HDMI Questions
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Platinum Member Username: Basshead86FTW Post Number: 10309 Registered: Aug-05 | So, i need some knowledge from the higher powers that wander the internet about some myths and truths to the HMDI beast. 1. HDMI 1.3 is the newest of the new for HDMI and it supports everything up to 10.2 gbps right? 2. What is the truthful difference between the HDMI 1.3 cables they sell at Target, Walmart(Belkin, Philips, Sony) and the $120 Monster cables they sell at BB and CC besides the quality of the Shielding?? 3. Do you need a Monster 1000 series ultra high speed cable to run a 120hz tv to its fullest potential? a guy at BB told me that the higher speed HDMI cables are better suited to transfer pictures for the 120hz, but that is done at the TV so why would it matter??? 4. i ALSO have an older (2-3 yrs old) Dynex HDMI cable from when they were first coming out, would i benefit from upgrading to a newer cable that supports HDMI 1.3?? I think that about covers my questions for now. Because i am getting a new TV soon and i want to have the best connections and make sure my equipment as far as cables are concerned are as up to date as possible. Thanks Guys!!  |
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Gold Member Username: SamijubalPost Number: 4053 Registered: Jul-04 | A monster HDMI cable is a waste of money. What are you connecting with the HDMI cable? Most sources don't support 1.3 yet. |
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Platinum Member Username: Basshead86FTW Post Number: 10311 Registered: Aug-05 | so i found a website called www.HDMI.com and i found the answer to nearly every question. so then why does Monster sell these $120, $150 cables for no reason. When the ones you can get at Target ($40 for 6 ft.) are exactly the same as far as specs....except for the shielding. Anything under 10ft, and standard cabling could be used but anything over that and higher speed cabling(which is HDMI 1.3) needs to be used. i think i got it. lol looks like i am going to spend $80 on 2 cables instead of $120 on 1.  |
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Gold Member Username: SamijubalPost Number: 4054 Registered: Jul-04 | you can get the same quality cables on ebay for a lot less than $40. Monster sells them for that price because there's suckers that will pay that much for them thinking their picture will be better. You can get a decent quality 1.3 cable on ebay for less than $10. Just brouse the listings and pick a good one. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York Citay in-HD, NY Post Number: 3939 Registered: Oct-06 | "Do you need a Monster 1000 series ultra high speed cable to run a 120hz" The answer is simply NO As of 2006 new HDMI standards is HDMI 1.3 This supports upto 10.2Gbps Meaning if there is any digital device ouputs 1080p Then yo have to use HDMI 1.3 Currently only 2 devices are capable of such - Blu-ray DVD players for high definition - DN HD-Turbo and that's currently for on-demand movies The basic simple answer is for an HDMI marked 1.3 1080p Usually they sell for $10 Don't get duped with all the over priced craps out there From gold plated to all the false claims The other thing is If yo got a real high quality HDTV 1080p/120 Let me tell yo how this wrks: 1080p=60 frames per second progressive scan Compared to 1080i= 30 frames per second interlaced The new thin now Is taking 1080p TV signal and the TV will upscale the 60 frames per second to 120 frames per second refresh cycles It's all signal proessing done internally by yor TV Therefore any 1080p HDMI 1.3 will do the job I haven't seen any remarkable difference in picture quality besides 1080p blu-ray For a very simple reason All HD broadcast is currently in 1080i/30 boosting 1080i to imitate 1080p/60 cycles That's an improvement But yo won't see any improvements boosted to 120 refresh cycles Not from a 1080i broadcast source Only from blu-ray at this time DishNet found a way to offer on-demand movies in blu-ray quality at true 1080p I'm yet to see it But I can't doubt it at present time To save yo money Goto e-bay type HDMI 1.3 1080p cable purchase 2 at $10 each Come back and tell me if yor happy about it Or buy one from e-bay the other from target And see if yo can observe any difference Please come back tell me which way yo chose I know yor getting ready for the super bowl I can see it inyor eyes I can't watch football for a simple reason My NY Giants are out  Peace Bro King |
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Platinum Member Username: Basshead86FTW Post Number: 10313 Registered: Aug-05 | hell yeah Massey! i just got off the phone with a friend that paid $17 a piece for some HDMI 1.3's at Walmart. and would you mind elaborating on the most sources dont support 1.3 yet comment?? does that mean they dont send(in digital information) the extra data that the 1.3 supports? |
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Platinum Member Username: Basshead86FTW Post Number: 10314 Registered: Aug-05 | damn King!!!!! lemme read all that first and then i will post something with some sense. LMAO |
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Platinum Member Username: Basshead86FTW Post Number: 10315 Registered: Aug-05 | so why the eff does Monster have on their website under each cable respectively when any cable that totes the HDMI 1.3a-b-c stamp do 10.2 gbps?? 1. 700 series - 4.xx gbps 2. 800 series - 7.xx gbps 3. 1000 series - 10.2 gbps is this all Marketing Gahbage??? why would they mislead you when there is SOOO much information to contradict there false claims about "better, faster, better-looking" cables???? i would like to see the Cards' win it BTW. my pops likes the Pats and Steelers, but i want the team who has a 61 year gap to win it. call me crazy |
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Gold Member Username: SamijubalPost Number: 4055 Registered: Jul-04 | Like King said, Blu-ray players is about the only place you'll get a 1080p signal and need 1.3. DN has been advertising 1080p with on demand, wheather it's actually high quality or not I don't know, cable and satellite companies can compress channels pretty bad, it would require a 1.3 cable too. I bought a good quality 3' HDMI cable on ebay for $6 or $7 shipped, I don't remember which. I bought a 6' cable from eforcecity for $2 shipped when they had one of the first 2000 sales things they do pretty regularly. bensbargains.net has the sales come up all the time but the stuff goes real fast. The ebay cable is considerably better quality. Monster has to come up with some type of hype just like Bose. How else can they sell their way over priced stuff? |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York Citay in-HD, NY Post Number: 3940 Registered: Oct-06 | They can claim anything they want There are always consumers go for the priced products Without looking for electronics specs such as gold plated and superior shield etc. Now how is that gonna improve bit rate transfer? Simply RipOff HDMI 1.3 is pin configuration change from 1.2 and 1.1 Yo can trust me on that |
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Platinum Member Username: GlasswolfNorthWest, MI USA Post Number: 12337 Registered: Dec-03 | 1. read the wikipedia page on HDMI it has the revision history 2. no real difference. it's digital. ones and zeros. the data either gets there or it doesn't. use ebay or newegg.com and get your 6' HDMI cable for $6. 3. see #2 4: I'd get a current cable just to be sure allpins are used throughout the cable for support on pin 13 for CEC/AVlink and so forth. |
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Platinum Member Username: Basshead86FTW Post Number: 10318 Registered: Aug-05 | sounds great guys!!! thanks for all the help!! i was going to go tonite, but my dam battery is dead. alt problems. oh well, gonnna go tomorrow though. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York Citay in-HD, NY Post Number: 3941 Registered: Oct-06 | Yo can read this section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Definition_Multimedia_Interface Also look at the pin configuration on the right side from the top I go by pin configuration |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York Citay in-HD, NY Post Number: 3943 Registered: Oct-06 | Hey GlassWolf I did some research about CEC It turned out that it was an addition of pin 13 which is CEC that was not available on HDMI 1.3 Very minor difference now upto version 1.3C For Command remote control which what I thought transport commands |
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Platinum Member Username: Basshead86FTW Post Number: 10319 Registered: Aug-05 | after learning all this about HDMI and about how all the hype is b.s..... i feel like when Neo wakes up in his jelly-sac in the Matrix....like it was all an illusion. LMAO!! |
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