HDTV signal split

 

New member
Username: Juicedup

St. Augustine, Florida USA

Post Number: 3
Registered: Jun-08
Is there a way to split an incoming Direct TV HD satellite signal to a tv in another room with only 1 receiver on main TV? I used to do this with low-def, but the radio shack digital splitter I used before doesn't work with new HD receiver.

I just can't see paying THE MAN to set this up plus another $5-$10 / month for another receiver.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mucho

Post Number: 403
Registered: Dec-07
Josh Patterson
It may be cheaper to pay the man.


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Platinum Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 10986
Registered: Jun-06
Basically, you have 3 methods to get a satellite feed to a 2nd tv:

1- Add a new (HD or SD) receiver where the 2nd tv is (needs it's own coax input cable from the dish or multiswitch). This will add $4.99/mth to your bill for the extra receiver.
2- Run a cable (composite/hdmi/component/coax w/rf modulator) from the main satellite receiver to the 2nd tv (all outputs are active).
3- Use a wireless transmitter from the main receiver to the 2nd tv - this is very expensive.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mucho

Post Number: 405
Registered: Dec-07
Nalin
Josh said that he does have a NEW DirecTV HD Receiver but don't want to pay for another one.

I do have a question for you sir.
On your method number 2
How do you know that this new
DirecTV HD Receiver will work on this type of setup. Did you try it????
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 10987
Registered: Jun-06
White Hawk:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/directvs-h21-200-hd-receiver-gets-previewed/

Also see specs: DirecTV H20 Receiver
BACK PANEL/JACK PANEL
Off-Air ATSC Input
1 Female F-Connector (split Internally to 2 ATSC tuners)
1 HDMI
1 Component HD Video Out (YPrPB)
2 Composite Video Out (RCA)
1 S-Video
2 Audio/Video Out

1 Digital Optical
2 Telephone Jacks
1 33.6 Kbps Modem
2 USB Port (Future Use)
120VAC / 60 Hz / 98W

Also see specs: DirecTV H21 Receiver
A· DirecTV H21 HD Satellite Receiver NEW Product!
o Digital Audio Output (Coaxial) NEW!
o RJ-45 Ethernet Connection NEW!
o Black Case Color NEW!
o RF Remote Control Capability
o HDTV Capability
o Dolby Digital Sound Capability
o MPEG4 Capability!
o HDMI Output
o Component Outputs


There is no signal or quality loss using more than one output simultaneously over a reasonable distance
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 10988
Registered: Jun-06
An RF modulator converts the COMPOSITE connection set on your HD receiver (DVR notwithstanding) to coax.

If you want to run all HD TV's you can get a distribution box that will feed the signal to more than one TV, just like they do at Best Buy, etc.
 

Silver Member
Username: Mucho

Post Number: 407
Registered: Dec-07
Nalin I don't know much about these HD Receivers thats way I ask.

My question still is until I have the time to check it out, Why would DirecTV
put out a receiver where you can use it to connect to another HD TV and from that one to another and so on?

If this is possible, that means the second TV can only watch what the first TV is watching.

Also why this 2X1 HD Splitter that cost soo much???
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 10989
Registered: Jun-06
There is absolutely no doubt that the 2nd and/or third TV will watch the same channel under the use of 2-3 types of video signal outputs of the same receiver. If anybody wants to watch different channels they will have to go through the switching method about which there have been thousands of posts. Considering the cost of a switch, it is hardly worthwhile going through the other route which we are discussing now.
The other thing I forgot to mention is that the RF modulator method is feasible on a composite output. On a component output it will give only video signal and you would have to rely on the "digital audio" for the audio portion. More information should be obtained from the other forums of Ecoustics which I very seldom visit.
 

New member
Username: Juicedup

St. Augustine, Florida USA

Post Number: 4
Registered: Jun-08
So....guys...what I think you're saying, in lay person's terms, is that I need to buy the 1:2 HD splitter in the picture above and then I can just run the cable through the wall to 2nd tv.? Will have to watch on 2nd tv whatever is on tv 1, which is how it used to work when I split the low-def signal.? Is that correct? Don't know how much the HD splitter costs or where to get it, but I assume this method is cheaper than paying Direct TV $100 to set it up plus $5/month ($60/yr).

thanks for the advice.

JP
 

Silver Member
Username: Mucho

Post Number: 408
Registered: Dec-07
Josh Patterson
Will have to watch on 2nd tv whatever is on tv 1,
Using the splitter above. NO

The splitter above is very expensive.
Cost $300.00 to $400.00.

Since you are a Subscriber to DirecTV
and have High Definition TV I would think
that you will be better off to get another Receiver
from DirecTV to enjoy your HD service trouble free.
 

Gold Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 2736
Registered: Jan-08
I found it for $14.30

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10113&cs_id=1011303 &p_id=2522&seq=1&format=2&style=

And cable for it:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10240&style=

Buy a remote extender and Enjoy

http://www.radioshack.com/sm-wireless-remote-extender--pi-2049642.html
 

Gold Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 2737
Registered: Jan-08
Remote extender:

http://www.radioshack.com/sm-wireless-remote-extender--pi-2049642.html
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2941
Registered: Oct-06
Instead of splitting
Yo can take it off the RGB out
(Max 50' cable)5 conductor wires plus connectors is required
If yo are good with wires I can tell yo how to
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 11001
Registered: Jun-06
King: That's what I tried to tell the guy a couple of days ago.
"2- Run a cable (composite/hdmi/component/coax w/rf modulator) from the main satellite receiver to the 2nd tv (all outputs are active). "
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2942
Registered: Oct-06
Yes Nalin
yo have a good post
Yor post is a lot better than splicing an HDMI which Hawk knows very little about
Paying the guy is for people that don't understand alternatives

Josh
If yor second TV is a regular SD TV
Then out of HD receiver HDMI to TV-1
Coax cable out of receiver to TV-2
Note TV-2 will have to be SD 480i TV

If TV-2 is also an HD
Then best choice will be RGB component plus L/R audio
5 conductor wire plus ground plus RCA connectors yo'll save over $60 a year

Yo can also add a $20 IR-blaster and control receiver remote on both TVs simultaniously

Please note that HDMI and component for 1080i, 720p, 480p
Coax and composite is for 480i no upscale
 

Silver Member
Username: Rekman

Mntl-Quebec-...

Post Number: 384
Registered: Jun-06
hi Nalynnn... how are you.. long time not connected with this forum.... How things going huh???
As always need your help..
i downloaded Bin 177 for my cools*t 5000.. but it is still saying SCRAMBLE CHANNEL... y this??
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 11003
Registered: Jun-06
MKM: 177 for C00LSAT 4000 and 177 for C00LSAT 5000 are reported working fine for BEV and DN. 173 is also reported working wel. Most BINs 173 onwards should work well with Dn.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 11004
Registered: Jun-06
King: Please state clearly whether the combination of component output and digital audio output of H21 receiver is a good choice for use on a second TV?
 

Silver Member
Username: Mucho

Post Number: 416
Registered: Dec-07
Josh Patterson
I still say Since you are a Subscriber to DirecTV
and have High Definition TV I would think
that you will be better off to get another Receiver
from DirecTV to enjoy your HD service trouble free.
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2946
Registered: Oct-06
That's a great question Nalin
Many people think take audio out off optical port via HDMI is much much better
What I state for HD audio it is still 48k sample rate at 24 bit resolution but taken from the analog port
I say yo lose about 1/4 of a genertion
Yo have to be an audio freak to tell the difference
I say little or no difference

As far as the Video out to component
Upto 1080i yo'll get increadable HD picture again very little or no difference

If yo have a high notch 1080p HDTV RGB component won't upscale 1080i to 1080p
That if yo are using 1080p Blu-ray DVD media I say if yo got top notch 1080p HDTV use 1.3 HDMI cable and secondary HDTv use RGB component
Yo'll still be thrilled with picture quality from component

This is a great test to do yorself
- Get both TV next to each other
- Use short 5-RGB/RW wires to conduct test
- Connect HD receiver to TV-1 via HDMI cable
- Take RGB/RW wires to TV-2
- Conduct test to compare and decide for yorself if before yo install long cables
- Yo might have to select TV-2 as component input
- HD Receiver can output signal from all ports at same time(HDMI, Component, S-Video, Composite and Coax) no selection on receiver's part only TV input
 

Silver Member
Username: Rekman

Mntl-Quebec-...

Post Number: 385
Registered: Jun-06
help me pleease with my cools*t 5000 its saying SCRAMBLE CHANNEL even with new bin 177
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