PUFF V/S B75 ADVANTAGE ANSWER NALIN
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Bronze Member Username: SomokanoPost Number: 18 Registered: Nov-07 | HI I have converted FLU from 2500 to 2700 and I have 254 bin file loaded now I have seen PUFF stuff what is that and I have to convert to PUFF and can I do that with the files I downloaded. What is the advantages of converting to PUFf please explain thanks everyone who would response |
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Bronze Member Username: SomokanoPost Number: 19 Registered: Nov-07 | HI Nalin Please reply me for the conversion to PUFF and its advantage is there any other bin than 254 for converted FLU 2500 to FLU 2700 |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 9249 Registered: Jun-06 | As far as I can see, the only advantage of conversion t PUFF boot is 64K saving in space in the BIN area. That might be a significant advantage. You can read the instructions:
or download the full_kit_PUFF_256B **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- **-- Everything you need for 2500/Flu to 2700 conversion in one package. Instructions included. Either b75 or PUFF http://public.box.net/2500_full_kit You must select whether you want to have the old b75 files or the new PUFF files. If you have b75 boot, you must convert to PUFF boot to use PUFF BINs. Read the instructions properly in the section you have chosen. PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT WITHOUT READING INSTRUCTIONS. |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 14697 Registered: Jan-06 | There is NO advantage to using OLD B75 files...switch to Puff.. LK Platinum Member Username: Lklives Post Number: 14344 Registered: Jan-06 Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 10:00 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the new PUFF 253 bin to convert to PUFF PUFF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also here is the Loader and Boot60 zip. With this New PUFF style bin you will need to convert back to 2500 using just the boot60 bin. In that zip file is the 2700 to 2500 convertor loader by Chancysand as well as the boot60 bin file. Jvvh_Fortec-Pansat_CanAm_(PUFF)_253(640k) bin is the "MUST LOAD FIRST BIN" to get you converted to PUFF. How to Load. Open 2700 to 2500 Loader Converter. Click Bin File, choose Boot60. Turn reciever ON. Let reciever fully boot up ,soon as you see ON hit Download. Write will complete in 10-15 seconds. Reciever will self reboot with knight rider dash (- - - -) rolling across display screen. LEAVE RECIEVER ON DO NOT TURN IT OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Open FortecStarSTB loader or whatever Loader you use before. Load Jvvh_Fortec-Pansat_CanAm_(PUFF)_253_(640K) bin. Hit Download. After download complete reciever will pause on dash. Reciever will self reboot to knight rider dash (- - - -) "again". It will pause on 4th dash for 3-5 minutes DO NOT reboot reciever LEAVE it alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reciever then will self reboot with P U F F_P U F F then pause on F for 30-60 seconds (wait) then display ON. You can then load channel list or just hook up to Sat cable and TV and rescan your sats again(BLIND SCAN). Set Default Key and let it A/R. Turn A/R OFF (except Key Code) if experiencing rebooting issues. No need to do a factory setting in main menu if your not having problems. Do one if you are experiencing problems. Both bins are clone safe. This will now, if done correctly, convert your 2500 or 2500 clone to a PUFF 2700 receiver, which will now require PUFF bins in the future..ALL future converted 2500's and their clones which be required to use PUFF bins, so U should go ahead and do this conversion to PUFF now... Since this above is the PUFF conversion and PUFF 253 fix which is ONLY needed to be done ONCE, there will be future PUFF fixes, like the now current PUFF 255 to keep current with latesr changes...all u do is simpluy overwtite the previous Puff file, each time their is another newer Puff fix..I belive Puff 255 is now the most current, so just overwite it to the receiver after this conversion with Puff 253.. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 9260 Registered: Jun-06 |
Either b75 or PUFF http://public.box.net/2500_full_kit You must select whether you want to have the old b75 files or the new PUFF files. If you have b75 boot, you must convert to PUFF boot to use PUFF BIN |
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Bronze Member Username: Flu_guyPost Number: 69 Registered: Aug-07 | One significant advantage that the PUFF bins might have, is that more memory space could be made available for channels. From reading the posts on this forum, I have a feeling that the users with several LNBs and lots of channels seem to have more problems with crashing and re-boots, (possibly due to a shortage of memory), than those, like me, who only have one LNB and have never had these problems. It's just an idea that I have, and probably only the coders could answer this question definitively. Htiek |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 14700 Registered: Jan-06 | LK Platinum Member Username: Lklives Post Number: 14689 Registered: Jan-06 Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 03:39 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- U are required to EVENTUALLY convert to PUFF bins, as in the future thats all that will be available...these new Puff bins are space savers for the coders, which they needed to create, as DN and Bev have made it necessary for the coders to use less memory space.. so I suggest U start using em now..its no big deal...a very simple conversion.. LK Platinum Member Username: Lklives Post Number: 14690 Registered: Jan-06 Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 03:44 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LK Platinum Member Username: Lklives Post Number: 14214 Registered: Jan-06 Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 11:06 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From FWANK7 to all: "First of all I have to thank Jvvh for always looking ahead of the game and for all he has done for us FLU/2500 reciever owner's.We all should be very happy and realize how lucky we are to have Jvvh on our side. The conversion bins we have now are running out of code space room.Jvvh has for a bit now has this new style of conversion bins he calls PUFF. With PUFF the BG (back ground) is put into the boot section freeing up the bytes that the BG takes up in the actual bin code itself.This new style also allows us to go a little bigger in bin size if needed to be. I believe it's from 448 kb to 512 kb maybe even a bit bigger then that maybe Jvvh will confirm the actual size we can go. With this New PUFF style bin you will need to convert back to 2500 using just the boot60 bin. As you have knight rider lights load the New PUFF 640 kb bin one time to get you converted to PUFF. This is the easiest way we have found to do it so far. Jvvh wanted something to show the peps when changing to PUFF that they will know that they have changed. So Ukronic came up with a new display on your reciever display screen that will show this. Once converted to PUFF your reciever display at start up will go from b 7 5, b 7 5 to P U F F , P U F F. Pause on F for 30 seconds then come ON. You can NOT load a normal b75 compressed 448 kb conversion bin to your reciever afterwards and it must be a new PUFF conversion 448 kb bin. You can NOT load a 448 kb PUFF conversion bin over the b75 conversion bins either, you must convert using PUFF 640 kb conversion bin first in order to load a New PUFF 448 kb conversion bin. For now who's ever PUFF 640 kb conversion bin you put on your reciever to convert to PUFF will be the BG you will have embedded into boot section of your reciever. Don't worry Jvvh says we need to come up with tools to allow you to change BG but that will be in do time. If you use my PUFF 640 kb conversion bin to convert to PUFF, Yes you can use other PUFF 448 kb conversion bins done by others afterwards but it must be PUFF style. NO you will NOT just have to use my PUFF 448 kb conversion bins. It will just keep my BG on your reciever thats all. Again the BG you will be able to change in do time. I have my PUFF 640 kb bin done already (Thanks to Ukronic) and it is a 253 bin so it is up and running. Just wanted to test it out first before I start releasing it to the public. :shock: Everyone will need to eventually change to the PUFF style bins but I will post both sets to give peps the time to convert over to PUFF but again you will have to eventually do it. Want to give HUGE THANKS to Jvvh for always looking out and passing his knowledge on to us. "You are truly the man Jvvh5897" Special THANKS to Ukronic for helping me understand and helping me out time and time again.If it wasn't for Ukronic as well, I wouldn't know most of the things I know now." |
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Silver Member Username: Koko_wawaPost Number: 285 Registered: Aug-07 | Also everytime you download a new bin you do not lose your channels and scan sat again. it saves you time. Sure besides some free memory as mentioned in the previous thread. | |
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Bronze Member Username: Flu_guyPost Number: 70 Registered: Aug-07 | That makes sense, I have never lost my channels, or needed to re-scan after loading the "Non-Puff" bins, again, this could be a memory issue, having only about 250 channels loaded. I personally have not converted to "Puff" yet, as I do not have any problems at the moment. I expect to convert soon though, as support for the "Non-Puff" bins will be declining, I am sure the conversion will be quite straight forward when I do. Htiek |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 9268 Registered: Jun-06 | There are 5-6 B75 BINs out. Even Chancy has got one out belatedly. There are 4 PUFF BINs. It is not a question of argument about which is better. People are reluctant to change. One person who is scanning DN is till using the b75 254 BIN. People are generally practical, not technical. Practical considerations will dictate what is going to be popular. Lothario has come out with a new compression. I still have to fine out what that is all about. |
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Bronze Member Username: Flu_guyPost Number: 71 Registered: Aug-07 | Nalin & LK Yes, I agree, the Puff bins are a good thing, and if Lothario has another scheme that can squeeze even more life out of the Flus and Pancraps, that may turn out to be good too. Yes, people are reluctant to change, me too, I personally subscribe to the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it", mentality, but it sounds like the bugs are getting worked out of the Puff bins now and I will probably switch after the next ECM. Htiek |
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