How do unauthorized dealers get their stock?

 

anonymousII
Unregistered guest
One thing I have always wondered about in my 30 plus years of this hobby is just how all the unauthorized, mail order dealers get their stock. They are able to sell at incredibly low prices[ie. Yamaha 2500 less than $650.00]which the authorized dealers can't come close to matching. Is is possible that some of this stuff is hot or is stolen right off the boat or plane and becomes kind of a black market situation. No one has ever been able to tell me just how this happens. If you have some knowledge about this I'd love to hear it.
 

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Username: Devils_advocate

Post Number: 295
Registered: Jul-05
I doubt it is stolen; my guess would be wholesalers with some excess stock.
 

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Username: Jan_b_vigne

Dallas, TX

Post Number: 5545
Registered: May-04


Yes, the product is called grey market. It can be diverted from sales in another country or from a dealer who is closing down shop. An unscrupulous distributor can create grey market. How product becomes grey market has vexed audio companies for decades.


 

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Username: Devils_advocate

Post Number: 302
Registered: Jul-05
As far as the wholesaler (the manufacturer too) is concerned, it is about the bottom line. They aren't going to sit on excess inventory. Depending on the arrangements they have with retailers, they may also get returned merchandise which can also be sold through these off price retailers. Think of it as something like the Ross or TJMaxx (if you have those where you are from) of the audio world.
 

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Username: Jan_b_vigne

Dallas, TX

Post Number: 5550
Registered: May-04


DA - That depends a lot on the company. Companies that tend to hold fast to the number of authorized dealers in one area or internet sales tend not to mess with their good dealerships. Of course, this is usually restriced to high end compnaies and products such as Yamaha and Denon can still find their way into unauthorized retail outlets.


 

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Username: Devils_advocate

Post Number: 306
Registered: Jul-05
True enough. There are plenty of manufacturers that value their dealers, as they are an intricate part of the distribution network. But as you say, these aren't the type that end up in an unauthorized retailers hands.
 

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Username: Paul_ohstbucks

Post Number: 2345
Registered: Jan-05
The reputable 'non' authorized dealers buy directly from the manufacturers. Nothing they are doing is shady or unscrupulous. There will always be someone out there with a scam, but the big operators are all legit.

They offer a service for a price. For those willing to 'self insure' their components by not purchasing a manufacturers warranty, it's a great service to have available. Not everyone thinks a manufacturers warranty is worth adding an extra 30% to the purchase price.

Not all manufacturers will use that route to move product. That's why some brand names are never found on sites like pricegrabber.com.
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