Installing PUFF Boot and BIN

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8873
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 17:47 GMT

For Pansat 2500/FLU new conversions and converted to 2700
Use only on unconverted 2500/FLU or converted receivers.
DO NOT USE ON Genuine Pansat 2700 or on Pansat 2700 clones

Everything you need for 2500/Flu to 2700 conversion in one package.
Instructions included. Either b75 or PUFF.

You must select whether you want to have the old b75 files or the new PUFF files.

Read the instructions properly in the section you have chosen.
PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT WITHOUT READING INSTRUCTIONS.

http://public.box.net/2500_full_kit

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8879
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 22:43 GMT

Bump

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Username: Kimo74

Post Number: 69
Registered: Jan-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 00:24 GMT

hey nalin

what do u think we should do, convert to this PUFF, or wait and see.. the receiver is working fine now, why should we convert? .

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8882
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 00:29 GMT

Yesterday I was not recommending. today it seems like it is holding well. Chancysand, a well known modifier of BINs, has endorsed it and has stopped producing the b75 version of the 254 BIN.
Today you decide. After 2-3 days I will give more of an opinion.

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Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14324
Registered: Jan-06

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 00:34 GMT

From FWANK7 to all:

"First of all I have to thank Jvvh for always looking ahead of the game and for all he has done for us FLU/2500 reciever owner's.We all should be very happy and realize how lucky we are to have Jvvh on our side.

The conversion bins we have now are running out of code space room.Jvvh has for a bit now has this new style of conversion bins he calls PUFF.

With PUFF the BG (back ground) is put into the boot section freeing up the bytes that the BG takes up in the actual bin code itself.This new style also allows us to go a little bigger in bin size if needed to be. I believe it's from 448 kb to 512 kb maybe even a bit bigger then that maybe Jvvh will confirm the actual size we can go.

With this New PUFF style bin you will need to convert back to 2500 using just the boot60 bin.
As you have knight rider lights load the New PUFF 640 kb bin one time to get you converted to PUFF.
This is the easiest way we have found to do it so far.

Jvvh wanted something to show the peps when changing to PUFF that they will know that they have changed.
So Ukronic came up with a new display on your reciever display screen that will show this.
Once converted to PUFF your reciever display at start up will go from b 7 5, b 7 5 to P U F F , P U F F. Pause on F for 30 seconds then come ON.

You can NOT load a normal b75 compressed 448 kb conversion bin to your reciever afterwards and it must be a new PUFF conversion 448 kb bin.

You can NOT load a 448 kb PUFF conversion bin over the b75 conversion bins either, you must convert using PUFF 640 kb conversion bin first in order to load a New PUFF 448 kb conversion bin.

For now who's ever PUFF 640 kb conversion bin you put on your reciever to convert to PUFF will be the BG you will have embedded into boot section of your reciever. Don't worry Jvvh says we need to come up with tools to allow you to change BG but that will be in do time.

If you use my PUFF 640 kb conversion bin to convert to PUFF, Yes you can use other PUFF 448 kb conversion bins done by others afterwards but it must be PUFF style. NO you will NOT just have to use my PUFF 448 kb conversion bins.

It will just keep my BG on your reciever thats all. Again the BG you will be able to change in do time.

I have my PUFF 640 kb bin done already (Thanks to Ukronic) and it is a 253 bin so it is up and running. Just wanted to test it out first before I start releasing it to the public.

:shock: Everyone will need to eventually change to the PUFF style bins but I will post both sets to give peps the time to convert over to PUFF but again you will have to eventually do it.

Want to give HUGE THANKS to Jvvh for always looking out and passing his knowledge on to us. "You are truly the man Jvvh5897"

Special THANKS to Ukronic for helping me understand and helping me out time and time again.If it wasn't for Ukronic as well, I wouldn't know most of the things I know now."

:shock: Everyone will need to eventually change to the PUFF style bins but I will post both sets to give peps the time to convert over to PUFF but again you will have to eventually do it.

Gold Member

Username: Asharfi

Post Number: 1890
Registered: Aug-06

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 00:45 GMT

Hello,

Just to clear this little bug ...

When you install the BOOT60 and the PUFF 253 file on your converted FLU/2500 - 2700 receivers, you'll notice that when you go to System Information option, it'll still say BOOT version 7.5 ... so ignore that because I think it's just a small bug which is not harmful

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Username: Rekha

Post Number: 5
Registered: Oct-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 00:49 GMT

AV: Should I convert my converted FLU to PUFF now or wait for few days?

Gold Member

Username: Asharfi

Post Number: 1891
Registered: Aug-06

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 00:53 GMT

It's good to convert the unit now because you should always keep your FTA unit updated.

New member

Username: Rekha

Post Number: 6
Registered: Oct-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 00:58 GMT

Thanks a lot. I will try and use your files.

Bronze Member

Username: Kimo74

Post Number: 70
Registered: Jan-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 00:58 GMT

i think i will wait till the channels go down and then convert. what is the point of converting now and the channles are working ??

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Username: Rekha

Post Number: 7
Registered: Oct-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 01:00 GMT

Kamal: You have a vaid point.

New member

Username: Rekha

Post Number: 8
Registered: Oct-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 01:00 GMT

Kamal: I mean valid

Gold Member

Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8923
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 16:03 GMT

INSTALLING PUFF BOOT AND BIN
These instructions are for Pansat2500/FLU whether converted to b75 boot or not
DO NOT USE ON GENUINE PANSAT 2700 OR REAL CLONE PANSAT 2700

Preparation
1. Connect receiver to computer using a straight RS232 cable
2. Turn on racier and let it come to rest at ON or the last channel number
3. Save your current channel list.
4. If your channel list is more than 6 months old, skip all the above.
5. KEEP RECEIVER ON.
Loading Boot60
6. Start 2700 to 2500 conversion software by Chancysand.
7. Select Boot in the Loader software.
8. Select Boot60 from the distributed software.
9. With the receiver ON, click on Write.
10. Wait for write to complete.
11. KEEP RECEIVER ON.
12. You will see horizontal night riders. DO NOT PANIC.
13. Close the 2700 to 2500 conversion loader and
Loading Boot/BIN PUFF '" must use the 640K PUFF BOOT/BIN combo.

14. Start the BL 1.4 updater.
15. Select Chancy's or jvvh 253 boot/Bin 640K file. The file name must have the word PUFF in it.
16. With receiver ON, Select BIN in the Loader and start write BIN.
17. When it has loaded it will say BURN on the loader software .
18. DO NOT SWITCH OFF.
19. When BURN is completed, your receiver will reboot and sat P-U-F-F
20. Leave it on.
21. Wait till it stops PUFFing and says ON.
22. Now switch it off.
Loading latest PUFF BIN. This is the part to be repeated in future with newer PUFF BINs. You will always use PUFF BINs clearly labeled PUFF

23. In the BL update 1.4, select the latest 254 PUFF BIN and select BIN in the loader. Keep right hand on mouse ready to write.
24. Turn on receiver at the back using left hand and as soon as you see P (of PUFF) scrolling, click on Write with right hand.
25. Again wait for BURN to take place and then the receiver will reboot, go through the P-U-F-F cycle and rest with ON showing.
Loading Channels.
26. Now install the channels using channel master.
27. Disconnect from receiver and connect to your TV.
Do user set up and attend to autoroll.
28. First thing '" do a user setup including date.time, time zone and turn closed caption off.
Blind Scan if Channel list old or not available.
29. If your channel list is good, you may skip a blind scan, otherwise do a Blind scan of your sat '" just one sat first.
30. If keys do not autoroll, go into parental control (CAS menu) and click on 'Set Default key and wait for autoroll to load the keys. It takes about 2-3 minutes.
31. You must do switch Off and On at the back in between if things are not happening as they should..

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Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 277
Registered: Aug-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 17:18 GMT

As I stated last nite that I successfully converted my FLU into PUFF the advantage of this conversion is that I got all channels from eco3,7,and 8,10. When the bin changes and I download a new bin the channels stay and I do not need to download them again. Plus the advantage of having extra memory just in case is needed in the future.

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Username: Rekha

Post Number: 9
Registered: Oct-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 19:23 GMT

karkour kaka: Did you use AV's files or Nalin's files to convert?

sada

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Username: Saqeeb9000

Mughe dard rehta hai, ..., Mujhe bhook ...

Post Number: 2741
Registered: Oct-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 19:42 GMT

rekha nalin or av don't make the files themselves coder's do they are all same.. both are trust worthy guys..

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Username: Rekha

Post Number: 11
Registered: Oct-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 19:48 GMT

Sada: Thanks. I have converted to Puff and used JVVH 253 (puff) file. Is it safe to down load CS 254 (PUFF) file over it?

sada

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Username: Saqeeb9000

Mughe dard rehta hai, ..., Mujhe bhook ...

Post Number: 2742
Registered: Oct-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 19:51 GMT

wait, for answer from nalin's or av's response both are tester and own those boxes .. i don't have pansat rec...sorry

African

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Username: Kirankumar

Kenya

Post Number: 2035
Registered: Oct-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 19:51 GMT

rekah,
read Nalin's post above ,it has full instructions

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Username: Kimo74

Post Number: 71
Registered: Jan-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 19:55 GMT

HEY NALIN AND AV

i was trying to convert my recevier to the puff. I downloaded the boot file with no problem, and i got the night rider, while downloading the other file my computer freezed and i had to restart..and the recievr also freezed.. itried to download the 2nd file the receiver didn't accept it. any way, i restarted the reciver and the file was downloaded ( Jvvh_Fortec-Pansat_CanAm_(PUFF)_253_(640K). it was downloaded and i got the message that download was completed, but the receiver was freezed with the night rider on the screen but it wasn't moving. I shut it down, and tried to open it again..it is not opening..the screen shows nothing..i can't even tell if there is power going to the receiver or not..

so, IS IT KILLED..OR I CAN DO SOMTHING ???

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8962
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 22:00 GMT

KAMAL:
TURN ON and KEEP RECIEVER ON
Install boot B60 using
2700 to 2500 Loader Converter.exe and a setting of Boot in the loader.
KEEP RECIEVER ON. DO NOT TURN RECEIVER OFF
Wait till you are really fed up of looking at night riders. Close the special loader.

Use BL updater 1.4 supplied and install
Jvvh_Fortec-Pansat_CanAm_(PUFF)_253_(640K).BIN or\
CS_253T_PUFF_BOOT_Serial_Lightning.bin
The setting for the loader should be BIN.
You must see the word BURN appear on the loader software and then you must see the rebooting of receiver automatically with the word PUFF.
WAIT TILL RECEIVER SAYS "ON".
Wait till you are fed up of looking at the word ON.

Turn receiver off. Keep BL updater active but now get ready with a BIN load of
Jvvh_Fortec-Pansat_CanAm_254_(PUFF).bin or
CS_254T_PUFF_Serial_Lightning.bin
Get ready with mouse to write th eBin. Turn on receiver and when "P" appears click on write.
Wait till Burn finishes and the receiver reboots and and say "ON"

Load your saved channels list if you have one.

After connecting, do User setup. If you did not use channel master, you should do antenna set up and a Blind Scan.

Arabic user

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Username: Arabic

Windsor, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 15
Registered: May-05

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 22:05 GMT

Hi Nalin
I have a converted FLU and have been using b_75. I tried to load the boot60 file using the loader provided in the kit, but it did not accept to start downloading.
It always does that when I choose "boot" button in the loader, not the bin one. However it works well in downloading the bin to the reciever.

Any suggestions
thanks in advance

Gold Member

Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8963
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 22:11 GMT

Posted by rekha on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 02:45 pm:

Nalin: I just converted to PUFF with JVVH 253 (puff) file. Can I use
CS 254(puff) file over it?
Yes you can - any 254(puff) BIN. Currently there are three to choose from
jvvh_PUFF_254, CS_PUFF_254, and Lothario_PUFF_254.

Jogi Mago

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Username: Jkmago

Post Number: 182
Registered: Nov-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 22:21 GMT

Hi Nalin

Do you reccommend that we should convert to Puff as per procedure suggessted by you immediately or should we wait for fresh breakdown.

Appreciate your personal opinion on this conversion to PUFF.
Is it possible to go back to b75 later or PUFF is better

Thanks Nalin

Bronze Member

Username: Kimo74

Post Number: 72
Registered: Jan-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 22:45 GMT

Nalin

The screen of the receiver is dead..it show nothing..and i tried to upload the boot file, but it is not working. i think i killed the receiver. Please read my previous post

Gold Member

Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8969
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 23:15 GMT

kamal: What is the name of your receiver?

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Username: Kimo74

Post Number: 73
Registered: Jan-07

Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 23:49 GMT

it is fortec ultra which was converted to a panast clone. I tried to convert it to the puff.

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Username: Imauser

Post Number: 86
Registered: Oct-07

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 15:55 GMT

Can someone tell me that do I need both STRAIGHT and NULL cables in order to convert my FLU(b-75) to PUFF

Platinum Member

Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14418
Registered: Jan-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 16:08 GMT

The straight cable is all U need..and this is a VERY simple conversion to PUFF ..all U are doing is basically loading 2 new files..

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Username: Imauser

Post Number: 87
Registered: Oct-07

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 16:22 GMT

thanks, but when you click on "instructions" on 2700 to 2500 Loader, it says that "CONNECT (RS232 NULL MODEM) CABLE BETWEEN PC AND RECEIVER"

y is that????

jonster187

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Username: Quan1114

Post Number: 3
Registered: Mar-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 16:24 GMT

I have a pansat 2500, then converted to 2700, and now converted to puff. After the puff conversion, do I have to pick "2500" on Channel Master now?

jonster187

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Username: Quan1114

Post Number: 4
Registered: Mar-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 16:30 GMT

When I try to write a channel list with Channel Master, it says "write failed". Percentage bar never goes up, just stuck at 0%. So I did a blind scan and tried to read all the channels back to edit the list, and it says "read failed". It's like Channel Master can't communicate with my box. Have never had this problem before. I've used Channel Master hundreds of times. But the weird thing is that I can write both puff files fine. I've tried reinstalling my serial cable drivers, channel master, reflashing, everything. Can someone please help?

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Username: Kimo74

Post Number: 74
Registered: Jan-07

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 16:31 GMT

hey nalin

do u have an answer regarding my receiver

Platinum Member

Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14421
Registered: Jan-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 16:50 GMT

Thread: PUFF 2500-2700 conversion guide and files..

LK
Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14344
Registered: Jan-06
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 10:00 am:

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Here is the new PUFF 253 bin to convert to PUFF PUFF

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Also here is the Loader and Boot60 zip.

With this New PUFF style bin you will need to convert back to 2500 using just the boot60 bin.

In that zip file is the 2700 to 2500 convertor loader by Chancysand as well as the boot60 bin file.

Jvvh_Fortec-Pansat_CanAm_(PUFF)_253(640k) bin is the "MUST LOAD FIRST BIN" to get you converted to PUFF.

How to Load.

Open 2700 to 2500 Loader Converter.

Click Bin File, choose Boot60.

Turn reciever ON.

Let reciever fully boot up ,soon as you see ON hit Download.

Write will complete in 10-15 seconds.
Reciever will self reboot with knight rider dash (- - - -) rolling across display screen.

LEAVE RECIEVER ON DO NOT TURN IT OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Open FortecStarSTB loader or whatever Loader you use before.
Load Jvvh_Fortec-Pansat_CanAm_(PUFF)_253_(640K) bin.
Hit Download.

After download complete reciever will pause on dash.
Reciever will self reboot to knight rider dash (- - - -) "again".

It will pause on 4th dash for 3-5 minutes DO NOT reboot reciever LEAVE it alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reciever then will self reboot with P U F F_P U F F then pause on F for 30-60 seconds (wait) then display ON.

You can then load channel list or just hook up to Sat cable and TV and rescan your sats again(BLIND SCAN).
Set Default Key and let it A/R.
Turn A/R OFF (except Key Code) if experiencing rebooting issues.

No need to do a factory setting in main menu if your not having problems.
Do one if you are experiencing problems.

Both bins are clone safe.

~~http://rapidshare.com/files/97978493/attachmentpuff60_114.zip.html~~

~~http://rapidshare.com/files/97978679/attachment253puff_116.zip.html~~

This will now, if done correctly, convert your 2500 or 2500 clone to a PUFF 2700 receiver, which will now require PUFF bins in the future..ALL future converted 2500's and their clones which be required to use PUFF bins, so U should go ahead and do this conversion to PUFF now...

Since this above is the PUFF conversion and PUFF 253 fix which is ONLY needed to be done ONCE, there will be future PUFF fixes, like the now current PUFF 254 to keep current with latesr changes...all u do is simpluy overwtite the previous Puff file, each time their is another newer Puff fix..I belive Puff 254 is now the most current, so just overwite it to the receiver after this conversion with Puff 253..

LK
Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14345
Registered: Jan-06
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 10:02 am:

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From FWANK7 to all:

"First of all I have to thank Jvvh for always looking ahead of the game and for all he has done for us FLU/2500 reciever owner's.We all should be very happy and realize how lucky we are to have Jvvh on our side.

The conversion bins we have now are running out of code space room.Jvvh has for a bit now has this new style of conversion bins he calls PUFF.

With PUFF the BG (back ground) is put into the boot section freeing up the bytes that the BG takes up in the actual bin code itself.This new style also allows us to go a little bigger in bin size if needed to be. I believe it's from 448 kb to 512 kb maybe even a bit bigger then that maybe Jvvh will confirm the actual size we can go.

With this New PUFF style bin you will need to convert back to 2500 using just the boot60 bin.
As you have knight rider lights load the New PUFF 640 kb bin one time to get you converted to PUFF.
This is the easiest way we have found to do it so far.

Jvvh wanted something to show the peps when changing to PUFF that they will know that they have changed.
So Ukronic came up with a new display on your reciever display screen that will show this.
Once converted to PUFF your reciever display at start up will go from b 7 5, b 7 5 to P U F F , P U F F. Pause on F for 30 seconds then come ON.

You can NOT load a normal b75 compressed 448 kb conversion bin to your reciever afterwards and it must be a new PUFF conversion 448 kb bin.

You can NOT load a 448 kb PUFF conversion bin over the b75 conversion bins either, you must convert using PUFF 640 kb conversion bin first in order to load a New PUFF 448 kb conversion bin.

For now who's ever PUFF 640 kb conversion bin you put on your reciever to convert to PUFF will be the BG you will have embedded into boot section of your reciever. Don't worry Jvvh says we need to come up with tools to allow you to change BG but that will be in do time.

If you use my PUFF 640 kb conversion bin to convert to PUFF, Yes you can use other PUFF 448 kb conversion bins done by others afterwards but it must be PUFF style. NO you will NOT just have to use my PUFF 448 kb conversion bins.

It will just keep my BG on your reciever thats all. Again the BG you will be able to change in do time.

I have my PUFF 640 kb bin done already (Thanks to Ukronic) and it is a 253 bin so it is up and running. Just wanted to test it out first before I start releasing it to the public.

:shock: Everyone will need to eventually change to the PUFF style bins but I will post both sets to give peps the time to convert over to PUFF but again you will have to eventually do it.

Want to give HUGE THANKS to Jvvh for always looking out and passing his knowledge on to us. "You are truly the man Jvvh5897"

Special THANKS to Ukronic for helping me understand and helping me out time and time again.If it wasn't for Ukronic as well, I wouldn't know most of the things I know now."

P.S. I am testing it and it works awesome

FWANK7

:shock: Everyone will need to eventually change to the PUFF style bins but I will post both sets to give peps the time to convert over to PUFF but again you will have to eventually do it.

LK
Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14346
Registered: Jan-06
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 10:14 am:

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If you did not load the Jvvh_Fortec-Pansat_CanAm_(PUFF)_253_(640K) bin onto your reciever then DO NOT load this bin (see instructions above how to switch to PUFF).

IF NOT ALREADY PUFF CONVERTED....Load onto your PC: 1. PUFF60.zip 2. 253PUFF.zip and latest 254PUFF.zip and unzip files....and do as above sttes

This file is "ONLY" for people who switched to PUFF.

Do a blind scan or SAT scan. Set Default Key and let it A/R.

Turn A/R OFF (except Key Code) only if experiencing rebooting issues.

Jvvh_Fortec-Pansat_CanAm_254_(PUFF).zip linked here...

~~http://rapidshare.com/files/97981988/jvvh_fortec_pansat_canam_254_puff_527.zip.h~~ tml

REMEMBER now..ONCE U CONCERT TO PUFF with the PUFF 253 file in first post here, all U need to do is just overwite the previous Puff file by uploading the latest PUFF file and then

Do a blind scan or SAT scan. Set Default Key and let it A/R....autoroll...may take 10-15 minutes

Turn A/R OFF (except Key Code) only if experiencing rebooting issues.

Gold Member

Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8987
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 20:55 GMT

The Fwang7 instructions are alittle shaky. I am using Chancy's instructions.

Upload
INSTALLING PUFF BOOT AND BIN.doc (22.5 k)

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8988
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 21:19 GMT

Kamal: It is unusual to kill using these BINs. However it does happen occasionally with very old type of fortecs.
If there is no light and you are not able to load the b60 BOOT whether using BOOT or BIN in the 2700-2500 reversion, than the only thing you can do is jtag.

Gold Member

Username: Nydas

Post Number: 8989
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 21:22 GMT

Rekha: You can load a 460K PUFF BIN on top of any other 460K PUFF BIN or on top of a 640K PUFF BOOT/BIN.
You can also install a CS_PUFF BOOT (640K) on top of jvvh_PUFF_640 BOOT but I usually prefer to do it in two stage through using b60 BOOT first.
You can install b60 boot (revert to 2500) anytime but make sure you use the converter loader.

Platinum Member

Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14440
Registered: Jan-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 22:00 GMT

AGAIN...for those that missed it the other 10x....

REMEMBER now..ONCE U CONVERT TO PUFF with the PUFF 253 file, all U need to do is just overwite the previous Puff file by uploading the latest PUFF file and then

Do a blind scan or SAT scan. Set Default Key and let it A/R....autoroll...may take 10-15 minutes

Turn A/R OFF (except Key Code) only if experiencing rebooting issues.

Gold Member

Username: Nydas

Post Number: 9001
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 22:02 GMT

For Pansat 2500/FLU new conversions and converted to 2700
Use only on unconverted 2500/FLU or converted receivers.
DO NOT USE ON Genuine Pansat 2700 or on Pansat 2700 clones

Everything you need for 2500/Flu to 2700 conversion in one package.
Instructions included. Either b75 or PUFF

You must select whether you want to have the old b75 files or the new PUFF files.
If you have b75 boot, you must convert to PUFF boot to use PUFF BINs.

Read the instructions properly in the section you have chosen.
PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT WITHOUT READING INSTRUCTIONS.

Platinum Member

Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14442
Registered: Jan-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 22:04 GMT

:shock: Everyone will need to eventually change to the PUFF style bins but I will post both sets to give peps the time to convert over to PUFF but again you will have to eventually do it.

Gold Member

Username: Nydas

Post Number: 9003
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 22:10 GMT

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 9012
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 22:32 GMT

Somebody had asked about cables. The original receiver's hardware characteristics have NOT changed. therefore, use your old RS232 straight DB9 F/F cable.

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Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 278
Registered: Aug-07

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 22:51 GMT

I followed Nalin instructions and converted my 2500 FLU to PUFF 2 days ago. Now there are 2 problems:
1. Every time I turn off and try to use the remote to turn on it freezes at "ON" and I have to turn off/ on from the back switch. A/R is off except code keys is on. This is a problem.
2. The picture sometimes freezes, but not a big issue

Platinum Member

Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14454
Registered: Jan-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 22:54 GMT

That your problem...U listened to nalin...

Seriously...are U aware that she has killed thousands of receivers in the past year here with her bogus wrongful info and posts...

This is a well know fact here..no BS!

Silver Member

Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 280
Registered: Aug-07

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 22:58 GMT

Then, What is the solution?

Gold Member

Username: Nydas

Post Number: 9020
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 22:58 GMT

KK: Change to Lothario_PUFF_254_BIN

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Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 281
Registered: Aug-07

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 23:01 GMT

I have already loaded as I mentioned 2 nite ago the latest bin 254(2)march 7, do you mean that I should go back and download 254 (1)?

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Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14456
Registered: Jan-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 23:09 GMT

nalin has no clue about this FTA stuff...NONE...but since U all want her, and listen to her...now live with her and NO TV...I'll be at sites that don't allow people like nalin...which is almost any other site, since nalin is not allowed at too many places, but here..

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 9021
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 23:44 GMT

KK: There are various thing you can try.
1. Use th eP and F at the bottm of your remoter and change.
2. You can remove the battery of the remote and reset the remote that way.
3. You can change to the Lothario PUF_254, which has always been more tolerant of the type of remote.
4. You can reinstall the 640K boot/bin - if you had jvvh, try the cs and vice versa.

Juan Ramirezone

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Username: Juancho

De los cerros mas alto..., BINDURABLE.

Post Number: 2516
Registered: Dec-06

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 23:49 GMT

There are 4 PUFF bins, the last one is 254 nkk PUFF, this bin works Ok for pansats,FLU, Lava , etc, I tested that bin,

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 9031
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 01:31 GMT

KK: Nkk makes reliable files. I have not seen a PUFF_Nkk_254, but if it is there, you could try it.
Now that you have a PUFF conversion, better to stick to it. Most reports are good to very good.
All PUFF Boots and BINs have the word PUFF in the name.

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Username: Kimo74

Post Number: 75
Registered: Jan-07

Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 02:26 GMT

is there any site to tell me how to do jtag of my receiver. it is a Fortec ultra converted to pansat, while i was trying to convert to puff it frozen on me so i had to turn it off and on again, after that it showes NOTHING... THE SCREEN IS BLACK.

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 9037
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 02:57 GMT

Kamal: Join ftatalk.com You will find everything there - jtag, boot, BINs instructions etc.

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Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 282
Registered: Aug-07

Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 11:54 GMT

I solved the problem by turning on then off A/R, and hard rebooting agian. Now it works fine and everytime the receiver turns on using the remote only and no need to switch on from the back.

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Username: Snuffles07

Post Number: 29
Registered: Jan-08

Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 02:21 GMT

Nalyn, I have a Vortex Pro 7700 that has NOT been updated to the B75 file. I haven't used it in a couple of months. Do I follow the same instructions as for the FLU?

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 9127
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 02:25 GMT

Vortex Pro 7700 is a Pansat 2500 clone and will use the same conversion as announced for 2500/FLU. Once it is converted it wors like a 2700, but uses the covnersion files. With Channel Master you treat as a 2700 (not 2500)

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Username: Snuffles07

Post Number: 30
Registered: Jan-08

Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 02:34 GMT

O.K., but go slow cuz i'm slow. This is what my box says:

X-85BL
API:2.80a_EU
Boot ver:6.0
03.Oct.2006
Future-FTA

It's old I know. But what do I do to the box. I don't wanna fry it. It hasn't even been converted to the B75.

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Username: Snuffles07

Post Number: 31
Registered: Jan-08

Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 02:37 GMT

And what in the world is channel master? Can't I just blind scan after I convert and not worry about channel master?

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Username: Snuffles07

Post Number: 33
Registered: Jan-08

Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 02:58 GMT

LK, sorry that we ask Nalyn for help, it's just that Nalyn was around when you weren't and has tried best to help all of us out. I respect you and Nalyn a whole lot because both of you have helped me out a lot before.