04
well im going to have a ed nine.1 and a 15 inch ti you know alll about it all dont ya lol...and an SS box...so what shouild i do to that to make it so i cant hurt it...and how does it hurt it?
 

Silver Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 836
Registered: Aug-04
I think it has something to do with: since the sub isn't in a sealed box with stronger suspension, the lower it goes the more excursion it has, and the sealed box doesn't have enough suspension to hold the sub's movement properly, so it bottoms out. This is my basic understanding. Jonathan can probably shoot holes through it, but I know I'm on the right path.
 

Silver Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 837
Registered: Aug-04
Your gonna have to find out what the final tune of the ss box is, so you know what frequency highpass filters to purchase. My ported box is tuned to 35 hz, so I have highpass filters that start at 30 hz. You can get Harris-Labs inline rca filters for like 20 bucks off ebay. When you buy them just tell them whether you want high or lowpass, and what frequency.
 

Silver Member
Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky Usa

Post Number: 300
Registered: Dec-04
awesome...thanks sooo much for the help you can give me...hope to talk to jon soon then
 

Silver Member
Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky Usa

Post Number: 303
Registered: Dec-04
that looks simple...whats that do though...its soo simple
 

Silver Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 842
Registered: Aug-04
Correction, their called Harrison Labs, lol. Here's a pic of what they look like.

Upload
 

Silver Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 843
Registered: Aug-04
What the heck, my post moved, lol. Don't ask me how they work, but they do, I have a pair.
 

Silver Member
Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky Usa

Post Number: 304
Registered: Dec-04
yea how did they move...mine was poster after yours...WTF...but...like...is that all it takes to keep it under 25 hrz or whatnot
 

Silver Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 845
Registered: Aug-04
That's all you need. Don't forget about some kind of lowpass filter also. Most good amps have those built in, and if they don't your headunit should, so you shouldn't have to worry about that.
 

Silver Member
Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky Usa

Post Number: 306
Registered: Dec-04
wwhats a lowpass filter...one of those knobs on the side
 

Silver Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 846
Registered: Aug-04
Low pass filters block high frequency's. Your not gonna want to try and run frequency's above 100 hz throught your sub normally. I think my lowpass filter on my amp is set at 80 hz.
 

Gold Member
Username: Jonathan_f

GA USA

Post Number: 3342
Registered: May-04
SS boxes are variants of a transmission line enclosure, typically with 1/4 wave theory, so you'd set the subsonic filter 1/4 octave down from the resonant frequency (Fs) of the subwoofer. In the case of that Ti, around 20 hz would work fine. Harrison Labs F-Mods will work for that. About ported boxes and such, they don't instantly lose damping the second you go below the tuned frequency, they gradually lose damping, and eventually you'll get to a point in which the sub performs as if it were mounted infinite baffle.

"since the sub isn't in a sealed box with stronger suspension, the lower it goes the more excursion it has,"
Ported boxes have more mechanical control, a.k.a. a stronger suspension, than sealed boxes do. That's the reason group delay and transient response is higher with a ported box. Ported boxes lose damping because the control of the sub is dependant upon the port itself, in which below it's tuned frequency it has a sharp rolloff and the port itself loses it's damping ability. A sealed box retains it's control since the sub is dependant on the mass of air behind it.
 

Silver Member
Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky Usa

Post Number: 319
Registered: Dec-04
once again you lost me...but i actually understood more that time...so just a few questions....what exactly is frequency?...dampening?... and transient respong....and suspension??...

also when i get all my system together...what would be the best way to sound deaden my car...an extreme bulk kit of dynamat...or what would be the best and cheapest...thanks
 

Silver Member
Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky Usa

Post Number: 348
Registered: Dec-04
to the top
 

Silver Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 922
Registered: Aug-04
Gosh dang it. I always mess up the stuff to do with subs playing below the port tune frequency.
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