Comparison list

 

New member
Username: Tin_ear

Post Number: 1
Registered: May-07
After many years, I finally have an excuse to upgrade speakers. The room is roughly 4,000 cu feet, roughly L-shaped with speakers pointed down one leg of the L. A grand piano and dining room table fight them for space. I listen mostly to jazz, but also classic R&B and a hodgepodge of other music, almost entirely at low to moderate volume. I'm not one tiny bit interested in HT, but I'll probably run the TV through them because it's own sound system is failing.

My amp is an older (1988) Adcom GFA-545 (100W/ch) and I'm looking to spend roughly $1k, but I have some latitude. After poking through recommendations in the archive, the list under consideration is:

PSB T45/T55/T65
Paradigm Monitor 7/9/11
Monitor Audio BR6/RS6/RS8
Axiom m50/m60/m80

Somebody also recommended Definitive BP7006. I'm a little skeptical on that, since one that I actually heard sounded awful, but I also suspect it was damaged and the EQ was tweaked beyond all reason.

Here are my questions:


1. Is there anything already on this list that really doesn't belong?

2. Is there something else I should check out?

3. The Axioms create sort of a problem for evaluating. I plan to listen to everything else first. How should I go about deciding whether Axiom is worth a try? Right now I'm thinking of posting my reactions to the other contestants in hopes that they will have some relevance to the decision.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 4738
Registered: Feb-05
Of that list I would recommend listening to the Paradigm Monitor 9 v5, the PSB T55, and the Monitor Audio RS6. I would scratch the Axioms, they just aren't that good a speaker. Remember there are a bunch of other great speakers out there, go out and listen. BTW I used to have the GFA 555 back in '89 I think.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 4739
Registered: Feb-05
If you don't need a speaker to be real loud you may also want to consider the Rega R3...not to everyone's liking but a very good speaker that excels at jazz and classical. Will play old school R&B very well also. Hip hop and the likes...probably not.
 

Silver Member
Username: Rysa3

Houston, Texas

Post Number: 158
Registered: Nov-06
I was looking through the audiogon classifieds and saw two recent listings that I might favor over your considerations;

1. Vienna Acoustics Haydn Grand Cherry ( 939 used)

2. Proac response 1S ( about 1100) used.

Good luck!
 

Gold Member
Username: Nuck

Post Number: 7285
Registered: Dec-04
What is the source of your music, Alex?
Just as important as the other pieces.
 

New member
Username: Tin_ear

Post Number: 2
Registered: May-07
Preamp is Adcom GTP-500, sources are mostly a mid-range Phillips CD burner (used for some live recording), a Panasonic hard drive/DVD recorder, and vinyl once in a while from an old Dual turntable with a less-old Shure something-or-other cartridge.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Dmitchell

Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 90
Registered: Feb-07
I recently auditioned some Totem Arros and Rain Makers. If I was in a position to purchase new speakers it would be one of these two.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 4740
Registered: Feb-05
Paradigm and PSB are the most forgiving speakers mentioned so far relative to your sources. I would stick with them.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Josh784

Post Number: 57
Registered: Mar-07
Art, have you heard any Axiom speakers?

I used to own a pair, and they were great.
 

Gold Member
Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon USA

Post Number: 4742
Registered: Feb-05
Ofcourse I've heard them Josh, I don't offer opinions on things that I haven't heard unless I qualify it so. And I will stick with my opinion that they are a poor sounding speaker. To each his own.
 

Silver Member
Username: Gavdawg

Upstate, New York

Post Number: 684
Registered: Nov-06
Didn't you say they were quite bright? I purchased the M22 back when I was trying to decide on the magnepans, or go internet direct and get a nice speaker.

The m22 was overly bright and had (to my ears) a hard sounding midrange.

I also tried the Ascend Acoustics speakers, and those were terrible. Flat, lifeless, and dull. Hopefully the new ones in development will be better, they can't possibly be any worse.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Josh784

Post Number: 58
Registered: Mar-07
The Axioms are a bright speaker, but work well in the right environment. I think there are many superior speakers, but Axiom offers pretty good value for money.

I've read a lot of posts by people who don't like them at all, and equally as many by those who think they're quite good. Must be that you either love 'em or hate 'em.

Of the ID companies, I'd be much more interested in av123's products at this point than Axiom's. Unfortunately I haven't heard any of them, but I'd love to hear their Strata Minis.
 

Silver Member
Username: Gavdawg

Upstate, New York

Post Number: 689
Registered: Nov-06
I think that TW has (or at least has heard) a pair of Stratas, and he says that they are MartinLogan / Maggie killers.

If it isn't him, I know someone here has. But for some reason I think it was him.
 

New member
Username: Tin_ear

Post Number: 3
Registered: May-07
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I at least did some more homework on the ones I won't get a chance to audition.
 

New member
Username: Tin_ear

Post Number: 4
Registered: May-07
After hours of tying up listening rooms, I went with the MA RS6. I liked the RS8 a little better, but not enough for the price difference. I thought the mid-range on the PSBs was mushy compared to the highs and lows and the Paradigms didn't excite me either. Other stuff I heard isn't even worth mentioning.

Based on what I've read here and elsewhere, I would like to have heard the Totems, but not enough to wait for them.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Davidrm

Post Number: 12
Registered: Apr-07
As some of you know, I own a pair of Axiom M60's. I bought them used on the cheap. I do not like them very much. Granted, my cables and interconnect are not the best. The Rega is more neutral to maybe warm, but that does not help the axioms. I suppose it depends on the person and on the system. They are bright. They do not play classical music very well IMHO. They play some jazz okay, but still not to my liking. I think they might be good for a home theater set-up.

Good Luck.

David
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