WHY NEED TO REBOOT KBOX everytime?

 

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Username: Dwd75

Post Number: 1
Registered: Aug-09
WHY I NEED TO REBOOT KBOX Pro MOST OF THE TIMES? Every now and then if I want to see TV I need to turn power ON/OFF, goto 200 wait and go back to channel you want to see.
I mean everytime I have to play around in order to watch TV.

any IP issues? or something like that?
 

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Username: Jayson

Post Number: 373
Registered: Aug-06
it should be your internet connection....do you have it connected on slot #1 on your router???
 

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Username: Loverboyz

Post Number: 68
Registered: Aug-06
DWD75 is right... I have to reboot my kbox very often compare to my nova..Kbox does have lot more freezing problem than nova... No complains though... I m loving my kbox and my nova till they last. :-)
 

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Username: Abe125

Cali

Post Number: 27
Registered: Sep-06
just like the internet ... there always break in the connection.... .... until they come out with a n3 fix .. its a small issue to deal with...
 

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Username: Rescate

VENEZUELA, M...

Post Number: 404
Registered: Nov-07
yes, but not a big deal, my kbox is always unpluged unless somebody at home want to watch.

But once pluged runs flawlessly all 3 to 5 hours or until I unpluge it again.

Regards
 

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Username: Tapeman

New York Citay in-HD, NY

Post Number: 4373
Registered: Oct-06
Actually many servers are set to kick your IPA if yo don't touch receiver's remote control for 4 hours
It is set automatically by server's administrator 3 to 5 hours
Very common in IPTV and even Digital CableTV
It saves bandwidth by limiting traffic to main management server

Solution:
Just change the channel up/down and wait 30 to 60 seconds until it comes back
No need to turn off receiver
Sometimes it will take few longer minutes if there is a Key roll over in addition your IPA kicked off the server

Let me know how that works for yo
Remember many server admins set to as low as 3 hours if yo don't touch remote for that long
 

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Username: Dwd75

Post Number: 2
Registered: Aug-09
K.Tape Thanks for the input, now I am satisfied as I am not alone:-)
rescate is right, once I start watching then it works fine. problem only comes @ startup.
 

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 15960
Registered: Jun-06
King Tapeman: I have used atomic clock in the past to fool the ISP that I am active and they stopped kicking me out. I don't think atomic clock will work against the IKS servers but is there a similar technique available for IKS servers?
 

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Username: Tapeman

New York Citay in-HD, NY

Post Number: 4374
Registered: Oct-06
I don't think there is an easy way around it
If they don't set timeline on users hosting servers can crash all the time
There might be a way around it but that can cause hosting server to crash easier
I wouldn't doubt if D#N or B#V try to bring down traffic to cause the interruptions

This is how it works:
Let's say data exchange rate is 56kbps
Hosting Server pipe line is 50Mbps download
1000 users can easily crash for exceeding maximum capacity or you start bumping users
56k x 1000= 56Mega higher than 50M max capacity

Problem can be corrected by both adding more hosting servers and pay for more bandwidth
As yo can see it's all up to server provider and how much are they willing to spend
Providing constant data exchange from server to receiver consumes bandwidth and that means money
 

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 15967
Registered: Jun-06
"Problem can be corrected by both adding more hosting servers

I was under the impression that they use many servers with UDP protocol
 

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Username: Hardwarecrazy

Post Number: 88
Registered: Dec-07
I think there are too many ignorant posters in this forum and more than that, many 'smart Alecs' who think they know everything.

First of all, all Internet connections (IP) are called 'connection-less protocols'. In other words, once the data is fetched, the connection automatically terminates and waits for the next internet request. This is how internet works. So the server is never connected to any single fetching computer for ever. Just for a few Milli secs. That's it. This applies to KHUB, IHUB which use Internet Protocols.
 

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Username: Tapeman

New York Citay in-HD, NY

Post Number: 4375
Registered: Oct-06
Wow
So updating keys is a one time fetch? according to your ignorance
Internet Request? Wow wow
I never heard of that terminology before
Yo got a lot to learn PAL
Just keep on trying
 

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Username: Tapeman

New York Citay in-HD, NY

Post Number: 4376
Registered: Oct-06
Also there is a good way to test it
Disconnect the Internet connection
And see if it works Mr. Hardware
 

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Username: Sump

East coast USA

Post Number: 87
Registered: Aug-09
hardware is on the right track ..

it is TCP/IP
there is TCP traffic and IP traffic

also if you watch the little lites u can see how often packets requested and recieved.
for the more deserning user you may be able to look at you router and see the packets ..how big how often
also there are more programs that will break it down even futher, if i remember correctly in XP Pro you can set up your netcard to be permiquuios ( bad speller ) and see the actual traffic.
it is very low, see small amount
 

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Username: Hardwarecrazy

Post Number: 89
Registered: Dec-07
King Taperman, the more you write, the more you show your ignorance! So take the clue and write only about things you know. Obviously, TCP/IP, Internet etc are not your cup of tea, brother! So take the clue from Sump and melt away!
 

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Username: Tapeman

New York Citay in-HD, NY

Post Number: 4377
Registered: Oct-06
So disconnect the RJ45 and see if it's required or not?
It's so simple to try
FYI
Any protocol requires Address and Data
Therefore there is a rate of Kbps modulated as pulses
Even if it's 1-packet
Go ask a real hardware expert
But that will be me
Sukka
 

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Username: Tapeman

New York Citay in-HD, NY

Post Number: 4378
Registered: Oct-06
 

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Username: Dwd75

Post Number: 4
Registered: Aug-09
hardware accidentally jumped into FTA discussion without any knowledge of FTA.

I wouldnt blame him as it is not his fault:-)
 

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Username: King__of_sats

Post Number 998

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King your the Man these other two Idiots have no clue.
 

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Username: Tapeman

New York Citay in-HD, NY

Post Number: 4379
Registered: Oct-06
It's the same ignorant
His Englic easy to spot
I don't mind teaching retards
I love retards

The guy wouldn't answer a simple question
Is the internet cable required at all times or not?
If it's not required then it doesn't consume bandwidth
If it is required then now he learned how servers crash
Don't talk about Nimda
I still got a crush on Jimmy
 

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Username: Us_marshall

Post Number: 6
Registered: Nov-08
King Tapeman says, I still got a crush on Jimmy

They did say that you were G@y thats your business

Please keep it to yourself this forum is not a place to post this kind of stuff.
 

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Username: Sump

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the answer is yes ...
30 - 90 seconds appox ...
then connect for 1-2 seconds
i think that actually makes the opposing point ?

i believe the DOS has to do more with overloading the server processing/memory than bandwith

bandwidth throttles are before the server, set at routers @ the ISP's
 

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Username: Tapeman

New York Citay in-HD, NY

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"the answer is yes ...
30 - 90 seconds appox ...
then connect for 1-2 seconds
i think that actually makes the opposing point ?"


Now that yo at least agree that a constant connection from Khub to yor router must be ON at all times
That's progress
The next step is figure out what bit rate is required?
Usually is adjustable rate set by hosting server but has to be set to a specific fixed level
Another word adjustable but not variable

If I'm in NY and I call California for 1 hour
During this one hour I only spoke 4 words
If i'm billed 5 cents a minute
Can I call my long distance carrier and tell them I hardly spoke few words?
I need a break on the price
What do yo think the reply will be?
Do yo see my point now?

If there is an open communication between two terminals on a deticated line there must be a constant bit rate Mbps or Kbps
Multiply that by number of instant users yo'll get yor maximum capacity of bandwidth
That's basic stuff protocol 101

Look
Yo accept my answer or not
That's up to yo
I explained to DWD75 how he gets kicked out
Hardware has no clue what he's talking about
 

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Username: Sump

East coast USA

Post Number: 94
Registered: Aug-09
i had no problem with the all iks = internet connection ..

where my questioning is that there is a CONNECTION it is not dail up modem make connection untill you get kicked off or log off ...

So from what you said then ... when you type in a new website that you have not been to for awhile and you browser contacts the 3-9 DNS servers to find out the ip address of www.ggg.com then it stays connected for hours ??

NOT ..
it is just a simple transmission and answer VERY similar to dns ..

if i remeber correctly and could be wrong it is UDP for the IKS stuff .. " CONNECTIONLESS"
 

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Username: Sump

East coast USA

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Registered: Aug-09
ok can't resist ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Datagram_Protocol
 

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Username: Tapeman

New York Citay in-HD, NY

Post Number: 4381
Registered: Oct-06
I never said dial up
I said deticated line
And it;s on all the time
There is a constant refresh
Therefore there is a constan exchange on a constant bit rate per second

Deticated Line yo got unlimted usage
But Server owners pay per Mega Bit Per Second
THAT'S BASIC SH!T
 

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Username: Master_lee

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sump I wouldn't waste any more of your time
with that guy he is as nutty as a fruit cake.

Two years ago he was going to show everyone
here how to make free phone calls any where in the world by satellite.
 

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Username: Last_supper

Nazerith , Isreal

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sump....King has not got both paddles in the water and lives in a cardboard box in Brooklyn NY Citay Yo!
 

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ok thanks !!
 

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Username: Sump

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ok thanks !

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