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New member Username: ConextionsPost Number: 1 Registered: Jan-06 | hello all. I am new to the home audio world, been into car audio way too long and it is finally time to upgrade. i am looking into speaker brands that would suit my musical tastes. I am looking for speakers mainly for music listening only, my favorite band is the grateful dead so i would need something that would excel in dynamics and seperation and also set a realistic soundstage. If you guys could give me some suggestions so i could start researching greatly appreciated........ |
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Gold Member Username: NuckParkhill, Ontario Canada Post Number: 1012 Registered: Dec-04 | Hi James. First, the layout. Are you in an apatment or house? What are your volume expectations? Do you wander to CSNY as well? How much bass do you like? How big is your listening area? Are you shopping from scratch, and how does the budget look? Do you have a cd player presently? What shops do you have access to? Have you looked into any gear yet? |
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Gold Member Username: Project6Post Number: 4777 Registered: Dec-03 | VEry valid questions Nuck James, It will help us out if you can give as a few insights by answering Nuck's inquiry. |
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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 7130 Registered: May-04 | DOH!!!! All that and we still don't have any idea how much cash the guy has to spend. " ... something that would excel in dynamics and seperation and also set a realistic soundstage" starts at about $50,000. And we don't even know if he has an amplifier yet. Sheesh! |
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New member Username: ConextionsPost Number: 2 Registered: Jan-06 | layout is basement rec room in house about 28 x 30, i do watch movies from time to time, bass is IMPORTANT want realistic sounding bass guitar, not into hip hop digital bass. i am also shopping from sratch all i have in house now grandmothers old no-brand speakers hooked up to a sony reciever and dvd player. i have finished my car audio mobile dream and am now looking into doing the same with the house that i just moved into. price range is anywhere from 10 - 15 thousand maybe more if it is worth it. i am starting from scratch so suggestions on where to start and components needed for a quality system would be appreciated. i have been looking into emma speakers and mcintosh products but nothing serious. i dont have any "brand" favorites if that helps any pointers gladly appreciated this is my first time in home audio and everyone says it is alot different from car audio.............so help me out!!!! |
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New member Username: MrbeefyPost Number: 7 Registered: Jan-06 | Arcam has some very nice CD players; the FMJ I got is absolutely amazing. It looks to fit your budget too. |
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Bronze Member Username: DavidpaPortland, Oregon US Post Number: 97 Registered: Nov-05 | You have many choices at your price range, so if possible take a serious look at bryston 7B SST mono blocks, or 14B SST for amplification, with bryston you cannot go wrong. Also if possible try to demo aerial acoustics for speakers, as I just recently purchased a pair of the 9s and matched with the Bryston 14B SST and couldnt be happier. Also, after demoing many speakers, my choice was made for this combo after hearing the Dead Live on DVD at one of my demo sessions, what I have to say would not do these speakers justice, so if possible to find a dealer and demo, I highly recommend. Too many variables to my tastes compared to others to state how good these speakers are, so Ill just simplify it and say "complete" and more than worth the time and money. www.aerialacoustics.com for your info. Good luck, and have fun. |
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New member Username: ConextionsPost Number: 3 Registered: Jan-06 | thank you for the suggestions..... time to research |
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Gold Member Username: Frank_abelaBerkshire UK Post Number: 1140 Registered: Sep-04 | With that kind of financial outlay, the thing to do is to find yourself a well regarded local dealer to advise you. Although you'll be paying a premium for the service, you'll learn a lot and get a better solution. For example, I see you talking about music and wanting to hear a bass guitar sound right but you almost dismiss watching movies. With $10k to spend you may be better off looking at a purely 2-channel solution that can also play DVD's in stereo. You're almost definitely (but not certainly) looking at a dedicated CD player for music reproduction. The brand new Rega Apollo retails for under $900 here in the UK and is flying off the shelves due to its superb performance for example. It's best to find at least two dealers who deal in stuff like McIntosh, Krell, Naim, Arcam, Cyrus, Musical Fidelity, Creek, EPOS, Dynaudio, Focal JmLab, Totem. This way you'll get different approaches to music reproduction and you can make a more appropriate assessment to suit your musical tastes. The dealers should offer demonstration facilities. These should be single speaker demo rooms where they setup the kit you are considering and use just one pair of speakers in the room at any one time. Multiple speakers in a room have an effect on each other, whether or not they're wired up to anything. Some dealers also offer the opportunity to listen to kit at home, allowing you to hear the system you intend to buy in situ. Regards, Frank. |
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Silver Member Username: LovegasolineNYC Post Number: 113 Registered: Jul-05 | Bring this diagram into the audio store and tell the salesman -with a straight face - you'd like to reproduce it: http://dozin.com/wallofsound/index.html Some mixed stuff on Dead audio: For a while, the Dead were using McIntosh 2300 amps, you can find it here: http://www.berners.ch/McIntosh/en/Frame_McIntosh.htm Some more Dead amp stuff lore: http://dozin.com/godzilla/amp.htm Stuff of interest if nothing else... |
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Silver Member Username: Stu_pittNYC, NY Post Number: 832 Registered: May-05 | This isn't a recommendation. Spending that much money, you need to go to a hi-fi shop and listen to what they have for yourself. But If I had $10-$15K to spend on a system, here's what I'd get - McIntosh MA 2275 tube integrated amp http://mcintoshlabs.com/mcprod/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=17&cat=Integrated+Ampl ifiers&prodid=1092&product=MA2275 or MA 6900 integrated amp (if you don't like tubes) http://mcintoshlabs.com/mcprod/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=17&cat=Integrated+Ampl ifiers&prodid=1018&product=MA6900 McIntosh MCD 205 cd player http://mcintoshlabs.com/mcprod/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=19&cat=Sources&prodid= 1045&product=MCD205 Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus speakers http://www.sumikoaudio.net/sonus/prod_grandpiano_domus.htm I'd also get a turntable - VPI Scout http://www.amusicdirect.com/products/detail.asp?sku=AVPISCOUTSIG One of these days... |
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Bronze Member Username: DionPost Number: 13 Registered: Feb-05 | That's all cool stuff but when I think of $2k+ turntables I think of this. http://www.welltemperedlab.com/frameset2.html Yep, one of these days. |
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Silver Member Username: Stu_pittNYC, NY Post Number: 833 Registered: May-05 | I haven't heard nor heard of well tempered before. It looks pretty interesting. The MA 2275/Grand Piano/VPI combo is by far the best sounding set up I've ever heard under lottery jackpot amounts. Not to mention that it all looks pretty cool too. I'm still waiting to hear this one - http://www.sumikoaudio.net/sme/prod_model30.htm |
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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 7151 Registered: May-04 | The original Well Tempered table was a wake up call for many manufacturers at a time when turntables were going out of fashion (late 1980's). At the time the Well Tempered arm was a novel idea. It represented an incredibly inexpensive way to eliminate many of the problems of the then current crop of tonearms. As it turned out, the arm had some problems that those same contemporaries had eliminated many years before. The main bearing is still one of the quietest on the market in its price range. Back in 1989 it was a bit unnerving how quiet it was. But it never had the bass response or top end performance of the best tables. As materials have progressed the Well Tempered design has fallen out of favor mostly due to its complete lack of suspension and difficulty mating other arms. At the price range most of the competition has a better method of isolating the table from both internal and external forces and/or better tonearm adaptability. While the Well Tempered is still a good basic design, I don't think its competitive with the some of the better designs in and around its price range. |
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