I don't know if anybody still uses this stuff, But in goin through a box lookin for parts I came accross 3 AVR boards, One is an AVR3 modded with the chip to autoroll, the other 2 are AVR6 autoroll boards. For sombody just startin out or if you have a locked ex-sub card and want TV, or for those still using, or starting emulation they would work fine. I also have 2 AVR Wafers and a programmer. They are the same thing but like the Magic Cards they are the same size as the smart card. Anybody wants it all they can have it for $35. Some places still sell the boards for $25 each. Email me.